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Only geeks? Anybody would want to have updated software if it means making the experience better. Sometimes it’s like getting a new phone.

Updates is what drove me mad about samsung devices. You will only get the new android update quickly if you buy the flagship each year. Hardly ideal

Which is why pixel is the android device to get if you want updates.
Does oreo really improves the Android experience that much I must have it?. No. If it did I would of kept my pixel XL which I got for free vs buying my note 8 in full. If what you said was actually true the pixel phones would sell a lot more no matter how limited it is in sale channels.
 
Does oreo really improves the Android experience that much I must have it?. No. If it did I would of kept my pixel XL which I got for free vs buying my note 8 in full. If what you said was actually true the pixel phones would sell a lot more no matter how limited it is in sale channels.
Google don’t market it well enough as to why. If phone sales were everything then the iPhone is the only phone worth buying.

Here in UK you can only get pixel on EE

Neither Samsung or google sell that many phones in comparison to Apple.
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I like the S9 because it doesn't have a notch
Each to their own. I kind of like the notch now. Never been an issue for me personally.
 
Yep

Rumours of a pixel 3 with edge to edge and Face ID type and a notch is likely imo

And I am sure it would be the best Android option out there. I don't use Google services for personal reasons, but it would be the only option I'd look at it if Apple ever failed me in the areas I deem valuable.
 
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Does oreo really improves the Android experience that much I must have it?. No. If it did I would of kept my pixel XL which I got for free vs buying my note 8 in full. If what you said was actually true the pixel phones would sell a lot more no matter how limited it is in sale channels.

That's a fair point that I didn't really think about. Android updates are so minimal that it really doesn't matter. You don't get anything from updating.
 
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Not many moons ago Samsung was considered the laughing stock of Android so what changed? First and foremost, Samsung started spending billions on marketing.

10.2 billion in 2016 which I assume went even higher last year.

https://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-spent-staggering-102-billion-marketing-last-year
Well they May have been considered the laughing stock but they were still selling more than all the other OEM’s combined. Also many of the purists still winge on about Samsung’s software.
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Google don’t market it well enough as to why. If phone sales were everything then the iPhone is the only phone worth buying.

Here in UK you can only get pixel on EE

Neither Samsung or google sell that many phones in comparison to Apple.
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Each to their own. I kind of like the notch now. Never been an issue for me personally.
Samsung are the biggest selling phone manufacturer in the world. Even if they are selling more low end devices they still sell about 60-80 million notes and S series phones a year.
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The screenshot you offered as proof is from at least 3 months ago so again, are you claiming the S6 has already received it? IF not when it happens, wake me.. Even if it does eventually get updated do you really believe that's an efficient time frame?

--Nexus 5X - 3 year old phone was updated to Oreo same day the Pixel 2 was.
--iPhone 6 - 3 year old phone was updated to iOS 11 the same day the iPhone 8 was.

Samsung is proud of the fact that it takes months upon months upon months and maybe even a year or more to get their phones updated?
I doubt the S8/note 8 has even received Oreo yet let alone 3 year old phones.

Sold my note 8 in December and it was still on the August security patch....
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Only geeks? Anybody would want to have updated software if it means making the experience better. Sometimes it’s like getting a new phone.

Updates is what drove me mad about samsung devices. You will only get the new android update quickly if you buy the flagship each year. Hardly ideal

Which is why pixel is the android device to get if you want updates.
Wouldn’t even say Samsung flagships get it quickly. It’s at least 6 months later.
 
Well they May have been considered the laughing stock but they were still selling more than all the other OEM’s combined. Also many of the purists still winge on about Samsung’s software.
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Samsung are the biggest selling phone manufacturer in the world. Even if they are selling more low end devices they still sell about 60-80 million notes and S series phones a year.
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I doubt the S8/note 8 has even received Oreo yet let alone 3 year old phones.

Sold my note 8 in December and it was still on the August security patch....
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Wouldn’t even say Samsung flagships get it quickly. It’s at least 6 months later.
I mean more when you buy the brand new Samsung each other it normally comes with the latest update

Samsung flagships I don’t think sell anywhere close to that. As far as I remember they only sold around 10 million S8 and S8 plus combined. Note 8 was even smaller sales amount.
 
Well they May have been considered the laughing stock but they were still selling more than all the other OEM’s combined. Also many of the purists still winge on about Samsung’s software.
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Samsung are the biggest selling phone manufacturer in the world. Even if they are selling more low end devices they still sell about 60-80 million notes and S series phones a year.
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I doubt the S8/note 8 has even received Oreo yet let alone 3 year old phones.

Sold my note 8 in December and it was still on the August security patch....
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Wouldn’t even say Samsung flagships get it quickly. It’s at least 6 months later.

A note 8 with August security patch with who? I think my Note 8 on Verizon came with September. It gotten an update every month for the security updates with Verizon
The S8 just started getting it after they stopped it early February
 
Samsung flagships I don’t think sell anywhere close to that. As far as I remember they only sold around 10 million S8 and S8 plus combined. Note 8 was even smaller sales amount.

