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HTC 10

epicrayban said:
Looks like they're going with an A9-inspired design according to Evleaks: http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...ded-to-AT-T-could-resemble-the-One-A9_id77718
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If that's even the case, I am done with HTC. Please don't copy that lame iPhone 6 design, which is almost two years old now. It's pathetic for an Android manufacturer to blatantly copy the style of the Apple smartphone. Especially HTC, when there's no need too, they can create original fresh great looking devices, please don't make another A9 design for your flagship.

Plus with the all new totally different designed iPhone 7 due this Summer, any phone that looks like the old iPhone 6S will look immediately outdated once the iPhone 7 releases.
 
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HTC will say that they're the ones that were copied when the iPhone introduced the iPhone 6.

I disagree with them. But even if I didn't, there's no question the A9 looks way too similar to the iPhone 6 generation design. The majority of the people will not know HTC did white antennae lines first in the M7. And frankly, who cares? The fact is, the iPhone 6 is too popular and is now considered another Apple iconic design, and anything that looks similar to it will be called copying Apple. It'll be seen as trying to mimic the iPhone 6 design. There's just no way to get around that.

And if HTC makes an A9 inspired One M10, where the comparison can be drawn again between them and the iPhone 6 design, that is just inviting trouble. HTC can't afford -- literally and figuratively -- to have any stain on their next release.

PS. I'd be embarrassed to carry an A9 because of its design.

PPS. I wonder what this means for their rumored Nexus 2016...
 
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epicrayban said:
HTC will say that they're the ones that were copied when the iPhone introduced the iPhone 6.

I disagree with them. But even if I didn't, there's no question the A9 looks way too similar to the iPhone 6 generation design. The majority of the people will not know HTC did white antennae lines first in the M7. And frankly, who cares? The fact is, the iPhone 6 is too popular and is now considered another Apple iconic design, and anything that looks similar to it will be called copying Apple. It'll be seen as trying to mimic the iPhone 6 design. There's just no way to get around that.

And if HTC makes an A9 inspired One M10, where the comparison can be drawn again between them and the iPhone 6 design, that is just inviting trouble. HTC can't afford -- literally and figuratively -- to have any stain on their next release.

PS. I'd be embarrassed to carry an A9 because of its design.

PPS. I wonder what this means for their rumored Nexus 2016...
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Agree 1000%. HTC cannot afford the bad press of having the One M10 labeled as a iPhone 6 clone lookalike. And HTC is better than that, they don't need to do this scared and try to fool people with this Apple inspired design, by playing it safe. HTC can create their own fresh original designs, and very good ones at that. Just do it, and stop being afraid.

But sadly the bean counters won't allow them to make an all new fresh totally original design, their number crunchers accountants will tell them they need to make something like Apple to help sell it.

This is it for HTC, they will go the Apple clone route, and they just won't understand why it wasn't a big success.
 
epicrayban said:
HTC will say that they're the ones that were copied when the iPhone introduced the iPhone 6.

I disagree with them. But even if I didn't, there's no question the A9 looks way too similar to the iPhone 6 generation design. The majority of the people will not know HTC did white antennae lines first in the M7. And frankly, who cares? The fact is, the iPhone 6 is too popular and is now considered another Apple iconic design, and anything that looks similar to it will be called copying Apple. It'll be seen as trying to mimic the iPhone 6 design. There's just no way to get around that.

And if HTC makes an A9 inspired One M10, where the comparison can be drawn again between them and the iPhone 6 design, that is just inviting trouble. HTC can't afford -- literally and figuratively -- to have any stain on their next release.

PS. I'd be embarrassed to carry an A9 because of its design.

PPS. I wonder what this means for their rumored Nexus 2016...
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While I disagree wholeheartedly that Apple copied HTC in any way, I tried out an A9 a few weeks ago and I wouldn't say that it's nearly as much as an iPhone clone than it seems. More like the M9 than anything else. I mean, if you look at the sides of both phones, they're nearly identical, ignoring the speakers. What HTC said about it being evolutionary from the M9, you can kind of see what they mean when you look at it in person. The metal even has the same feel.
Regarding reputation, HTC has already made an experimental move with the A9, and apparently it worked. Unlikely that it'll be different the second time around. Sure, people see it as a copy, but a lot of people either just don't care or find excuses to say that. I've had people telling me that my gold Edge+ is an iPhone copy. Wut...?
Me, I think HTC are doing the right thing. HTC have the most premium designs in the Android market in my opinion, and the A9 (excepting the huge bezels and HTC front logo) and potential M10 are no exceptions.
 
