iPhone X I feel defensive as a iPhone X owner

[kasakka]

While the s8 to x is a good comparison, the x should last for 3-4 years thanks to Apple support. Samsung will abandon the s8 within 2 years.

While the Android update cycle is unfortunate (but should get better with Oreo and Project Treble in 2018 phones), it doesn't mean the phone suddenly stops working or anything. My GF still happily uses a Oneplus X which is stuck on Android 6 and there are very few features on my OP3 with Android 7 that I feel are worth the upgrade and Android 8 doesn't really do anything to improve the UI.

If Apple keeps their throttling ******** you are more likely to hit that before the age of the OS becomes an actual issue.

 

[LaoBron]

iMessage iMessage iMessage something android will never get right. It’s something that has always brought me back from nexus devices. Don’t be the guy that makes the group message turn green then can’t send 4K quality videos iver text message. No matter how high end or better you think the android phones are the flagship still sends 280p videos through text. iMessage!!!

 

[dazz87]

Can I ask you again in about 10.5 months, when you are running at 50% speed?

So true....

 

[Altis]

That’s some fine humor right there. Very amusing.

Yes, it is quite funny when despite all the data, evidence, and even an admission and explanation, someone still manages to assert it must be false solely based on having not noticed it.

Not a shred of counter-evidence, just the assertion it's false.

The throttling is real.

 

[aevan]

Can I ask you again in about 10.5 months, when you are running at 50% speed?

You really believe that ****, don’t you?
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In almost every aspect the iPhone is behind an Android counter-part

....where I stopped reading or caring.

1. Google “Android Forums”
2. Click first link
3. Have fun and goodbye

 

[nouveau_redneck]

One thing that Apple/iOS clearly has a massive advantage over Google/Android is privacy and security.

There are other aspects of Apple/iOS that I prefer as well, but honestly, I'd kill to have a Samsung phone running iOS. iPhone 10 with it's small screen and notch is heading down the wrong road.

 

[Apple_Robert]

For the first time in 10 years of owning an iPhone I feel defensive about owning one. The most expensive phone on the planet should be the best phone too as it has always been. However this time around the competition has significantly caught up and one could easily make the case of the competition surpassing the iPhone X. In almost every aspect the iPhone is behind an Android counter-part

Camera - the Pixel XL beats the iPhone X in most real life use cases - portrait mode, indoor lightinf, low lighting and sharpness. Yes the iPhone X is the only phone capable 4k at 60fps but you would eat up that 256GB fast. The unlimited free storage on Pixel is the added cherry on the cake.

OS - iOS 11 has fast earned the reputation of the buggiest and clunkiest iOS ever. Compare this with the increasing polish and ever improving feature set of Android Oreo - Google Lens, better stock apps, better notification systems, better AR and Google Photos. Having a beast of A11 is of no value of it is hamstrung by a buggy OS

Design - one has to agree the Galaxy S8 is the best designed phone of the year and has been ahead of the iPhone for a few years now.

Assistant - Siri vs Google Assistant - no contest. Google assistant is getting better by the day as more people continue using it

Software innovation - I'll pick Google Lens over Animoji any day. MotionStills and Photos an are a few examples of genuinely useful apps. An average iPhone user is far more dependant on the Google and has at least 5-6 Google apps.

Battery Life - heard instances of far better battery life on the pixel vs the iphone

Payment system - Samsung Pay is a far better and wider accepted payment system globally than Apple Pay and they have been very pro-active in introducing this to countries where Apple Pay isn't present.

Screen - Yes the iPhone X has the best OLED display (made by Samsung) but there are people who prefer the Samsung colour pop and not having the notch is an added bonus.

So in almost every area which matters the iPhone X is second best. Having to pay first class prices for a second class phone makes me defensive. It is no wonder that almost none of the tech publications in the year end flagship smart phone round-up mention the iPhone as the winner.

It won't be long before a single Android phone incorporates all the best features into a single phone for a much lesser price.

Owning an iPhone meant owning the best phone money could buy which sadly isn't true any more.

There is no reason to feel defensive. You are not the official spokesperson for Apple. And even if you were, you don't owe anyone else a justification for your purchase of the iPhone. If you are truly that insecure, sell the phone, and determine in yourself, that no matter what, you are going to let what other people might think and say determine the course of your day to day life.

