HTC 10

[MRU]

Why've you got the Taiwan unit?

HTC website doesn't supply Ireland. HTC had an exclusive with Three Ireland network and didn't get the HTC 10 available until weeks after official release.

I therefore had to choose import either from UK (and it would have ended up costing more) or elsewhere so I chose to import from Asia as it was cheaper and came unlocked and unbranded.

 

[vahdyx]

I am struggling to get info on the camera. Lol. But yeah I'm starting to wonder if it's just your version has a better lens. A large part of me thinks it's just the distance from the camera module cause the issue.

Or maybe it is the camera lens itself cause the issue and not the protective glass

 

[Cole Slaw]

I have an unlocked Taiwanese unit as well and have not had any flaring issues.

 

[c0ppo]

HTC is most certainly doomed. I'm looking at my home country, a friend of mine wants to purchase the phone, but black variant only. And it is nowhere to be found. You can pay for it, and then wait god knows how long to get it... Not even one carrier has it on display.

It's a shame, coz this is a fantastic device. I never used a word like 'the best' even when speaking for myself. But to be honest, I've never seen or used a better android device out there. Never! HTC 10 is one nice allrounder that does everything right.

 

[vahdyx]

I would debate against a doomed HTC. With the Nexus deal, and the success of the Vive I would say they're doing par for themselves overall. I'm just guessing though. I don't think they're gonna release numbers anytime soon.

Question is are they doing better than the HTC M9.

***Edit***

http://nr.news-republic.com/Web/ArticleWeb.aspx?regionid=1&articleid=68200020&source=drive

See for example it's doing rather well in other countries. It won't be their demise.

 

[c0ppo]

VR game is not a game breaker I'm afraid. And I was talking about their mobile devision.
I still haven't seen even one htc 10 in the wild...

 

[epicrayban]

I still haven't seen even one htc 10 in the wild...

Neither have I, sadly.

 

[joshwithachance]

The 10 flopped even harder than I thought it would. It's actually an incredible phone, but literally no one gives a crap, and never will, because it's HTC.

 

[MRU]

The 10 flopped even harder than I thought it would. It's actually an incredible phone, but literally no one gives a crap, and never will, because it's HTC.

They don't care because they (the vast majority of the general public) haven't heard of it or seen it out in the wild. The exclusivity arrangements HTC has made with carriers is ridiculous, especially when those carriers don't even want to push it themselves. Likewise HTC's online availability is pathetic with only a small handful of countries supported (much like Moto) meaning even if you did want to buy it as an enthusiast, they made it difficult to do so without importing or using parcel forwarding companies.

Sadly HTC's failure to market the HTC 10 has to be laid at their feet and it is a sad because as you say, they actually have an excellent device this year ....

 

[Wildo6882]

They don't care because they (the vast majority of the general public) haven't heard of it or seen it out in the wild. The exclusivity arrangements HTC has made with carriers is ridiculous, especially when those carriers don't even want to push it themselves. Likewise HTC's online availability is pathetic with only a small handful of countries supported (much like Moto) meaning even if you did want to buy it as an enthusiast, they made it difficult to do so without importing or using parcel forwarding companies.

Sadly HTC's failure to market the HTC 10 has to be laid at their feet and it is a sad because as you say, they actually have an excellent device this year ....

This is actually really sad. This is a great phone. It's pretty much up their with the king(s) from Samsung and anything else in the Android world. But the fact that the public has NO clue about this phone is the biggest failure and oversight that it can't overcome, and this is honestly a disservice to the public. This phone, for those that like Android or want to try out, should be a top seller. But it isn't. It's nowhere to be seen in AT&T, which is obviously a giant company with ridiculous reach in the US. And it's tucked away in Verizon and T-Mobile. I hope the Nexus breathes a little life into HTC, because I think they are needed in Android, but my hope is only that...hope.

 

[co.ag.2005]

This is actually really sad. This is a great phone. It's pretty much up their with the king(s) from Samsung and anything else in the Android world. But the fact that the public has NO clue about this phone is the biggest failure and oversight that it can't overcome, and this is honestly a disservice to the public. This phone, for those that like Android or want to try out, should be a top seller. But it isn't. It's nowhere to be seen in AT&T, which is obviously a giant company with ridiculous reach in the US. And it's tucked away in Verizon and T-Mobile. I hope the Nexus breathes a little life into HTC, because I think they are needed in Android, but my hope is only that...hope.

At my local Verizon store, they even took down the display model because the phone wasn't selling. I went in the other day to play with it and check it out and the sales rep I always chum it up with informed me of this. I was sad to not be able to play with this phone but I guess they wanted to clear some space for the arriving Moto Z Droid line (which wasn't in the store yet).

 

[vahdyx]

I'm gonna give this a try. https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/How+to+apply+anti-fingerprint+oleophobic+coating/9682 I really think this will help the HTC camera

 

[MRU]

I'm gonna give this a try. https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/How+to+apply+anti-fingerprint+oleophobic+coating/9682 I really think this will help the HTC camera

Keep us posted

 

[vahdyx]

So Sony doesn't move that many Xperia's but they're behind Samsung in terms of profit (I'll try and find source). Everyone else is doing worse than Sony and here in the states the same argument can be had that was made about HTC. I don't see anyone with a Sony phone. I have yet to see a single person, but I do know of one other HTC 10 user in Coloardo. Yes I know one person with an HTC 10 in Colorado vs the majority of iPhone and Samsung phones I see everywhere, it honestly makes no difference in this debate. It's such a small factor in this it's not even worth mentioning.

