I also have the exact same issue. Including trying this from a Leopard machine. Doesn't appear to be a permissions thing as I can create files and directories there no problem. Anyone?
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I also have the exact same issue. Including trying this from a Leopard machine. Doesn't appear to be a permissions thing as I can create files and directories there no problem. Anyone?
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Okay, I'm a bit sleeping this morning, but are you saying that we don't need to screw around with hacking the disk in any way?
I've got my iBook which is 1.33ghz with 1.5gig of ram already installed with 10.5, works great. I want to install 10.5 on my GF's iBook 800mhz with 1.128meg ram, 30gig hd.
Now from what I'm reading (and it's hurting my head a little this morning), I should put one of my laptops in target mode and the other as boot drive, and put the 10.5 disk in and install?
I'm assuming we want to load the 800mhz drive on to the 1.33ghz computer via firewire cable (which I have) so it tricks the drive into thinking it's on a fast computer. I'd would have the 10.5 disk on the 1.33 install on to the 800mhz drive which is networked via firewire right?
In theory it should install on to this new drive via the 1.33 computer and when all is done, disconnect and reboot 800mhz and hope 10.5 is there?
Did I make any sense, or did my speeder bike slam into the big ol tree too hard this morning?
Okay, I'm a bit sleeping this morning, but are you saying that we don't need to screw around with hacking the disk in any way?
I've got my iBook which is 1.33ghz with 1.5gig of ram already installed with 10.5, works great. I want to install 10.5 on my GF's iBook 800mhz with 1.128meg ram, 30gig hd.
Now from what I'm reading (and it's hurting my head a little this morning), I should put one of my laptops in target mode and the other as boot drive, and put the 10.5 disk in and install?
I'm assuming we want to load the 800mhz drive on to the 1.33ghz computer via firewire cable (which I have) so it tricks the drive into thinking it's on a fast computer. I'd would have the 10.5 disk on the 1.33 install on to the 800mhz drive which is networked via firewire right?
In theory it should install on to this new drive via the 1.33 computer and when all is done, disconnect and reboot 800mhz and hope 10.5 is there?
Did I make any sense, or did my speeder bike slam into the big ol tree too hard this morning?
This is what I did to install Leopard on a G4 iMac 800MHz. Works fine (well apart from a slight graphics bug with display sleep) but the install process is easy. You won't need to hope 10.5 is on the drive you connected in firewire target disk mode - if that's the drive you install Leopard to, it'll be there when you boot the computer normally (not in target mode), and it should start up the computer in Leopard
This is what I did to install Leopard on a G4 iMac 800MHz. Works fine (well apart from a slight graphics bug with display sleep) but the install process is easy. You won't need to hope 10.5 is on the drive you connected in firewire target disk mode - if that's the drive you install Leopard to, it'll be there when you boot the computer normally (not in target mode), and it should start up the computer in Leopard
Cool, the Emperor will be pleased
Now I just have to wait for her to come back from a vacation in New Zealand so I can grab her laptop, firewire it to mine, and commence the installation process and hope for the best
I hope there aren't any weird graphic problems on the iBook 800mhz, but I'll be sure to mention any strange happenings if they occur.
Thanks Tallyho
On the iMac it's only when you put the system to sleep and try to wake it up - I get rainbow coloured vertical lines and have to reboot (either by trying command-control-eject or by pressing the power button till it shuts down). Solution (for the moment)=shut down not sleep. As the system boots much quicker on Leopard than it used to on 10.3 (was running Panther before) that's not a problem.
You should read up on Leopard install options for putting 10.5 on the 800MHz iBook. I did an erase and install (having earlier cloned the existing Panther installation using SuperDuper so I could restore if necessary; can also get hold of old files etc, and can even run the migration wizard from it if that's helpful). You might be OK with Archive and Install or Upgrade though!
UPDATE:
I posted one page ago about loading Leopard on a DA 533 with 1.4 Ghz upgrade. I've had tons of trouble. The grey startup screen and circling bars screen never went away after hours, so I redid the whole process and burned a new disc. I was careful to only throw away two [EDIT: three] things:
1. All foreign language packages (but I kept Asian language support for no particular reason)
2. XCode tools in the folder "Optional Installs"
[EDIT: 3. Printer files]
I then swapped out the original OSInstall.mpkg with the modified one. This time Disk Utility burnt the DVD no problem. I rebooted holding down C and EVENTUALLY it booted to the installer. Here is the part where I had to pay attention. I had to make sure to hit the Options button to tell it to Archive and Install and then on the next screen I had to make sure to hit Customize and then deselect X11, Foreign Languages, and Printers. By doing this the installer finally went to the actual install process (although it still took close to an hour.)
I restarted the computer at the end of install.....and........it booted up!!!! (slowly but surely)
I was immediately hit with a software update! After that installed and restarted, I looked around. I do have the translucent menu bar. The icons look fantastic. Everything seems good from a Finder perspective. Now to do some digging around....
