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Huawei P20 / P20 Pro
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Sorry to hear that. Since having the Pixel launcher installed it's never reset once for me. Although I have read people having problems with Nova and others so maybe it doesn't play nice with them for whatever reason?
It’s the Huawei clock widget. Remove it before installing your new widget.
For me, it was even accidentally clicking the weather widget. Or trying to open the Pixel Launcher at all.
So my regular P20 arrived today.
I won't do like a full on review as I've said the majority in my posts about the Pro.
What I will say is that the size is basically perfect for my hands. When I got a hands on with the regular P20 before they were released at my friends o2 store, I knew I liked the feel, but having used the Pro a while, and now getting the regular - it just underlines how nice it feels.
The slightly narrower screen and CM or so off the length really makes huge difference. Side by side they don't really look massively different in terms of size but the feel is incredible.
The screen has gone from an OLED in the Pro to an LCD in the regular. Side by side, there's hardly any difference. I think the OLED looks slightly richer but the LCD is very good indeed. Also, the lowest brightness of the regular P20's LCD is actually really dim - Samsung levels of dim (this is a good thing). The Pro never got anywhere near dim enough for bedtime reading for my tastes. I've lost count of how many times I've been lay in bed on the Pro and gone to lower the brightness down only to see it's already at rock bottom.
In contrast though, the reg P20's max brightness doesn't reach that of the Pro. So the Pro will have an advantage in sunlight / bright day conditions.
There is only 4gb or ram in the reg P20, compared to the 6gb in the Pro. So far I haven't noticed much difference, and don't think I really will unless I was to put them side by side and start doing crazy timings of how fast one of them loaded a YouTube video.
.
Camera. Well this has been interesting early on. This was the biggest test really, as if the Pro was that much better then I'd have stuck with it. However, I've taken a number of shots today and I've strangely found that the regular P20 doesn't seem to sharpen the photos quite so much. When compared directly on screen, it seems the P20 takes the ever so slightly more pleasing photo than the Pro.
I even asked my partner, who knows nothing about phones and which one is which and of the 3 random pics I took, he picked the regular P20's photo over the Pro's as the better one each time.
I am going to test night more shortly. It's almost dark here, just waiting for proper darkness and will shoot some. If I find the same kind of results and the regular P20 is matching the Pro in lower light with night mode switched on, then it's gonna be a no brainer to keep the smaller model.
Obviously, the Pro has the incredible zoom functions that the P20 doesn't. And it is really impressive when using the Pro's zoom options and seeing the clarity remain in shots. However, if that's all there is over the regular P20, I'll save the £200 and go for the hardware that suits me much more.
Oh, and that shiney blue is gorgeous too. So much nicer than the black Pro. Twilight wins all, of course - but we all knew that!
Although, I do love that pink gold P20, and if that were an option I would be mighty tempted!
I had some problems getting the Pixel 2 launcher on the P20 for some reason. It was a doddle on the Pro, but the APK's I was downloading for rootless launchers kept either crashing, or failing to install.
Eventually I got the one I wanted but it wasn't easy.
Some random things. The camera interface of the Pro is different to that of the P20. So the P20 has the classic Huawei leather back look behind the camera shutter. The shutter button is also made to look like it's made of silver. I like the look, but the Pro just has a plain black background and the shutter button is just white.
Not sure which I prefer, but odd that they're both different.
The Google Photos issue I was having on my Pro (it lagged when swiping between photos and opening / closing photos etc) is not present on my regular P20. No idea why, but there we have it!
All in all, the regular P20 is really impressing me at the moment. It is unlocked so I have my main sim in there and it's such a nice phone to actually use for texting and social media due to how ergonomically sound it is. I really hope it blows me away in Night Mode like the Pro does and if so, it's a definite keeper!
[doublepost=1525032529][/doublepost]EDIT
Here's the night mode shots.
So.
Which phone do you think took which shot?
The light wasn't quite completely gone, but it was almost dark.
1.
2.
I definitely think one has taken the better photo over the other.
I won't do like a full on review as I've said the majority in my posts about the Pro.
What I will say is that the size is basically perfect for my hands. When I got a hands on with the regular P20 before they were released at my friends o2 store, I knew I liked the feel, but having used the Pro a while, and now getting the regular - it just underlines how nice it feels.
The slightly narrower screen and CM or so off the length really makes huge difference. Side by side they don't really look massively different in terms of size but the feel is incredible.
The screen has gone from an OLED in the Pro to an LCD in the regular. Side by side, there's hardly any difference. I think the OLED looks slightly richer but the LCD is very good indeed. Also, the lowest brightness of the regular P20's LCD is actually really dim - Samsung levels of dim (this is a good thing). The Pro never got anywhere near dim enough for bedtime reading for my tastes. I've lost count of how many times I've been lay in bed on the Pro and gone to lower the brightness down only to see it's already at rock bottom.