New HTC One M10 details: Quad HD AMOLED display, fingerprint scanner, 12 UltraPixel OIS camera and more
http://phandroid.com/2016/01/28/htc-one-m10-specs-info/


- The HTC One M10 will have a 5.1-inch Quad HD (2560 x 1440) display.
- The rear camera is a 12MP UltraPixel sensor, and both the rear and front sensors will have optical image stabilization.
- Inside is a Snapdragon 820 chipset, 4GB of RAM and at least 32GB of storage (which can be expanded via microSD).
- There’s a home button that doubles as a fingerprint scanner.
- Boomsound speakers are gone.
- It’ll ship with Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow and Sense 8.0.
 
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Tig Bitties said:
New HTC One M10 details: Quad HD AMOLED display, fingerprint scanner, 12 UltraPixel OIS camera and more
http://phandroid.com/2016/01/28/htc-one-m10-specs-info/


- The HTC One M10 will have a 5.1-inch Quad HD (2560 x 1440) display.
- The rear camera is a 12MP UltraPixel sensor, and both the rear and front sensors will have optical image stabilization.
- Inside is a Snapdragon 820 chipset, 4GB of RAM and at least 32GB of storage (which can be expanded via microSD).
- There’s a home button that doubles as a fingerprint scanner.
- Boomsound speakers are gone.
- It’ll ship with Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow and Sense 8.0.
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Boom speakers gone? Because of a finger print/home button?

And I assume there'll be some HTC logo at the bottom, too.

They could've implemented a scanner maybe in the stupid HTC logo at the bottom of their phone and kept the stereo boom speakers.

If I was HTC, I would've kept on-screen buttons, used the HTC logo/space as the finger print scanner, and left the boom speakers.

Boy, they're starting to annoy me. lol.
 
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epicrayban said:
Boom speakers gone? Because of a finger print/home button?

And I assume there'll be some HTC logo at the bottom, too.

They could've implemented a scanner maybe in the stupid HTC logo at the bottom of their phone and kept the stereo boom speakers.

If I was HTC, I would've kept on-screen buttons, used the HTC logo/space as the finger print scanner, and left the boom speakers.

Boy, they're starting to annoy me. lol.
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Took the words right out of my mouth. If they could do it with the X9, they could do it with the M10. And get rid of the damn logo.
 
Tig Bitties said:
New HTC One M10 details: Quad HD AMOLED display, fingerprint scanner, 12 UltraPixel OIS camera and more
http://phandroid.com/2016/01/28/htc-one-m10-specs-info/


- The HTC One M10 will have a 5.1-inch Quad HD (2560 x 1440) display.
- The rear camera is a 12MP UltraPixel sensor, and both the rear and front sensors will have optical image stabilization.
- Inside is a Snapdragon 820 chipset, 4GB of RAM and at least 32GB of storage (which can be expanded via microSD).
- There’s a home button that doubles as a fingerprint scanner.
- Boomsound speakers are gone.
- It’ll ship with Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow and Sense 8.0.
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Wow, 12 ultra pixel camera sounds very promising. Everything sounds good (except for the loss of boom sound). If they do a home button though, they better have capacitive back and multitasking buttons too, no point in taking up precious screen real estate when you don't need too.
 
epicrayban said:
Boom speakers gone? Because of a finger print/home button?

And I assume there'll be some HTC logo at the bottom, too.

They could've implemented a scanner maybe in the stupid HTC logo at the bottom of their phone and kept the stereo boom speakers.

If I was HTC, I would've kept on-screen buttons, used the HTC logo/space as the finger print scanner, and left the boom speakers.

Boy, they're starting to annoy me. lol.
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So HTC is taking what's unique about their most recent phones, eliminating it and just morphing into a version of everything else.

Here's the important question...why would anyone choose this over another Android phone or the iPhone? What makes the experience of using the One M10 different from other comparable (flagship is too overused) phones? Why would I buy this instead of a Samsung Galaxy/Note, Nexus 6P, etc? The single feature they've been known for doing the best is being removed. Now it's just likely a lesser version of everything else already on the market.