 

[Tinmania]

For the first time in 10 years of owning an iPhone I feel defensive about owning one. The most expensive phone on the planet should be the best phone too as it has always been. However this time around the competition has significantly caught up and one could easily make the case of the competition surpassing the iPhone X. In almost every aspect the iPhone is behind an Android counter-part

Camera - the Pixel XL beats the iPhone X in most real life use cases - portrait mode, indoor lightinf, low lighting and sharpness. Yes the iPhone X is the only phone capable 4k at 60fps but you would eat up that 256GB fast. The unlimited free storage on Pixel is the added cherry on the cake.

OS - iOS 11 has fast earned the reputation of the buggiest and clunkiest iOS ever. Compare this with the increasing polish and ever improving feature set of Android Oreo - Google Lens, better stock apps, better notification systems, better AR and Google Photos. Having a beast of A11 is of no value of it is hamstrung by a buggy OS

Design - one has to agree the Galaxy S8 is the best designed phone of the year and has been ahead of the iPhone for a few years now.

Assistant - Siri vs Google Assistant - no contest. Google assistant is getting better by the day as more people continue using it

Software innovation - I'll pick Google Lens over Animoji any day. MotionStills and Photos an are a few examples of genuinely useful apps. An average iPhone user is far more dependant on the Google and has at least 5-6 Google apps.

Battery Life - heard instances of far better battery life on the pixel vs the iphone

Payment system - Samsung Pay is a far better and wider accepted payment system globally than Apple Pay and they have been very pro-active in introducing this to countries where Apple Pay isn't present.

Screen - Yes the iPhone X has the best OLED display (made by Samsung) but there are people who prefer the Samsung colour pop and not having the notch is an added bonus.

So in almost every area which matters the iPhone X is second best. Having to pay first class prices for a second class phone makes me defensive. It is no wonder that almost none of the tech publications in the year end flagship smart phone round-up mention the iPhone as the winner.

It won't be long before a single Android phone incorporates all the best features into a single phone for a much lesser price.

Owning an iPhone meant owning the best phone money could buy which sadly isn't true any more.

So buy both an S8 and Pixel, since that seems to be what you need to replace the iPhone X.



Mike

 

[the future]

There are only three possibilities: OP does not own an iPhone X, OP has an agenda or OP is out of his mind. All his single points are highly debatable and he even has to choose several different Android models to compare individual features, which is just laughable. And of course the features where the X is clearly ahead of all other phones don‘t really matter; well how convenient. Truth is: As a complete package, right now, the X is absolutely unbeatable.

 

[Roadstar]

While the s8 to x is a good comparison, the x should last for 3-4 years thanks to Apple support. Samsung will abandon the s8 within 2 years.

Not really. Samsung phones typically get two major Android updates, but the updates won’t completely stop there (i.e. it’s not actually abandoned) as there will still be security updates. At least S5 and S6 devices are still receiving security updates and there have been also rumors about S6 receiving Oreo as well. However, that S6 Oreo is something I believe only when I see it, but otherwise you can’t really claim that Samsung abandons devices within two years unless you completely ignore security updates.

While iOS used to have a definite update advantage, now with iOS updates adding new phones to the throttling list, there’s now an incentive for more and more people to dodge updates, which in turn has undeniable security ramifications as Apple doesn’t really do separate security updates for iOS. It’s the full release or nothing, regardless of how badly that full release runs on the older hardware. It’ll be interesting to see how long it’ll take until the current X is added to the throttling list. For the iPhone 7 generation it took only a year.

 

[falainber]

Ridiculous, my 2yr old 6S with original battery isn’t throttling. Fake news, replace your battery

Apple admitted that they do throttle. You are probably the last one left who is in denial. Maybe you just don't use your phone much? That would work too.
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One thing that Apple/iOS clearly has a massive advantage over Google/Android is privacy and security.

There are other aspects of Apple/iOS that I prefer as well, but honestly, I'd kill to have a Samsung phone running iOS. iPhone 10 with it's small screen and notch is heading down the wrong road.

Ironically, only iOS users complain about Android privacy and security.