In contrast though, the reg P20's max brightness doesn't reach that of the Pro. So the Pro will have an advantage in sunlight / bright day conditions.
There is only 4gb or ram in the reg P20, compared to the 6gb in the Pro. So far I haven't noticed much difference, and don't think I really will unless I was to put them side by side and start doing crazy timings of how fast one of them loaded a YouTube video.
.Camera. Well this has been interesting early on. This was the biggest test really, as if the Pro was that much better then I'd have stuck with it. However, I've taken a number of shots today and I've strangely found that the regular P20 doesn't seem to sharpen the photos quite so much. When compared directly on screen, it seems the P20 takes the ever so slightly more pleasing photo than the Pro.
I even asked my partner, who knows nothing about phones and which one is which and of the 3 random pics I took, he picked the regular P20's photo over the Pro's as the better one each time.
I am going to test night more shortly. It's almost dark here, just waiting for proper darkness and will shoot some. If I find the same kind of results and the regular P20 is matching the Pro in lower light with night mode switched on, then it's gonna be a no brainer to keep the smaller model.
Obviously, the Pro has the incredible zoom functions that the P20 doesn't. And it is really impressive when using the Pro's zoom options and seeing the clarity remain in shots. However, if that's all there is over the regular P20, I'll save the £200 and go for the hardware that suits me much more.
Oh, and that shiney blue is gorgeous too. So much nicer than the black Pro. Twilight wins all, of course - but we all knew that!
Although, I do love that pink gold P20, and if that were an option I would be mighty tempted!
I had some problems getting the Pixel 2 launcher on the P20 for some reason. It was a doddle on the Pro, but the APK's I was downloading for rootless launchers kept either crashing, or failing to install.
Eventually I got the one I wanted but it wasn't easy.
Some random things. The camera interface of the Pro is different to that of the P20. So the P20 has the classic Huawei leather back look behind the camera shutter. The shutter button is also made to look like it's made of silver. I like the look, but the Pro just has a plain black background and the shutter button is just white.
Not sure which I prefer, but odd that they're both different.
The Google Photos issue I was having on my Pro (it lagged when swiping between photos and opening / closing photos etc) is not present on my regular P20. No idea why, but there we have it!
All in all, the regular P20 is really impressing me at the moment. It is unlocked so I have my main sim in there and it's such a nice phone to actually use for texting and social media due to how ergonomically sound it is. I really hope it blows me away in Night Mode like the Pro does and if so, it's a definite keeper!
[doublepost=1525032529][/doublepost]EDIT
Here's the night mode shots.
So.
Which phone do you think took which shot?
The light wasn't quite completely gone, but it was almost dark.
1.
2.
I definitely think one has taken the better photo over the other.
https://www.engadget.com/amp/2018/04/29/huawei-backup-os-for-smartphones/
I'm not sure what I think of this idea. I guess it depends?
I'm not sure what I think of this idea. I guess it depends?
Do you have any pictures of the Blue P20?
I too am thinking of ‘downsizing’ to the regular P20 as, like you, feel that the size of my iPhone X is the sweet spot for me. I don’t mind the black P20 Pro that I have but if I were to ‘downsize’ I would be tempted to switch colours.
Do you have any more thoughts on the camera comparison between the two and do you feel the P20 camera can hold its own compared to the Pro.
Thanks
I too am thinking of ‘downsizing’ to the regular P20 as, like you, feel that the size of my iPhone X is the sweet spot for me. I don’t mind the black P20 Pro that I have but if I were to ‘downsize’ I would be tempted to switch colours.
Do you have any more thoughts on the camera comparison between the two and do you feel the P20 camera can hold its own compared to the Pro.
Thanks
Bottom picture is better...I would say the P20 ProSo my regular P20 arrived today.
I won't do like a full on review as I've said the majority in my posts about the Pro.
What I will say is that the size is basically perfect for my hands. When I got a hands on with the regular P20 before they were released at my friends o2 store, I knew I liked the feel, but having used the Pro a while, and now getting the regular - it just underlines how nice it feels.
The slightly narrower screen and CM or so off the length really makes huge difference. Side by side they don't really look massively different in terms of size but the feel is incredible.
The screen has gone from an OLED in the Pro to an LCD in the regular. Side by side, there's hardly any difference. I think the OLED looks slightly richer but the LCD is very good indeed. Also, the lowest brightness of the regular P20's LCD is actually really dim - Samsung levels of dim (this is a good thing). The Pro never got anywhere near dim enough for bedtime reading for my tastes. I've lost count of how many times I've been lay in bed on the Pro and gone to lower the brightness down only to see it's already at rock bottom.