For as much as Samsung spends on marketing and since you can get them @ sales pricing before they are even shipping newly announced phones (let alone the sales dumps in 6 months time), you'd figure they'd sell more but, nope..

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For as much as Samsung spends on marketing and since you can get them @ sales pricing before they are even shipping, you'd figure they'd sell more but, nope..

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Seller the most doesn't equal to being better, remember that.
Also that graphic is comparing all iPhones sold since probably 2007 agaisn't the S8's and Notes
 
Tweaking and stuff is fun, but at the end of the day I just want a phone that works as its supposed to ALL THE TIME. You can't really say that about most (if not all) Android devices after 6+ months of use. When it comes down to it, Android is not as well-written as iOS. Period. Stability is a problem. I can deal with a less-stable computer, but I need my phone to be stable all the time. If I have to give up the ability to tweak things, that's fine.

Nerds will be nerds though.

I wouldn't say Android is unreliable. More so that every manufacturer tweaks it and rarely if ever provide updates or patches. So, there is no uniformity. If Google took full control of Android from the beginning. It would be a better, regularly patched uniform experience. Let the people customize the OS. Snap the manufacturers in line.

Could you imagine the mess Windows would be. If Dell, HP, Lenovo &c all had their own customized setup. That you had to wait for them to package their own Windows build with security patches and upgrades from MS.
 
Seller the most doesn't equal to being better, remember that.
Also that graphic is comparing all iPhones sold since probably 2007 agaisn't the S8's and Notes

In reference to your posts to that forum member, selling doesn’t necessarily equal to being the best, but we all know the iPhone has a very strong history of making devices that last, durable and are continually supported for approximately five years. There is a reason the iPhone has the strongest resale market over Android devices.
 
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A note 8 with August security patch with who? I think my Note 8 on Verizon came with September. It gotten an update every month for the security updates with Verizon
The S8 just started getting it after they stopped it early February
O2 in the UK.
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I mean more when you buy the brand new Samsung each other it normally comes with the latest update

Samsung flagships I don’t think sell anywhere close to that. As far as I remember they only sold around 10 million S8 and S8 plus combined. Note 8 was even smaller sales amount.
The S series sells about 40-50 million during the year and note about 20 million. This report was in August and the S8/S8 Plus had already sold 20 million.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/bgr.com/2017/08/03/samsung-galaxy-s8-sales-july-2017-20-million/amp/
 
In reference to your posts to that forum member, selling doesn’t necessarily equal to being the best, but we all know the iPhone has a very strong history of making devices that last, durable and are continually supported for approximately five years. There is a reason the iPhone has the strongest resale market over Android devices.
Unfortunately that's not what I see when navigating through these forums, all I see are issues, bugs and performance hits to devices less than 1 year old. That argument is so overused that it's false.
 
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Unfortunately that's not what I see when navigating through these forums, all I see are issues, bugs and performance hits to devices less than 1 year old. That argument is so overused that it's false.

Been to any Samsung forums? Pixel forums? LG forums?

Of course most of what you are going to see on an Internet forum is people posting about issues, that should be common knowledge and the iPhone is no different.

Overall though I think iPhone are far more stable and reliable -v- any Samsung on the planet.
 
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Anyone can read your post and can see your post history. It's pretty clear and comes off as sexist. That's fine if that is how you want to portray yourself, but it certainly doesn't lend to your "grown men" comment.

Now your stalking me and reading my post history? Very amusing. So because I posted my observation, I’m a sexist? That’s a good one. Sounds like you’re triggered and looking for ways to belittle me. All this effort you’re putting into a simple post I made about my workplace. Get over it and move on.
 
Been to any Samsung forums? Pixel forums? LG forums?

Of course most of what you are going to see on an Internet forum is people posting about issues, that should be common knowledge and the iPhone is no different.

Overall though I think iPhone are far more stable and reliable -v- any Samsung on the planet.

I would have agreed with you until iOS 11.
I would have added iOS 7 but Android was having some issues itself during that time.
 
Unfortunately that's not what I see when navigating through these forums, all I see are issues, bugs and performance hits to devices less than 1 year old. That argument is so overused that it's false.

You do realize a tech forum is a place to Congregate over issues and problems with devices? You can’t formulate how much of a problem a device is experiencing Just based reading on here. Tech forums are a vocal monitory, not the majority.. Everything I said about the iPhone having five years of updates and a strong used resale market is entirely accurate over Android. Fact. You interjecting what I said is false is merely opposing my post without any logical support proving otherwise.
 
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It is very true.

You're embarrassing yourself.. I know plenty of tech people with iPhones. One has a pHD in computer science and teaches at a major So. Cal university. I suppose he is a low tech person in your opinion as well?

Please do share your technical skill level with us all since you've chosen to make such absurd statements..
 
You're embarrassing yourself.. I know plenty of tech people with iPhones. One has a pHD in computer science and teaches at a major So. Cal university. I suppose he is a low tech person in your opinion as well?

Please do share your technical skill level with us all since you've chosen to make such absurd statements..

He/she is a master of widgets and app launchers.
 
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