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Green Button - Maximize, Not Full Screen
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I have, and yes, I might fail to find out hidden powerful features in finder. However, taking about index, I don't think Finder index is great for use, plus the speed is really slow. I don't want to discuss about external drive because it is not fair to compare it with internal drive.
Then, Listary can let users use at most two mouse clicks to go to current working folder, and don't even need users to do this, in most cases. In finder, I need to add a tag, and go back here, click the tag, wait until it updates, and select the folder i have tagged.
Well, arguing software function difference does not make any sense, although mac index speed is so slow, which I want to point out.
Yes, if I want to use a Windows OS, I can either install VM or install Windows side by side using bootcamp. The reason I still insist on using Mac is because several applications in mac works astonishingly great than under Windows, and I can process my iTunes library faster than before when using it under Windows. Mac has their own unique advantage which Windows may never reach, while Windows also has its own. This is my concept to use OS and software. I don't really care where they are. I want to maximise its capability.
I'm with the OP on this one. I've been using a software called SizeUp to meet my needs so far. It works on Yosemite.
I see we are running in circles here, so I'm ending the discussion on my part. My Finder index works just fine, I have nothing to complain about. I've just tested my suggestion with the tags and sidebar and it works immediately. But I agree with the conclusion, different solutions exist for different people.
By the way, I don't want to be blunt again, but could you stop using these bright colours in your posts? It is extremely annoying.
I will also stop discussing this in my side as well.
Talking about colour, I do consider members don't really like it. So I try not to use too bright colour.
I often add font colour in other forums, but thanks for your advice, I will consider not doing that.
Its not just one option is it? There are a million people out there that want Apple to add some option to preferences. If they implement them it becomes a mess. Why is your option suggestion more important than anyone elses?
Because it's blatantly obvious that the current implementation of the green button is ridiculous and needs fixing. This isn't really up for debate, it used to work 'ok' with its non-predictable 'enlarge' functionality, but now its forcing us to work in a tablet environment with what should be a desktop.
And sorry, NO, it is just one option; one that needs fixing.
Furthermore, why do you (and many others in this thread) conveniently ignore the fact that they not only did Apple enforce the tablet view without options but also CLOSED the API for 3rd party developers to adjust the functionality afterwards? If 3rd party apps were capable of modifying it, you would have ZERO reason to complain about there being 'too many options' on an operating system that already lacks option, LMAO. Please explain the bolded though.
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If you don't like it, just double click the title bar and you get the old zoom behaviour. Are you really carrying on like this over an extra click?
Also, When you fullscreen an app it gets its own desktop, you don't need to exit out of fullscreen like you've been doing, you just three finger swipe back to the original desktop. Its not our fault if you can't work out to use a feature.
Yes, life is hard when you want more settings in a settings app
As I mentioned in my earlier post, fullscreen mode is genuinely useful, especially for smaller-screen Macs. Much of what Apple sells are laptops with smaller screens.
However, I agree that there should be a setting to revert the default behavior of the green button to its pre-Yosemite state, especially for larger screens. The new title bar double-click option is a step in the right direction, at least, and the Option-click to change the behavior of the green button is still there in 10.11.
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On a more related note, you do know/use this option under 'Dock' in preferences?
No i didn't know that. Ive been looking for that setting off & on for a while, without success
Thanks so much for pointing the right direction.
Doesn't work the same for all apps. Please stop ignoring things that have already been pointed out.
YES.
I want things SIMPLE, you know, the way apple intends things to be.
Why, for the love of god, do you keep assuming everyone should work the way YOU do? I DO NOT use a trackpad and neither do MANY people on desktops or laptops (all my coworkers who use a laptop use a mouse). I use a mouse. And even if I had a trackpad, WHY should I have to swipe back and forth all the time or put up with that ridiculously slow animation of apps going into full screen and out?
Apple has been heavily integrating touchpad gestures into OS X for three or four years now. It's almost like this is a surprise for you?
You can also change desktop using Option and the left or right arrows.
If you don't like the animation you can speed it up or remove it altogether, BUT if you do this you might not have anything to complain about...
Doesn't change anything, I still have NO desire to work in full screen mode when I am constantly switching between photoshop, illustrator, indesign, chrome, transmit, outlook, finder and other apps. So how does being forced into an isolated full screen app supposed to help people that do actual WORK on the computer?
Just use alt-tab or one of the other ten solutions which have been posted but ignored by yourself.
Or better yet (for those around you), install Mavericks or Windows 8/10.
You're not being forced into fullscreen mode, and you don't have to use it if you don't want to. Option-click on the green button or manually resize the window instead.
Edit: For me, switching between fullscreen apps is fluid and it really helps on smaller screens. On my 27" iMac, I rarely use it because screen space isn't as much of a concern. So it helps more in some cases than others, and your usage case may be one of the others, which is fine.
