Most "haters" have never touched an iPad.
Many of these haters want one but can't afford so the just hate!
Many of these haters want one but can't afford so the just hate!
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Have you been insulted for using an iPad?
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Just because Apple dumbs down the UI aspects of their devices doesn't make "technically inclined" or "IT people" any less relevant. Someone still needs to develop the applications.. design the hardware.. engineer the "data clouds". Don't confuse "using" the technology with "creating" the technology.
Many of these haters want one but can't afford so the just hate!
If someone can't afford a $500 iPad, they probably can't afford any other modern technology either, be it a computer, a smartphone or a flatscreen TV.
Anyway, the whole "you don't like it because you can't afford it" argument is at a level of a 5th grader. I know it may shock some, but there are legitimate reasons to criticize Apple products, other than for the lack of funds.
I have talked with him before about Apple stuff and he's pretty much hung up on the price of the hardware. He said he can get a much more powerful machine for less money.
I didn't bother arguing with him as I'm sick and tired of explaining to people the differences in hardware and software between Macs and PCs. I basically told him then don't buy Apple stuff. Just leaves more for me.
+1. I've ran into this wall many times at my office. Believe me when I say I know exactly where you're coming from.
Not really insulted, but I blame that on my physical attributes. I have heard the big iPod touch stuff. I just say some lame irritating comeback like " you don't go to the beach then huh? That is just a big ass tub." People I hang around know that I have some sort of comeback for everything, so they probably keep negatives comments to themselves.
It's not always the case that someone is jealous or someone can't afford it or whatever, it's just some kind of instinctive repulsion, regardless of whether they've used it or not. Everyone has it, even the most level-headed of people.
Like how many users on this forum will instantly bad-mouth anything Microsoft related and people who like Microsoft will insult anything Apple related. Or insulting people who like particular consoles or phones, cars, political viewpoints, pretty much everything which is subject to more than one opinion.
Besides, you shouldn't bother with anyone else's opinion, because if it works for you, great, but don't waste your effort trying to convince the whole world it'll be perfect for everyone else too, because some people will legitimately find it a waste of money relative to their needs
Like how many users on this forum will instantly bad-mouth anything Microsoft related and people who like Microsoft will insult anything Apple related. Or insulting people who like particular consoles or phones, cars, political viewpoints, pretty much everything which is subject to more than one opinion.
Besides, you shouldn't bother with anyone else's opinion, because if it works for you, great, but don't waste your effort trying to convince the whole world it'll be perfect for everyone else too, because some people will legitimately find it a waste of money relative to their needs
hi,
Someone on page 25 was commenting that you can't stand and type on an iPad.
Is it somehow easier to stand and type on a laptop/netbook? I don't understand why this is considered an issue.
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I find myself having to constantly defend the fact that I own one to people I show it to. I remember going through the exact same thing when I was a teenager trying to convince my parents that we needed a computer. They saw absolutely no reason why someone would need a computer in the house, and this was in 1994.
This type of thing happens with every new device. I remember reading a book called The Great Brain when I was a kid. The setting was the early 1900's, and the book was partially based on the author's real-life childhood experiences. One chapter of the book which I'll never forget talked about when the main character's father was the first person in the neighborhood to install a "water closet" inside their house. People ridiculed him because they couldn't understand why anyone would want to use the bathroom indoors instead of using an outhouse. Each person in the neighborhood took shots at the crazy new gadget because they couldn't see past the status quo. We all know how that turned out in the end. Folks will come around eventually.
This type of thing happens with every new device. I remember reading a book called The Great Brain when I was a kid. The setting was the early 1900's, and the book was partially based on the author's real-life childhood experiences. One chapter of the book which I'll never forget talked about when the main character's father was the first person in the neighborhood to install a "water closet" inside their house. People ridiculed him because they couldn't understand why anyone would want to use the bathroom indoors instead of using an outhouse. Each person in the neighborhood took shots at the crazy new gadget because they couldn't see past the status quo. We all know how that turned out in the end. Folks will come around eventually.
Nah... All members of the "established IT crowd" I know are big fans of Apple. Maybe not every product, some have iPhones, some have MacBooks, others are looking for iPads. I've seen people struggle with OSX as much as I've seen people struggle with Win7. Also, IT has very little to do with PC or Mac. It has to do with Exchange, Active Directory, FreeBSD, SQL etc, etc. Making PC's easier is not a threat in any way shape or form to IT people, it just means we get to spend more time on important things and we get to deal with less users. If only you could cost justify mac products, you can ALMOST cost justify mac minis....