I posted one page ago about loading Leopard on a DA 533 with 1.4 Ghz upgrade. I've had tons of trouble. The grey startup screen and circling bars screen never went away after hours, so I redid the whole process and burned a new disc. I was careful to only throw away two [EDIT: three] things:
1. All foreign language packages (but I kept Asian language support for no particular reason)
2. XCode tools in the folder "Optional Installs"
[EDIT: 3. Printer files]
I then swapped out the original OSInstall.mpkg with the modified one. This time Disk Utility burnt the DVD no problem. I rebooted holding down C and EVENTUALLY it booted to the installer. Here is the part where I had to pay attention. I had to make sure to hit the Options button to tell it to Archive and Install and then on the next screen I had to make sure to hit Customize and then deselect X11, Foreign Languages, and Printers. By doing this the installer finally went to the actual install process (although it still took close to an hour.)
I restarted the computer at the end of install.....and........it booted up!!!! (slowly but surely)
I was immediately hit with a software update! After that installed and restarted, I looked around. I do have the translucent menu bar. The icons look fantastic. Everything seems good from a Finder perspective. Now to do some digging around....
From what I recall her laptop was fairly empty and she kept a fair bit on her 4gig memory stick. But I've got an external 120gig I can connect to hers to back up anything important, then we'll go and install 10.5 and see how it goes.
Another idea
On the topic of installing Leopard on computers it doesn't allow, I have an idea to take my HD to another computer which will install leopard, install it on this HD, and then put it back in my computer with Leopard installed. I think It'll work
On the topic of installing Leopard on computers it doesn't allow, I have an idea to take my HD to another computer which will install leopard, install it on this HD, and then put it back in my computer with Leopard installed. I think It'll work
Target mode does not work on all systems.
1st thing I did on with my Sawtooth (upgraded to dual g4 500Mhz) was boot it in target mode, boot my iBook g4 1Ghz and install to the Sawtooth disk. The install went fine however the Sawtooth rebooted with the Kernel Panic and the "unable to find driver for this platform PowerMac3,1" msg.
Just an FYI. I am going to try to boot from the modified install DVD however I get the same msg I would say that there are just no drivers for some systems.
1st thing I did on with my Sawtooth (upgraded to dual g4 500Mhz) was boot it in target mode, boot my iBook g4 1Ghz and install to the Sawtooth disk. The install went fine however the Sawtooth rebooted with the Kernel Panic and the "unable to find driver for this platform PowerMac3,1" msg.
Just an FYI. I am going to try to boot from the modified install DVD however I get the same msg I would say that there are just no drivers for some systems.
i have learned a few things about installing Leopard
here is 2 options
1. buy a cpu upgrade (for sawtooth to Quicksilver) to make it 867mhz or above. cause since the Machines ID's of those systems are not blocked. the only thing that block these said systems is the CPU speed check and a CPU upgrade will get around it.
2. Mod the installer if you dont want to buy a CPU upgrade
i also found out that my GF2MX card works flawlessly , Deep sleep and wake up with no issues, monitor sleep and wake up with no issues.
over at theMacelite.com they are trying out flashed cards, mostly the flashed Geforce cards (6200 - 7800 so far) cause the boot up freeze which can last 2 - 6 minutes and will continue to boot. i t seems the Flashed Radeon cards are not having any issues on bootup.
it seems like Apple has put a block , maybe a driver issue, or a bug. who knows yet, its to early to tell.
here is 2 options
1. buy a cpu upgrade (for sawtooth to Quicksilver) to make it 867mhz or above. cause since the Machines ID's of those systems are not blocked. the only thing that block these said systems is the CPU speed check and a CPU upgrade will get around it.
2. Mod the installer if you dont want to buy a CPU upgrade
i also found out that my GF2MX card works flawlessly , Deep sleep and wake up with no issues, monitor sleep and wake up with no issues.
over at theMacelite.com they are trying out flashed cards, mostly the flashed Geforce cards (6200 - 7800 so far) cause the boot up freeze which can last 2 - 6 minutes and will continue to boot. i t seems the Flashed Radeon cards are not having any issues on bootup.
it seems like Apple has put a block , maybe a driver issue, or a bug. who knows yet, its to early to tell.
Thanks for informing us that the GF2MX works fine with sleep.
Looks like the GF4MX is the offending party.
Must need a new driver...
it would seem that its more of a driver issue or a bug in OS X, i hope its either the two and not Apple trying to block people from using a video card they want to use (one that is flashed and more faster) even tho the GF4MX is Apple stock
i want a 6800 GT, but the only way to get one that wont break the bank would be to buy a PC one and flash it. but it dont look to good for Macs that have then that use Leopard. if i get one i will more then likely use tiger mainly until these issues are taken care of, but i am not going to hold my breath
Hi there tallyho,
I've got the same machine as you and I did an archive + install. I've got the same sleep bug you mention (but only noticed it because I accidentally put the thing to sleep, it's usually always-on) but I have a major problem with airport ... it won't work. I can't start the process. The console.log says something like "unknown interface".