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Oh, boy, here we go. That moment when someone says "no, it's not open for debate, it's objectively as I say it is". Um, no it's not. And this is the perfect example - for me, it didn't use to work 'ok' - as you yourself said it was non-predictable and I never used it, NOW it works the way I want it to. I love the full screen mode, even on my 27" iMac. It's not about space, it's a bout the app being distraction-free. And now they added split view which makes it even better - in fact, I have El Cap on both my iMac and my MacBook and I use the split view to drag things from Safari to Evernote on my iMac more than on MacBook's smaller screen.
As for why they didn't add the option to change it, others have already explained it - if they added everyone's desired option, it would make a total mess out of the System Preferences app. But, ok, I guess they could've added that one little option to change the green button. They didn't - probably because 1. it already has the old functionality with double-clicking the title bar, 2. most people like how it works and it's not really that important.
I have several of personal issues with OS X, only I don't make a big deal about them. For example, I hate it how the Favourite Bookmarks address bar drop-down in Safari doesn't work in a new tab while we're in the Top Sites screen, so I can't use both. It's driving me nuts and I even sent my feedback to Apple. And they did NOTHING! I mean, come on people, why aren't you guys talking about this instead, it's much more important than this green button nonsense, right? I mean, objectively it is - it's not open for debate!
Finally, as for that 'Apple is iOS-ifying OS X" stuff. That's just silly. Apple is doing its best to provide the best experience for every device, unlike Microsoft who tried to make it the same for everyone. Apple is adding and improving features that are unique to the Mac - like the new, even better Mission Control. They didn't throw out MC to make it look like the iOS app switcher, they made it better and even more "Mac" like. But, of course, people see just what they want to see - Apple tweaked one little button and there it is: they're dumbing down the OS to make it look like iOS. No they're not, they're making them work well side by side, while retaining what makes them unique.
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So you want OS X to behave like Windows... I have a solution for you.
www.microsoft.com
Me, I like the way Apple used the green button up to Mountain Lion. However I can get that by double clicking the title bar, so I'm happy. I have a 2880 by 1800 display that I use in full resolution so maximising windows is unnecessary. I can have multiple windows open and just click between them.
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Maybe he doesn't want 10 solutions. Or better yet: 10 failed solutions.
We want just 1. A simple option. Tiny simple option to change the green button behaviour.
Not an OS from scratch. Not changing to microsoft either, no other crazy solution. Just this little choice
Maybe he doesn't want 10 solutions. Or better yet: 10 failed solutions.
We want just 1. A simple option. Tiny simple option to change the green button behaviour.
Not an OS from scratch. Not changing to microsoft either, no other crazy solution. Just this little choice
And you won't get it and it's not really a big deal because everyone has that one little thing they would want to see in a product, hardware or software, that just isn't there. At least you have easy to use alternatives, like double-clicking the title bar (yeah, I know, it's a whole click more) but if you still don't like it, you'll just have to deal with it and enjoy everything else OS X has to offer. No, Apple is not making and iPad out of your Mac and no, there is no big conspiracy, they just solved it the way you don't like. It happens. There. Done.
Yes i know, and i love everything else about OSX, and i hate everything on windows except the way it handles "maximize"
. But you know that feeling "just this little thing and it's perfect!".Well, to be honest this doesn't affect me a whole lot. I use my mac just for entertainment and almost no work. So i usually don't have that much windows all over the place, but yeah... it would still be a nice feature
Yes i know, and i love everything else about OSX, and i hate everything on windows except the way it handles "maximize"
Well, to be honest this doesn't affect me a whole lot. I use my mac just for entertainment and almost no work. So i usually don't have that much windows all over the place, but yeah... it would still be a nice feature
Well, we're in agreement then
Ok but your OP states you want the old functionality of the green button. Alt+Green button is the old functionality.
OP should be rephrased then to be very clear that you want it to maximize like Windows. It has never done this for as long as I've used OS X (Lion). And that originally annoyed me to all get out just like you. However their current option (fullscreen) is what I prefer now. (Personal opinion coming) I'm unsure how anyone doesn't feel that it is almost the same considering cmd-tab is a quick flip between apps.
But that is beside the point. Adding an option for those like you who want it to maximize the window isn't a big deal. Should be a simple addition for Apple. How you get them to do it, I'm unsure. But I'm all for options. No one size fits all.
He prefers the old Zoom way of doing things but is still complaining about having to Option click the green button or double click the title bar.
I think you might need to calm down and stop making assumptions. Plenty of people that do "actual work" on their computer do so in one app at a time, and they would like to have as much space for their content as possible. It's easy enough to use the trackpad to switch between screens, but as you have said, you don't use one. In which case there are third party apps available to provide you with at least some of the functionality you desire. Seeing as how this appears to affect you at such a deep level, however, maybe you should consider switching to Windows- which manages full-screen apps the way you seem to like.
Either way, insulting the way other people use their computers because you can't get exactly what you want in exactly the way you want it does you absolutely no good. Why complain about Apple making assumptions about the way you use your computer when you're doing exactly the same thing? Why do you expect other people to care about something that doesn't affect them? I'm sorry that you can't use your computer in exactly the way you'd like at this moment, but nobody on this forum can help you with that. Apple isn't making the change you want at this moment, so you'll have to find a way to live with it, at least for now.
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