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HawkTheHusky1902 said:
Ok, fair enough. I just use a no-exception adblocker though.
Two things i have no idea why people do a lot:
-use Chrome (memory hog, spyware, and overall just a piece of crap)
-dont use adblockers (even though most are free and there sre no drawbacks to using them, and people just wait out ads on Youtube, etc.)
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uMatrix lets me choose what loads and it blacklists everything until you tell it not too.

Here's MacRumors. Third party sites are below, red is blocked, green is approved.

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There's nothing to show below that because loading of other stuff is dependant on the stuff not approved to load first. So, I never see any of this stuff.

BTW, I'm using Vivaldi. I like/prefer browsers that allow me to customize things my way. I'm in front of a computer pretty much for 16+ hours a day. Vivaldi is chrome based, but has the addons I mentioned earlier.
 
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eyoungren said:
uMatrix lets me choose what loads and it blacklists everything until you tell it not too.

Here's MacRumors. Third party sites are below, red is blocked, green is approved.

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There's nothing to show below that because loading of other stuff is depended on the stuff not approved to load first. So, I never see any of this stuff.
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I'll check it out, thanks
 
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eyoungren said:
uMatrix lets me choose what loads and it blacklists everything until you tell it not too.

Here's MacRumors. Third party sites are below, red is blocked, green is approved.

View attachment 2240339

There's nothing to show below that because loading of other stuff is dependant on the stuff not approved to load first. So, I never see any of this stuff.

BTW, I'm using Vivaldi. I like/prefer browsers that allow me to customize things my way. I'm in front of a computer pretty much for 16+ hours a day. Vivaldi is chrome based, but has the addons I mentioned earlier.
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I use Opera One. Just instaalled it to see if i like it. Its been ok so far. Usually use Firefox because of the privacy and add-ons. Nice to be able to chat with family via Whatsapp Desktop while browsing.
 
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HawkTheHusky1902 said:
What browser do you think is best for MacOS? Heard good things about Vivaldi. What abiut Edge? Only mucrisift software thst doesnt seem completely off-putting-
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I'm using Vivaldi because it's from the original developer of Opera and it allows me to customize it. It keeps to the original vision of Opera. I can't really recommend anything outside of that because I tend to stick with one browser for years before something happens and then I search for a new one. What I do like is that so far Vivaldi has supported me. I'm typing this on a 2009 MacPro running Mojave and it's one of the youngest Macs I have.

Yet Vivaldi had an update for me today.

I do use Edge, but primarily because it's Chrome and for specific sites that I need/want to access without uMatrix being on. Safari is a last resort and anything else I ditched a while back.
 
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eyoungren said:
I'm using Vivaldi because it's from the original developer of Opera and it allows me to customize it. It keeps to the original vision of Opera. I can't really recommend anything outside of that because I tend to stick with one browser for years before something happens and then I search for a new one. What I do like is that so far Vivaldi has supported me. I'm typing this on a 2009 MacPro running Mojave and it's one of the youngest Macs I have.

Yet Vivaldi had an update for me today.

I do use Edge, but primarily because it's Chrome and for specific sites that I need/want to access without uMatrix being on. Safari is a last resort and anything else I ditched a while back.
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Nah, im rocking a mid 2010 MBP i5 8gb ram with High Sierra as my only/daily driver:cool:
 
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eyoungren said:
I'm using Vivaldi because it's from the original developer of Opera and it allows me to customize it. It keeps to the original vision of Opera. I can't really recommend anything outside of that because I tend to stick with one browser for years before something happens and then I search for a new one. What I do like is that so far Vivaldi has supported me. I'm typing this on a 2009 MacPro running Mojave and it's one of the youngest Macs I have.

Yet Vivaldi had an update for me today.

I do use Edge, but primarily because it's Chrome and for specific sites that I need/want to access without uMatrix being on. Safari is a last resort and anything else I ditched a while back.
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What do you think about Opera One?
 
eyoungren said:
I haven't really looked at it. Opera used to be the browser I used for years on PowerPC, but they dropped support at some point, things got bad and so I moved on.