If you want to succeed at all in the Android world, you have to differentiate from your competitors. Samsung has the best hardware, Google offers a clean, true stock Android experience (and now much better hardware), Moto has a simply software experience and customizable hardware, LG still lets you have expandable storage and removable batteries, while numerous others are offering improving smartphone experience at a more affordable price. Anyone honestly think they'll offer better hardware than Samsung or a better user experience than Samsung, Moto, or Google? Is HTC going to compete in price with the ever increasing number of more affordable mid-range phones that often perform as well as the so called high end devices?

Good bye HTC, was nice knowing you.
 
Three things turning me off the One M10;

- Fingerprint button on the front bottom = YUCK :( That makes it look like a Samsung or iPhone. To me Android phones look so beautiful with the clean minimalist front design, no branding or logo, no buttons on the front. Put it on the back like the Nexus phones.

- No dual speakers on the top and bottom, are they crazy ? That's a main HTC feature.

- A9 design, NO THANKS, that A9 / iPhone 6 clone is pathetic and sad looking. HTC needs to go for that render from last year that I posted
 
Both Samsung and HTC seem to be going with 12MP sensors. That must be the sweet-spot in terms of sharpness and low-light capabilities.

I'm really looking forward to photo samples comparing these two phones agains the iPhone 6s and then later the iPhone 7. They will be much easier to compare if they all have the same resolution.
 
Andres Cantu said:
Both Samsung and HTC seem to be going with 12MP sensors. That must be the sweet-spot in terms of sharpness and low-light capabilities.

I'm really looking forward to photo samples comparing these two phones agains the iPhone 6s and then later the iPhone 7. They will be much easier to compare if they all have the same resolution.
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Given HTC's past ultrapixel results I will call Samsung the better without testing either. Biggest issue with past ultrapixel camera, wasn't the ridiculous low res output, but the fact that whilst low light may benefit from the technology, the results in normal daylight suffer consistently. Excessive burn out in images as the camera allows too much light into shot.

Hopefully they can fix that but given they never did with the m7 & m8, I wouldn't hold my breath.

To me going back to ultrapixel is a regression. The camera in the HTC A9 from all reviews seems to really quite decent, the M9 was better than previous M's. Why step back to ultrapixel now ?
 
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Given HTC's past ultrapixel results I will call Samsung the better without testing either. Biggest issue with past ultrapixel camera, wasn't the ridiculous low res output, but the fact that whilst low light may benefit from the technology, the results in normal daylight suffer consistently. Excessive burn out in images as the camera allows too much light into shot.

Hopefully they can fix that but given they never did with the m7 & m8, I wouldn't hold my breath.

To me going back to ultrapixel is a regression. The camera in the HTC A9 from all reviews seems to really quite decent, the M9 was better than previous M's. Why step back to ultrapixel now ?
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I wasn't aware of those burn-out image results. Thanks for informing me about that :)

I wonder if it's possible for them to implement a technology that allows their camera to change apertures to fix that very issue? Perhaps the Ultrapixel name will be just purely for marketing and have the same camera specs as the GS7?

But I agree. In my opinion, HTC has been the manufacturer with the most inconsistency between their flagship devices. Both Samsung and Apple have shown progress throughout the years, but HTC has been all over the place.
 
I feeling about the 12MP UltraPixel camera. It proves that they can have great low-light performance without resorting to low MP. Hopefully they can sort out image processing, which was the weak point in the last 3 M phones.
 
nj-morris said:
I feeling about the 12MP UltraPixel camera. It proves that they can have great low-light performance without resorting to low MP. Hopefully they can sort out image processing, which was the weak point in the last 3 M phones.
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With so many companies making great devices with good cameras it shouldn't be that hard to do correctly in the M10 one would think.
 
Andres Cantu said:
So...where are the HTC One M10 leaks? We've seen the S7, but not the M10 (nor the G5, for that matter).
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It's looking like HTC are going to release after the S7 & G5. Expect leaks to start appearing around the unveiling and before launch of those other devices.
 
MRU said:
It's looking like HTC are going to release after the S7 & G5. Expect leaks to start appearing around the unveiling and before launch of those other devices.
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That could very well be.

Last year in late January we had leaked images of the M9 (http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/01/22/new-leaked-images-purport-show-much-less-blurry-htc-one-m9/), so it seems strange to me that the devices that will be totally redesigned have not leaked yet while the one that stayed mostly the same did.

I really want to see how the M10 and the G5 will look, since both should be major redesigns.
 
Here's the M10 by HTC.
 

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