But the thing is, if HTC was smart about it, then numbers wouldn't make a different. If cost to manufacture, and research and development and this and that and the other is less than each unit sold then they're making money. I don't know if this is the case and it could be far from it, but my point is, units sold doesn't mean success for a company necessarily.

And like I said, the Nexus name will surely help if there are deficits

***Edit***

Looks like I was wrong, Sony pulls more profit than Samsung according to this article which pulls it's source from another location.

http://pocketnow.com/2016/03/14/sony-smartphone-profits

 

[c0ppo]

So Sony doesn't move that many Xperia's but they're behind Samsung in terms of profit (I'll try and find source). Everyone else is doing worse than Sony and here in the states the same argument can be had that was made about HTC. I don't see anyone with a Sony phone. I have yet to see a single person, but I do know of one other HTC 10 user in Coloardo. Yes I know one person with an HTC 10 in Colorado vs the majority of iPhone and Samsung phones I see everywhere, it honestly makes no difference in this debate. It's such a small factor in this it's not even worth mentioning.

But the thing is, if HTC was smart about it, then numbers wouldn't make a different. If cost to manufacture, and research and development and this and that and the other is less than each unit sold then they're making money. I don't know if this is the case and it could be far from it, but my point is, units sold doesn't mean success for a company necessarily.

And like I said, the Nexus name will surely help if there are deficits

***Edit***

Looks like I was wrong, Sony pulls more profit than Samsung according to this article which pulls it's source from another location.

http://pocketnow.com/2016/03/14/sony-smartphone-profits

Sony sells a lot of camera sensors, and owns a ton of patents. Take a look at their smartphone sales, and you will see that that department alone is in minus when it comes to profit. Sony sells a lot of TVs, a lot of playstations, cameras and smartphone sensors for cameras.

But their mobile department is a ruin.

 

[vahdyx]

Sony sells a lot of camera sensors, and owns a ton of patents. Take a look at their smartphone sales, and you will see that that department alone is in minus when it comes to profit. Sony sells a lot of TVs, a lot of playstations, cameras and smartphone sensors for cameras.

But their mobile department is a ruin.

So this article is per handset. Doesn't include anything you were talking about.

 

[c0ppo]

So this article is per handset. Doesn't include anything you were talking about.

I know. I've read the article. Only mentions per device profits, but nothing about general profits. First result right out of google: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/sony-first-quarter-mobile-division-struggles/

Sony makes no profits selling devices. Coz after paying for marketing, shipping, etc, they loose money. Only thing keeping them alive is playstation + tv + cameras (and sensors).

 

[vahdyx]

I know. I've read the article. Only mentions per device profits, but nothing about general profits. First result right out of google: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/sony-first-quarter-mobile-division-struggles/

Sony makes no profits selling devices. Coz after paying for marketing, shipping, etc, they loose money. Only thing keeping them alive is playstation + tv + cameras (and sensors).

Ah okay, I see what you're saying. Yeah that makes sense.

 

[kkh786]

For those in the UK..

The HTC 10 is currently £469.99 using the £100 off "SUMMER100" code with Free Express Delivery at the HTC UK Store!

I am very tempted to get one.. but also want to see what the new Nexi and Note 7 look like before committing! Darn the Android itch! Argh!

PS. Available in all 3 colours, the code expires on August 18th!

 

[MRU]

Still haven't got the July patch on my unlocked Taiwan handset. Twitter leakster @llabtoofer apparently suggests HTC are skipping one update to roll into an update due soon.

 

[MRU]

6 hours SOT with 8% remaining. Screen brightness at 80%

 

[jamezr]

6 hours SOT with 8% remaining. Screen brightness at 80%

Very Nice MRU!

 

[epicrayban]

Ouch.


T-Mobile quietly dropped the HTC 10 in July after just 2 months

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08/11/t-mobile-quietly-dropped-htc-10-july-just-2-months/

 

[Fernandez21]

Ouch.


T-Mobile quietly dropped the HTC 10 in July after just 2 months

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08/11/t-mobile-quietly-dropped-htc-10-july-just-2-months/

Wow, I've never even had the chance to see one in person. That is a shame because all the reviews were pretty positive and I like HTC, it'll be a shame if they go under. Hoping the Nexus is a success.

 

[epicrayban]

Wow, I've never even had the chance to see one in person. That is a shame because all the reviews were pretty positive and I like HTC, it'll be a shame if they go under. Hoping the Nexus is a success.

Google really threw them a lifeline... =T

It's sad because the HTC 10 is almost the perfect counter option to the S7/Edge. I think it was just priced way too high. And once again, their camera failings at launch hurt them. It's kind of insane how they haven't learned from that. Every new HTC flagship release is plagued with some form of camera problem where everybody has to ask "wait, but did you get the camera update first?"