I do use Opera on my iPhones/iPad. But I'm waiting for Vivaldi to release for iOS.
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What about Orion or Arc? I guess we cant run them 'cause we have 10.13 and 10.14...
Anyway, im going to bed now, its late here in Europe:) Good night!
 
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I wonder if you could draw a line in the sand for consumer software and say, if you have over 100 million users, or $10bln in annual profits, communications apps you develop/maintain should have interoperable APIs.

I know that’s over simplistic, but it’s just an idle musing really. Something like that could be kinda beneficial in many cases.
 
If this is meant to be humorous, it is. On the other hand if a serious statement, it's rather sad. By refusing to communicate via text with one's family & friends due to them opting for a differing platform simply comes across as being little more than puerile...

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I love iMessage and hate antiquated SMS. That said, doesn’t anyone like Skype? I keep Skype on my phone in case some android/pc-using contact wants to connect over IM and/or video/voice call. (I won’t install WhatsApp; I don’t allow meta apps on my phone.)
 
maflynn said:
I'm solidly behind Apply in not supporting RCS. I see no real upsides and only downsides. This only benefits Google, and why help a competitor.
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You are right…why support a standard that helps your users communicate with other people without resorting to low quality MMS. You act like Apple is the hero in shinny armor and Google is the villain. I have news for you..they are both the villain. If Apple cares about user experience beyond profit they would support something alongside iMessage to make the experience uniform for everyone. But hey, why apply critical thinking to problems when everyone can just fill up on more Apple branded Kool-Aid.
 
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What you are really saying is that you expect messaging apps (iMessage specifically) to work like a phone call works, in a standardized manner across devices of any manufacturer.

Agreed. And this is exactly what regulatory bodies should be making sure of (as in the EU).

But the truth is iMessage is an closed, proprietary-standard App, much like WhatsApp, Telegram, and many others. But all those Apps are available across a wide range of devices, while iMessage is only avaialble for Apple devices....

Wouldn't it be easier to make that proprietary-standard App available to other users? Or even better, building the default messaging app in your OS around open standards like RCS? (The way the Phone app works, the way the SMS app worked, the Calendar App, the browser of your choice, the mail app of your choice, etc..)
 
eyoungren said:
My daughter and her 10th grade high school group of friends who are iPhone/Android don't have your problem either.
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My daughter and her 6th grade middle school friends don’t have these feelings either.

BUT we had to get her an iPhone because her iPod touch couldn’t text with her android classmates at all. Bizarre limitation, and one I think is pretty squarely Apple’s fault—not even giving the option of green bubbles.
 
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thefourthpope said:
BUT we had to get her an iPhone because her iPod touch couldn’t text with her android classmates at all. Bizarre limitation, and one I think is pretty squarely Apple’s fault—not even giving the option of green bubbles.
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You need a carrier plan with a phone number in order to send SMS. That's not a limitation of Apple. The iPod just doesn't do that. You don't need a phone number to use iMessage with other iPhones. It just requires an Apple account.
 
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iJest said:
You need a carrier plan with a phone number in order to send SMS. That's not a limitation of Apple. The iPod just doesn't do that. You don't need a phone number to use iMessage with other iPhones. It just requires an Apple account.
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So we should think of iMessages as a proprietary app, like WhatsApp? Guess I never put that together. I swear I text with android from my iPad but there’s no carrier plan there (I’ll have to check later)

We ended up buying her an iPhone SE just to be able to text with her friend group. Frustrated the hell out of me. The one thing the iPod couldn’t do.
 
thefourthpope said:
So we should think of iMessages as a proprietary app, like WhatsApp? Guess I never put that together. I swear I text with android from my iPad but there’s no carrier plan there (I’ll have to check later)
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To use iMessage and text other iPhones you just need an Apple ID and a WiFi connection. It is Apple's proprietary messaging system.

thefourthpope said:
We ended up buying her an iPhone SE just to be able to text with her friend group. Frustrated the hell out of me. The one thing the iPod couldn’t do.
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That's a great phone, though. It is frustrating, but you have to have a phone number to use SMS. That's actually the frustrating thing about SMS, not iMessage. If all her friends had iPhones then it wouldn't matter.
 
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