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tbayrgs

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I have to admit...I'm really pleasantly surprised by what HTC's done with the 10. My preference would be for something a bit bigger and I'd love it to be waterproof but otherwise, they've really tick all my boxes, so to speak. And AirPlay works out of the box...that's an unexpected bonus.
 

epicrayban

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I have to admit...I'm really pleasantly surprised by what HTC's done with the 10. My preference would be for something a bit bigger and I'd love it to be waterproof but otherwise, they've really tick all my boxes, so to speak. And AirPlay works out of the box...that's an unexpected bonus.

I think HTC is trying to capture some of Apple's audience. Home button, too, now.

I think the unlock price is a bit of a mistake; it's too high in such a competitive space.
 
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bchreng

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Dang the Samsung cheerleader bias is just as blind as my negative Samsung bias. Phone isn't even announced yet.

And waterproofing has been hinted at.... why are the Samsung fans counting it out already?

Nope. No sign of any sort of waterproofing during this morning's announcements. Samsung fans apparently counting it out because it's fact.
 

tbayrgs

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Isn't the $699 price historically higher than HTC's previous years' flagships?

I think that price might be a mistake given their position in the market right now...

Considering the Galaxy S7 is currently $695 at AT&T, I have to agree. This is likely HTC's last gasp in the smartphone arena and they really need to make a splash, even if it means taking a hit to the bottom line. Make HTC relevant in smartphones again, they worry about profit because the former doesn't happen at all without the latter.
 

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Nope. No sign of any sort of waterproofing during this morning's announcements. Samsung fans apparently counting it out because it's fact.

And yesterday when I wrote that it was not a fact :rolleyes:
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Considering the Galaxy S7 is currently $695 at AT&T, I have to agree. This is likely HTC's last gasp in the smartphone arena and they really need to make a splash, even if it means taking a hit to the bottom line. Make HTC relevant in smartphones again, they worry about profit because the former doesn't happen at all without the latter.

Year warranty comes with it:

It’ll ship in early May with Uh-Oh Protection, which will get you a free replacement unit if you crack your screen within your first 12 months of ownership, as well as a warranty that covers bootloader unlocking.

That is worth something.
 

bchreng

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I really like the lack of duplicate apps. Hopefully Samsung is paying attention here.

This. Offering an unlocked model in the US is also something Samsung should take note of. Provided the camera is as great daily use as the specs suggest, this should be one heck of a phone. I hope it does well.
 
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tbayrgs

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And thank God they put the buttons in the correct position....and no front logo!! (looking at you Samsung :p;))

UPDATE: As I'm reading I'm coming upon more good news (sorry if it's been mentioned in previous posts already)--USB-C with QC 3.0 AND fully enabled for the latest USB 3.1 standard. Also, less app redundancy, more standard Google app integration (no more stand alone Gallery app, just Google Photos, which ties directly into the camera app). Very nice moves, IMO.

I really wasn't expecting to see anything too relevant from HTC today...and I'm finding myself having to fight back a little urge to actually preorder this phone. Hmmmmm.....
 
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bchreng

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And yesterday when I wrote that it was not a fact :rolleyes:

Yeah, so maybe you should consider your sources a little more carefully before quoting them to belittle fans of other phones. Or not. Keep doing what you do. Peace :confused:
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And thank God they put the buttons in the correct position....and no front logo!! (looking at you Samsung :p;))

I really wasn't expecting to see anything too relevant from HTC today...and I'm finding myself having to fight back a little urge to actually preorder this phone. Hmmmmm.....

Preorder now! You can always cancel it later if you change your mind. :D
 

epicrayban

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And thank God they put the buttons in the correct position....and no front logo!! (looking at you Samsung :p;))

UPDATE: As I'm reading I'm coming upon more good news (sorry if it's been mentioned in previous posts already)--USB-C with QC 3.0 AND fully enabled for the latest USB 3.1 standard. Also, less app redundancy, more standard Google app integration (no more stand alone Gallery app, just Google Photos, which ties directly into the camera app). Very nice moves, IMO.

I really wasn't expecting to see anything too relevant from HTC today...and I'm finding myself having to fight back a little urge to actually preorder this phone. Hmmmmm.....

Do it!

There are definitely a number of things Samsung can learn from HTC today. The button placement; the lack of duplicate apps; selling unlocked.

The question is, will HTC succeed enough for Samsung to listen?
 

tbayrgs

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Do it!

There are definitely a number of things Samsung can learn from HTC today. The button placement; the lack of duplicate apps; selling unlocked.

The question is, will HTC succeed enough for Samsung to listen?

As much as I like what HTC has done with the 10, I still think as a smartphone company, they are 'dead man walking'---just too little, too late (and a bit too expensive ;)).

And I'm not going to pre-order...don't think it'll be difficult to secure one later, maybe even at a cheaper price, if I really feel the urge. If it was waterproof, I'd probably jump on it as I'd love to have a waterproof smartphone on vacation. Truthfully though, I still prefer to live day-to-day with iOS and it's integration to all things Apple. There's just too much compromise for me to leave (and no, not feeling trapt, genuinely prefer how it all ties together, especially when it comes to my family and friends), as good as the hardware may be.
 

jamezr

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As much as I like what HTC has done with the 10, I still think as a smartphone company, they are 'dead man walking'---just too little, too late (and a bit too expensive ;)).