You do realize this is your second post unfairly hating on IT people in a thread about people being unfairly hated on for having an iPad? You are one of them! You must have had a bad experience or something.
You do realize this is your second post unfairly hating on IT people in a thread about people being unfairly hated on for having an iPad? You are one of them!
You must have had a bad experience or something.Look at the e-reader demographic that actually bothers to participate in a forum about them.
It's all corporate IT or those who have a stake in keeping tech above everyday understanding. MacRumors is full of them. These people have and always will feel threatened by Apple products. That's because Apple empowers and enables the average user, making the "technically inclined" individuals less relevant.
They're afraid that tech has finally progressed to where *everyone* can be equally competent with it. The Average Joe enabled and empowered to this degree by tech (thus not needing anyone to explain things) is a threat to the general Windows-geek-IT establishment.
Going back further, it's really quite a laugh to see all those people who put down the GUI in favour of the Command Script.
Yes, it's true. The GUI wasn't as powerful back then and couldn't do everything a 'real' computer would, but look what happened in a few years. The haters definitely learnt to shut up by the 90's.
History is truly an endless waltz.
When I hear people call mine "a big iPod" I say "ok", shrug and continue with what I was doing. Then they just stand there as if they are expecting a demo, or at least a debate. After a minute of this, I've had many of these people literally begging to see it in action. At which point I reply "Why are you so interested? it's just a big iPod".
Look at the e-reader demographic that actually bothers to participate in a forum about them.
It's all corporate IT or those who have a stake in keeping tech above everyday understanding. MacRumors is full of them. These people have and always will feel threatened by Apple products. That's because Apple empowers and enables the average user, making the "technically inclined" individuals less relevant.
They're afraid that tech has finally progressed to where *everyone* can be equally competent with it. The Average Joe enabled and empowered to this degree by tech (thus not needing anyone to explain things) is a threat to the general Windows-geek-IT establishment.
You are simply amazing. Really. And this is said with complete sarcasm.
I was insulted by my boss when I brought my iPad to work on April 5. He said his opinion of me went down a notch.
Of course I asked him if he ever used one and he said no.
I have talked with him before about Apple stuff and he's pretty much hung up on the price of the hardware. He said he can get a much more powerful machine for less money.
I didn't bother arguing with him as I'm sick and tired of explaining to people the differences in hardware and software between Macs and PCs. I basically told him then don't buy Apple stuff. Just leaves more for me.
the hardware isn't very different between PCs and Macs. The difference is software. Everytime I buy a new PC, I get all this bloated trial software that I don't want, I have to get antivirus software which causes my system to slow down and I have to be careful of viruses. For a Mac, I don't have to care about all that stuff, and in addition, I can run Windows on a mac if I want to for free via bootcamp. OS X is just much much simpler to use, I don't waste CPU cycles running antivirus stuff and I pretty much get to do everything I did on a PC and I still have windows installed on my Mac for the few times a year I need it. Ever since Macs went Intel, their utility has shot up considerably.
Here's another thing, and this is about iBooks. Say you go on iBooks and purchase $10,000 worth of books. Everything's stored right there on your iPad. Your purchases are also registered to your account so you can download them again for free. Let's say your house burns down, all you lose is the cost of your iPad. You can replace all your books for free on a new iPad. If you had physical books, well guess what? your books are all gone!
That's the first thing I thought of when people started talking about digital music, and later eBooks. I mean, anyone's house can burn down, and your Music collection and book collection may be humongous. The most innovative thing about digital distribution is that you can simply redownload them.
And what does this have to do with iPad? There are millions of other devices and ways to consume digital media, without the iPad.
Despite what you may think, iPad didn't invent or "revolutionize" eBooks etc. It's just another media consumption device.
It didn't invent e-books but it certainly will popularize them. Thousands of people will be buying iBooks or books from the iPad Kindle app who would never have bought a Kindle or any other e-reader (I fit into this demographic).
I would say that if they introduce the issue of price into the discussion, then it is reasonable to posit that their reason is at least partly due to lack of funds. Quite honestly, I cannot imagine commenting on the price on any item that another person owns or displays, be it a vehicle, electronics, jewelry, or computing gear. Doing so is simply rude, particularly if they are observing that you were ripped off or a foolish consumer.