 

[Roadstar]

iMessage iMessage iMessage something android will never get right. It’s something that has always brought me back from nexus devices. Don’t be the guy that makes the group message turn green then can’t send 4K quality videos iver text message. No matter how high end or better you think the android phones are the flagship still sends 280p videos through text. iMessage!!!

Well that depends on where you live. In the US iMessage can be and often is a dealbreaker and Google’s messaging strategy is a mess (it would help if their attention span with messaging apps exceeded that of a goldfish), but in Europe pretty much everything happens in WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger. I’m third year into having iMessage completely disabled also when on iPhone (as no one I know is using it anyway) and I really haven’t missed a thing. Texts and multimedia get transferred with WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger without compromising on the quality.

 

[nouveau_redneck]

The masses could care less about both privacy and security.

 

[LaoBron]

Well that depends on where you live. In the US iMessage can be and often is a dealbreaker and Google’s messaging strategy is a mess (it would help if their attention span with messaging apps exceeded that of a goldfish), but in Europe pretty much everything happens in WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger. I’m third year into having iMessage completely disabled also when on iPhone (as no one I know is using it anyway) and I really haven’t missed a thing. Texts and multimedia get transferred with WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger without compromising on the quality.

So I would have to rely on third party apps? No thanks

 

[Tor Eckman]

Hamstrung by a buggy OS. Since when did Apple users ever get into the spec race ? What is real life application of that raw processing power ?

It won't matter how fast the CPU is in the X, in 18 months it will start crawling after the A13 chip comes out in the newest phone.Apple are going to start getting more backlash from crippling 2 year old phones then they are from Samsung having a slightly better camera.

 

[aevan]

So true....

What is? After 10.5 months? Come on.

Apple admitted that they do throttle. You are probably the last one left who is in denial.

....when the battery can no longer handle the spikes in the power requests. This doesn’t happen automatically after a designated period of time. My old 6S still doesn’t throttle after 1.5 years. It’s not denial, it’s fact.

 

[Roadstar]

What is? After 10.5 months? Come on.



....when the battery can no longer handle the spikes in the power requests. This doesn’t happen automatically after a designated period of time. My old 6S still doesn’t throttle after 1.5 years. It’s not denial, it’s fact.

But unfortunately it seems to happen before Apple's diagnostics also agree that the battery should be replaced. I'm not too excited about the idea of having a premium priced phone where battery-based throttling kicks in, but the manufacturer refuses to swap in a new battery even if I'm willing to pay them for it.

 

[aevan]

but the manufacturer refuses to swap in a new battery even if I'm willing to pay them for it.

Are you saying that your phone is throttled and Apple is refusing to replace your battery even if you pay? Or is this hearsay?

 

[Strelok]

Why did you buy the iPhone X? Seems it was the wrong choice based on your OP. I personally couldn't care less what others think of my phone, I bought it for myself to enjoy not for others.

 

[Shanghaichica]

So I would have to rely on third party apps? No thanks

What’s app is a very stable app.

 

[Roadstar]

Are you saying that your phone is throttled and Apple is refusing to replace your battery?

Haven't had that happen personally, but there are reports of that exact thing happening in other threads on this forum and also elsewhere (e.g. https://twitter.com/toddthomas/status/942800470191439872).

 

[BugeyeSTI]

Apple admitted that they do throttle. You are probably the last one left who is in denial. Maybe you just don't use your phone much? That would work too.
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Ironically, only iOS users complain about Android privacy and security.

What part of if your battery isn’t screwed, the phone won’t throttle that you don’t understand? If you’re battery is worn out it throttles if it’s fine it doesn’t. Get a new battery through Apple or 3rd party and no more throttling... Easy to understand right?

 

[Tor Eckman]

Ridiculous, my 2yr old 6S with original battery isn’t throttling. Fake news, replace your battery

I agree, my 6s is still holding in there, but it is the first two generation old iPhone that hasn't turned into a turd as soon as the latest OS was released.

 

[LaoBron]

What’s app is a very stable app.

So I would have to hope the other person is using WhatsApp too or convince them to download. Sounds like inconvenience.

 

[BugeyeSTI]

I agree, my 6s is still holding in there, but it is the first two generation old iPhone that hasn't turned into a turd as soon as the latest OS was released.

I’m with you on that. First phone I absolutely had no complaints about.. Still a great device