Have you got airport working with your iMac? Should I try and erase + install?
Help?!
Stu
they probably dropped support for that wifi chipset, who knows, wont know more until more people look into it. i wonder if its possible to take the airport kext from tiger and use it in Leopard somehow to see if you can get it to detect that way
Yeah. That was the unfortunate conclusion I was moving to. I wondered about dropping the .kext in. I'll have to dig out my tiger disks and track it down.
Stu
i defiantly think its worth a shot, the worse that could happen is a KP or maybe needing to reinstall Leopard. but i think its worth a shot, it might need more then just dropping in the kext file. might need to edit it somehow to change a few things so it looks like the kext it replaced ( version numbers and such).
i am not to good at things like that.
I used Carbon Copy Cloner as suggested but in the terminal it still states the following error when copying across the modfied install.mpkg:
"cp: ./OSInstall.mpkg: Read-only file system"
Have checked the privileges in the Finder so i have both read and write access but stilll get this error.
What am i doing wrong please? probably something stupid - I am supposed to be working on the mounted disk image and not the .dmg file itself aren't I?
any help greatly appreciated.
"cp: ./OSInstall.mpkg: Read-only file system"
Have checked the privileges in the Finder so i have both read and write access but stilll get this error.
What am i doing wrong please? probably something stupid - I am supposed to be working on the mounted disk image and not the .dmg file itself aren't I?
any help greatly appreciated.
did you check the file itself and not just the folder. i would try using FreeDMG, that is what i used and everything worked like a charm
Firstly, if you had read the posts in this thread you would already have your answer. The answer is to not fool with all the monkey business associated with creating a modified OSInstall.mpkg file and simply download one ready to go, as in this one:
http://www.broadbandreports.com/r0/...2c6f2be47c4b7280666aff6/NewOSInstall.mpkg.zip
Next, as to your question about visible in the finder, again it was answered before in this thread. Here it is again: download TinkerTool and open it, then under the category of "Finder" check the check box that says "Show hidden and system files." At this point all the files you need will be visible. In the installer main window, first go to System, then Installation, then Packages, then you will find the OSInstall.mpkg file in which you need to throw the old one in the trash and insert the modified one that you download above (at the right time in the process). Keep in mind that you can't burn to a disc until you throw out the printer packages, foreign language packages (both in the same directory as the OSInstall.mpkg file), and the xcode tools under the "Optional Installs" folder in the main window of the installer (is not invisible). For more details of how to take a full size installer file of 6.66 GB and turn it into a burnable file of 4.2GB refer to my earlier post or follow the following steps taken verbatim from an InsanelyMac forum posting and add the step of changing out the OSInstall.mpkg file before you burn the "burn.sparseimage" file:
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1. Mount the Original Leopard DMG (jus double click u idiot!!)
2. Open Disc Utility (under Applications -> Utilities)
3. Click on New Image (at the top u fool!!)
4. Name the image as dump (save on desktop!!)
5. Put the type as sparse image
6. Put the size as DL-DVD (8Gb), and click create
7. Mount dump.sparse
8. In disc utility, select the dump image and click the restore tab
9. Drag the mounted Mac OS X Install DVD to the Restore from field
10. Drag the mounted dump to the Restore to field (or equivalent)
11. Click Restore and wait.. (have some patience... ZEN...)
12. Once that is done, open up the dump mounted image
13. Remove the Developers Tools under Optional Installs
[NOTE: using TinkerTool makes step 14 obsolete, just go there in the Finder]
14. Use finder's Go to Folder option and navigate to /Volumes/dump/System
15. Go to Installation -> Packages
16. Proceed to remove anything that has Printer in it (u can always get from vendors)
17. Proceed to remove languages that you do not need (like french, german)
18. Verify in Disc Utility on the size of your dump (should be 4.3Gb or less)
19. Return to Disc Utility
20. Click on New Image
21. Name the image as burn (save on desktop!!)
22. Put the type as sparse image
23. Put the size as SL-DVD(4.7Gb), and click create
24. Select the burn image and click the restore tab
25. Drag the mounted dump to the Restore from field
26. Drag the mounted burn to the Restore to field (dont mix up!!!)
27. Click Restore and wait.. (have some patience... ZEN...)
[EDIT: swap OSInstall.mpkg file now by throwing first one in trash, emptying trash and then adding modified one to the same spot in the folder]
28. Once its done, burn it to DVD (in Tiger, not leopard)
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Note also that when installing, you MUST hit "Options" then Archive and Install, and also hit the "Customize" button before hitting the final "Install" button and deselect the foreign languages, the x11, and the printers. Then hit Install and it will work.