And I'm not going to pre-order...don't think it'll be difficult to secure one later, maybe even at a cheaper price, if I really feel the urge. If it was waterproof, I'd probably jump on it as I'd love to have a waterproof smartphone on vacation. Truthfully though, I still prefer to live day-to-day with iOS and it's integration to all things Apple. There's just too much compromise for me to leave (and no, not feeling trapt, genuinely prefer how it all ties together, especially when it comes to my family and friends), as good as the hardware may be.
I am in the same frame of mind..... I like what HTC has done with the M10. I like what I have read about it so far. But based on past experiences with the M9 and the financial health of the company.....i am a little hesitant. I will wait and get some hands on first. Then at 5.2 it might be a little small. But definitely a good move forward for HTC.....but is it enough for them? With all the rest of the Android phones out there will they be able to sell enough in a crowded market space?
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Do it!

There are definitely a number of things Samsung can learn from HTC today. The button placement; the lack of duplicate apps; selling unlocked.

The question is, will HTC succeed enough for Samsung to listen?
I hope Samsung learns a few things from the HTC M10. First remove the front logo.......and sell their phones unlocked from their website.
The capacitive buttons don't bother me. But I wish they were customizable. We should be able to switch them to whatever side we prefer.
 

Tig Bitties

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Luckily I'm on JoD T-Mobile, but that $699 price is crazy IMO, compared to the Nexus 6P can be had brand new for $449. I would never pay $600+ for a smartphone, that's absurd. When the Nexus phone is almost every bit as good hardware wise, and better software wise. But with the 6P being 1/3rd cheaper, I would still recommend that over any new flagship today, price being a main reason.

Or the S7 Edge being what $750, that's insane, and the iPhone 6S Plus being like $800 LOL, who the F would pay those crazy price for a smartphone ? When the Nexus 6P is so much cheaper, and really near as good.
 

epicrayban

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The capacitive buttons don't bother me. But I wish they were customizable. We should be able to switch them to whatever side we prefer.

Now that's an idea.
[doublepost=1460479649][/doublepost]Now that it's official, I wonder what the HTC 10 means for the rumored Nexus device they'll be making this year. Similar design...?
 

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Now that's an idea.
[doublepost=1460479649][/doublepost]Now that it's official, I wonder what the HTC 10 means for the rumored Nexus device they'll be making this year. Similar design...?

This likely doesn't mean much. Google has design control over the device. That means likely bigger, no SD card slot, Nexus Imprint, etc.
 
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jamezr

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Now that's an idea.
[doublepost=1460479649][/doublepost]Now that it's official, I wonder what the HTC 10 means for the rumored Nexus device they'll be making this year. Similar design...?
Oh....that's right. The Nexus phones will probably look very similar with similar specs. The Nexus phones will be killer then!
What dates do they announce the next Nexus lines?
 

Surf Donkey

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Yeah, so maybe you should consider your sources a little more carefully before quoting them to belittle fans of other phones. Or not. Keep doing what you do. Peace :confused:

Well considering every source said it would have it......up until a day before the release. What exact source should I consider? Samsung fans hoping they have the only waterproof phone? Every phone would be better with waterproofing, but as proven there is a cost as well (ie speaker quality, cost to manufacture). I still think it is great Samsung is pushing other brands here, but I wouldn't pass on a phone just because it is not waterproof. Still have yet to have water damage on a well made phone, and I live in the Pac NW with rains, go on hikes weekly, snow, beach, pool, etc.

But I totally get why it is one of those things that is hard to give up once you have it.
 

Sensamic

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This might be my next phone! Love that the home button is capacitive and not hardware! That was one of my biggest concerns.

The second one is the display. Super LCD 5 is the same as IPS? Cause previous HTC flagships didn't have as nice screens as some of the other flagships.

But having quick charge 3.0, microSD, even less bloatware, seemingly good cameras, fast and fluid makes it a very compelling over. If the camera and screen are good this is better than the S7 for me.
 
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Sensamic

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Luckily I'm on JoD T-Mobile, but that $699 price is crazy IMO, compared to the Nexus 6P can be had brand new for $449. I would never pay $600+ for a smartphone, that's absurd. When the Nexus phone is almost every bit as good hardware wise, and better software wise. But with the 6P being 1/3rd cheaper, I would still recommend that over any new flagship today, price being a main reason.

Or the S7 Edge being what $750, that's insane, and the iPhone 6S Plus being like $800 LOL, who the F would pay those crazy price for a smartphone ? When the Nexus 6P is so much cheaper, and really near as good.
My problem with the 6P is that it's just too big and heavy. I don't want a phablet, even if it's cheaper. I much prefer the size of my S6 or G3 tops. So that's why the 6P is a very difficult choice for me.

I tried the Note 4 for 3 months and had to sell it. Couldn't adjust to the size.

And the 5X hardware isn't that good for the next 2 years.
 
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AppleRobert

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My problem with the 6P is that it's just too big and heavy. I don't want a phablet, even if it's cheaper. I much prefer the size of my S6 or G3 tops. So that's why the 6P is a very difficult choice for me.

I tried the Note 4 for 3 months and had to sell it. Couldn't adjust to the size.

And the 5X hardware isn't that good for the next 2 years.

The S7 Edge's size certainly is not preposterous considering some other phablets and while the S6 isn't in that category one can consider the latter a bit large versus the Edge's overall size with its nice display. :)
 
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