In contrast though, the reg P20's max brightness doesn't reach that of the Pro. So the Pro will have an advantage in sunlight / bright day conditions.
There is only 4gb or ram in the reg P20, compared to the 6gb in the Pro. So far I haven't noticed much difference, and don't think I really will unless I was to put them side by side and start doing crazy timings of how fast one of them loaded a YouTube video.
Camera. Well this has been interesting early on. This was the biggest test really, as if the Pro was that much better then I'd have stuck with it. However, I've taken a number of shots today and I've strangely found that the regular P20 doesn't seem to sharpen the photos quite so much. When compared directly on screen, it seems the P20 takes the ever so slightly more pleasing photo than the Pro.
I even asked my partner, who knows nothing about phones and which one is which and of the 3 random pics I took, he picked the regular P20's photo over the Pro's as the better one each time.
I am going to test night more shortly. It's almost dark here, just waiting for proper darkness and will shoot some. If I find the same kind of results and the regular P20 is matching the Pro in lower light with night mode switched on, then it's gonna be a no brainer to keep the smaller model.
Obviously, the Pro has the incredible zoom functions that the P20 doesn't. And it is really impressive when using the Pro's zoom options and seeing the clarity remain in shots. However, if that's all there is over the regular P20, I'll save the £200 and go for the hardware that suits me much more.
Oh, and that shiney blue is gorgeous too. So much nicer than the black Pro. Twilight wins all, of course - but we all knew that!
Although, I do love that pink gold P20, and if that were an option I would be mighty tempted!
I had some problems getting the Pixel 2 launcher on the P20 for some reason. It was a doddle on the Pro, but the APK's I was downloading for rootless launchers kept either crashing, or failing to install.
Eventually I got the one I wanted but it wasn't easy.
Some random things. The camera interface of the Pro is different to that of the P20. So the P20 has the classic Huawei leather back look behind the camera shutter. The shutter button is also made to look like it's made of silver. I like the look, but the Pro just has a plain black background and the shutter button is just white.
Not sure which I prefer, but odd that they're both different.
The Google Photos issue I was having on my Pro (it lagged when swiping between photos and opening / closing photos etc) is not present on my regular P20. No idea why, but there we have it!
All in all, the regular P20 is really impressing me at the moment. It is unlocked so I have my main sim in there and it's such a nice phone to actually use for texting and social media due to how ergonomically sound it is. I really hope it blows me away in Night Mode like the Pro does and if so, it's a definite keeper!
[doublepost=1525032529][/doublepost]EDIT
Here's the night mode shots.
So.
Which phone do you think took which shot?
The light wasn't quite completely gone, but it was almost dark.
1.
2.
I definitely think one has taken the better photo over the other.
Bottom pic is the regular P20...
And I only took a few yesterday. Here ya go:
The camera is tricky.
The regular P20 seems to take in more light and often, takes truer to life photos in terms of colours.
I think they are very very evenly matched and I find myself splitting hairs over which one looks better.
Ultimately, they both take amazing photos. But if you want the Pro for that zoom, then stick with it.
If you can live with out it, then go for the normal as there's hardly anything between them.
Wow...it would seem the P20 Pro would take the better pics because of the different camera hardware.
I really want one in Twilight but I am not sure where to find it in the USA. This listing on eBay has it for 899 but not sure if I should pull the trigger. It's shipping from Taiwan and I'm just kind of sketched out but they do allow returns and eBay money back guarantee. Thoughts? I'll attach the link...https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/253578617618
Also there was one on swappa but it sold for like 1100 dollars. Crazy marked up.
Also there was one on swappa but it sold for like 1100 dollars. Crazy marked up.
I just ordered the regular P20 in blue from a reputable eBay reseller here in the states using the eBay discount today... saved $89!
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/04/deal-alert-15-off-ebay-purchases-50-100-off/
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/04/deal-alert-15-off-ebay-purchases-50-100-off/
Well looks like I got screwed on ebay trying to get one of these d*** things! Paid on May 1st still no tracking number or any indication they shipped it. Also EVERY one of their items on their ebay page has been taken down....It's weird because they looked to be a reputable seller and had a lot of decent feedback (even from people purchasing the P20!)They're located in Taiwan so who knows whats going on at this point. I opened a case with ebay (seller is part of money back guarantee at least) so if they don't ship by the 8th, then I should have my money back by the SIXTEENTH. Ugh, so annoying but I should've known better or just paid the markup on Swappa. Be careful out there!