When someone shows me their brand new state-of-the-art Gateway, I don't tell them what I really think - instead I may comment on the excellent lustre of the case or the colorful desktop image. I might even say something nice about Windows 7. I would do the same if they showed me their deluxe Coby stereo system. Or their brand new Yugo.
Even if the commenter really does have plenty of money, the fixation of the cost over any consideration of quality really does say things about them. A total lack of tact being only one of those things.
People who keep the golden rule in mind when they interact with others really are better than those who don't - decency, tact, and politeness do count.
There is a retort to the "just a big iPhone" statement -- ask if they have an iPhone or iPod touch and when they produce it, say "oh.... What an adorable minature iPad!". Then just glare at them incredulously?
This is what ive learned in life: role models 1) my father 2) john lennon 3) steve jobs. LOL (im not to sure about the last 2)
And now the rules of life: 1) nobody changes 2)everyone is stupid
3) everyone has a problem with everything from our own point of view on everything and anything not just the world of apple
like i was on the bus today and my friend was like are u getting an ipad and i was like yeah. he said its so stupid its a giant ipod, of course i freaked out. then he said its like a touch screen laptop and that is stupid. so i said make up ur mind and i once again freaked out. like i have come up with this :
apple users may it be a mac or in this case ipad have real technical discussions about a product and the opposite user say a windows user has a excuse like "well mac sucks" or "its a giant ipod". either they cant afford it or they never even used it also if they have no need for it . and this my friends is why i have put my rules of lie up on this post
And now the rules of life: 1) nobody changes 2)everyone is stupid
3) everyone has a problem with everything from our own point of view on everything and anything not just the world of apple
like i was on the bus today and my friend was like are u getting an ipad and i was like yeah. he said its so stupid its a giant ipod, of course i freaked out. then he said its like a touch screen laptop and that is stupid. so i said make up ur mind and i once again freaked out. like i have come up with this :
apple users may it be a mac or in this case ipad have real technical discussions about a product and the opposite user say a windows user has a excuse like "well mac sucks" or "its a giant ipod". either they cant afford it or they never even used it also if they have no need for it . and this my friends is why i have put my rules of lie up on this post
I just response to them saying ya, and Swimming pools are just big bathtubs. That pretty much stops them dead in their tracks.
(I took that from someone who said it on these boards, can't remember who it was)
You Don't Have to Own One to Get Insulted
Everyone knows where I work I'd probably be an early adopter of the iPad. I don't have it yet as I ordered a 3G.
While at a meeting today someone asked me about the iPad. I then got a lecture from another attendee (who owns Apple tech.) that they had checked one out and went on a long tirade on how they had a laptop and already had an iPod Touch. They went on to say they couldn't understand why anyone would buy one. And went into it is neither "fish nor foul".
I didn't respond because it was clear there was no way I could convince them as to the reasons why I wanted one. Frankly I don't care why anyone else doesn't want one.
I for one can't understand why the iPad raises so much controversy, or why anyone presumes to know what another person should want or need for the personal use.
This meeting came on the heels of a different meeting I had where I got another lecture from someone who gave me the I won't be Apple because it is a closed system (referring to an iPhone and an iPad) Sheesh!
Once I get the iPad I'm going to bring it to every future meeting and happily answer any questions that people have.
Everyone knows where I work I'd probably be an early adopter of the iPad. I don't have it yet as I ordered a 3G.
While at a meeting today someone asked me about the iPad. I then got a lecture from another attendee (who owns Apple tech.) that they had checked one out and went on a long tirade on how they had a laptop and already had an iPod Touch. They went on to say they couldn't understand why anyone would buy one. And went into it is neither "fish nor foul".
I didn't respond because it was clear there was no way I could convince them as to the reasons why I wanted one. Frankly I don't care why anyone else doesn't want one.
I for one can't understand why the iPad raises so much controversy, or why anyone presumes to know what another person should want or need for the personal use.
This meeting came on the heels of a different meeting I had where I got another lecture from someone who gave me the I won't be Apple because it is a closed system (referring to an iPhone and an iPad) Sheesh!
Once I get the iPad I'm going to bring it to every future meeting and happily answer any questions that people have.