Next P20-Pro-firmware update is supposed to fix the underexposure-bug using HDR compared to firmware 107 which is the latest official firmware - compare the 2 pics.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/development/finally-clt-l29c636b107c-t3781623
official 107 firmware:
upcoming firmware:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/development/finally-clt-l29c636b107c-t3781623
official 107 firmware:
upcoming firmware:
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Yes. Ebay has a lot of scammers lately. Bought nexus 6p recently. End up getting locked account. Bought screen protector with the outer layers only. Lot of hassle buying from the site. Eventually swappa is the best site to deal with. Another thing to watch for oversea purchase is the warranty. Should things go worng. You are holding the phone as a brick.
I think it's a rather hard comparison to make for the camera. Even compared to the iPhone X, the P20 Pro was pulling in the picture more as I was seeing it. So if you're going to be making a camera comparison, you have to decide if you want a more true to vision or algorithmic version of your images.
If you're asking about software? Pixel is less buggy.
That's a tricky comparison.
I loved my Pixel and I think if someone made me choose between the two... hmmm.
They're both such different beasts really.
I think the Pixel has the better 'point and shoot' camera. So you can whip the phone out, snap something and get a good shot almost every time. The P20 / Pro is the better 'camera'. So it will take better photos if you invest the time in taking them. The AI is hit and miss. Sometimes it elevates photos to levels of perfection and pictures look stunning. Other times it does too much.
If you're happy to spend time taking the right shot, or multiple shots, then you will reap the reward.
Pure Android is pure Android. Some won't use anything else. I like it, but it's bare bones. Thankfully we seem to be over that annoying phase where phones that didn't run stock felt a bit laggy / slow in comparison. Technology eh!
The design of the Pixel 2 is off for me. The regular model is my preference and feel in hand is sublime, but the bezels are a problem compared to virtually all other modern flagships. The XL is way way too cumbersome for me, and to tall / wide in general to make for comfortable use. But that's personal preference.
The P20 / Pro design is absolutely sublime. Both models really. It's a no brainer which one is better from a design perspective.
I also quite like EMUI. I've thrown the Pixel launcher on (lol) which undermines me saying that slightly, but that's more the aesthetic. The rest of EMUI and all the added things thrown in - double tap the screen with a knuckle to screen shot, use your knuckle to draw a box on the screen to screen grab that section, the FPS doubling as a nav bar, lots of great things not in stock.
On the flip side though there's a host of Huawei apps I can't delete which is mega annoying.
Trade offs.
For now, I wouldn't want any other Android phone than my P20. I love it. It has really blown me away on every level. The Pixel 2 is also a fantastic phone. But the more time that passes since its launch, the more it starts to feel outdated - particularly the smaller one.
I did.
Surprisingly they're not very good.
Well, in bright daylight they're pretty decent, and very sharp. But when you have anything other than sunshine, it really struggles to capture light well for some reason. It also has no AI when shooting in 40MP mode and it doesn't look better for it.
I ended up purchasing one from a reliable seller on Swappa. It's the black model but whatever, I got a good deal and I'm fine with it... I'm kind of over seeing the Twilight now as beautiful as it is, a black phone is always stealthy and never goes bad. Also I've recently purchased the Lilac Purple S9 and Deep Sea Blue Note 8 so it's been a bit since I've had a "normal" color.
Also about the warranty, I'm pretty screwed with that either way since I live in the US and the phone is simply not offered here, so no matter what I do, it'll be an "overseas model" :/ Oh well, wish me luck!
PS everything ended well with the eBay seller, they refunded my money. They said I would have to wait until late May for the Twilight or pick blue....eh still sketch they removed all items from their store so I opted for the refund and happy I did because I paid way less this way.
Excited to test out this camera!!!
Also about the warranty, I'm pretty screwed with that either way since I live in the US and the phone is simply not offered here, so no matter what I do, it'll be an "overseas model" :/ Oh well, wish me luck!
PS everything ended well with the eBay seller, they refunded my money. They said I would have to wait until late May for the Twilight or pick blue....eh still sketch they removed all items from their store so I opted for the refund and happy I did because I paid way less this way.
Excited to test out this camera!!!
What is so bad about it?
Is there anything in particular that bugs you that's made you switch back?
Imagine using a Fitbit and it keeps de-syncing notifications even though you turned off the battery management. Imagine knowing you can’t pause podcasts for too long because it gets kicked out. Imagine not knowing what is going to crash Nova launcher. And imagine a world where notifications are no better on Android than iOS because they’re basically iOS notifications.
You’re now imagining EMUI.
It also doesn’t help that I realized the beauty mode makes taking real pictures hard and it’s on even if you turn it off.
Sorry to hear.
I've heard that Nova doesn't play well with it. Thankfully I don't like Nova, and the Pixel launcher I'm using is causing me zero issues but it's not good that others don't work as they should.
Re notifications. Not sure what you mean. It's an Android device, so my notifications are as they are on any other Android I've owned?
At least you gave it a shot though!