Hardware is useless unless the software can back it up. Sadly it can't anymore.
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iPhone X I feel defensive as a iPhone X owner
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Hardware is useless unless the software can back it up. Sadly it can't anymore.
To reiterate to everyone, I have no hate for Android or their users. But this is one of the handful of things that keeps me from switching over. It's not that Apple doesn't track or keep data, it's that it's not their business model to sell or otherwise exploit my information. Android has plenty of cool aspects and in many ways is equal or better to iOS. But with so many companies trying to own me, I'm going to fight it as long as possible. Android users must concede this point to iOS. Google isn't providing Android for free for the good of humanity.
Google is, in fact, evil. Therefore, their operating system and infrastructure are as well. And their users are the willing, shortsighted, brainless commodity that this evil enterprise exploits.
If you use Google to search you are already being tracked. A company with Apple's resources should have way better solutions than hiding behind the excuse of consumer privacy for their lack of innovation in software. The stock apple apps on the iPhone have been ignored for so long they have become a joke. A better email or stocks app doesn't require a breach of privacy.
I do NOT use Google to search generally. I've seen what happens when I do. Consumer privacy is not an excuse to do anything, it's just a given with them generally. I didn't know you were referring to their stock apps as the example for a lack of innovation. I, like most people iOS veterans, don't use most of the "apps" from Apple. I think they are really there to offer something, but knowing full well they are heavily invested in app developers in their ecosystem. I wouldn't call that a lack of innovation. I call not improving certain aspects of their underlying OS as lacking. Maps is pretty integral in the phone and needs to improve. Siri is comical. But these are specific apps, I think the OS is pretty good for the most part. It sounds like you've made up your mind and you should just go with your decision. Different things matter to different people. You shouldn't give a **** what me or anyone else thinks.
I agree it’s not easy to convince someone to download and use another messaging app. However surely you must have people in your contact list who don’t have iPhones?
what can’t the note 8 do?
For me the things it can’t do is connect to my Apple Watch and talk to my other Apple devices. However in terms of functionality what can’t it do apart from Animojis and Portrait Lighting and shooting in 4K at 60 FPS.
And I also see the word 'Innovation' misused out of context regularly on a tech forum. Not to mention, very few companies can put out the product that Apple does, given that they do charge a premium price point. I don't have an issue buying Apple products, considering their hardware standards are above most.
Genuinely curious as well as to what you think an iPhone can do that a Note 8 can’t do at this point.
Yep, it's may not be the original quality, but still a perfectly usable quality, unlike the excessively compressed and pixelated mess that's delivered by MMS.
I'm curious as well, especially if it's something else than connecting to an Apple Watch/TV.
The iPhone 8 plus is better than the iPhone X. The iPhone 8 plus is cheaper, has better battery life, better screen, runs the same iOS and has the same features, same cpu, same camera.
It has a bigger screen but not a better screen. The plus doesn’t have the same camera. The telephoto lens on the X has OIS and a lower aperture. The front facing camera on the plus can’t do portrait pictures.
However it depends on what features are most important for you.
If the iPhone X gestures could be enabled on the 8 plus I’d probably swap out my X for an 8 plus or at least seriously consider it.
The plus is kind of unwieldy. I have a bag but holding it was tricky at times. I do like the more svelte size of the X I have to admit. I say this as someone who’s been carrying phablets since 2012 too.
iPhone X is a higher plateau, is the next level, is a higher standard. The iPhone 8 plus is a great phone without doubt.
Not to mention, every Android phone in existence is a direct clone of the iPhone.
Samsung copies Apple verbatim and somehow Samsung is the innovator? LOL. Not everyone on MR is 17 years old peeps.
Umm, seems like you haven't been paying attention lately. While it's quite obvious that Samsung did copy Apple's designs back in the day, nowadays they seem to be the ones introducing new stuff first. The S8 series with almost all screen front had been available for months when the iPhone X launched and it's already the third year of non-existent side bezels for Samsung while Apple was happy riding the iPhone 6 design for years.
Wait. You think thin bezels is "innovation"? LOL. "Introducing new stuff first"? Thin metal bezels? That's the Samsung claim to fame? That's the best you can do? How innovative! Samsung invented the picture frame!
The thing the Android people will never understand is that core Apple users would never consider an Android phone. That is going to become very apparent in the next 12-24 months now that the carrier subsidies are over and Apple is releasing base iPhone's from $349-$549 and premium iPhones from $800-$1300.
All those people with $0 iPhone 5C's and $79 iPhone 6S's off Craigslist....that's the type of low-end consumers who are being squeezed out of the Apple ecosystem and straight over to the crappy Android world of lousy hardware and crappy cellular providers. How innovative. And those are the people recently flooding this forum whining about Apple and talking up their awful Android's. Disenfranchised malcontents priced-out of their BMW's straight into a Kia. "Look at my Kia! It's better than my BMW! I'm so happy!" Sure you are, sure you are.
This is EXAXCLY the reason I stay with an IPhone. I’m sure Android will continue to get better and better. My son has an S8 that he loves and even the promise of the latest IPhone was not enough for him to switch and that is ok. As I have said elsewhere on these boards, as long as the bulk of my info stay on the phone and Apple’s business model makes money from the hardware, not the information, I am staying with Apple.
Yeah Apple tend to sit back and see what is popular with other manufacturers and then pick the best bits to develop. Samsung and the Pixel lines have really shaken the market up of late introducing the next level of features we are coming up expect in future phones. Those of us who prefer iOS just have to wait and see what Apple decide to introduce.
You keep saying this over and over again. Let's have the detail. Here, here's a template. Show us the Top 10 market shake-up's and next level features coming from Android that we iPhone users are missing out on:
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Detail. Enough with the boiler plate generalities. Detail. Top 10 Next-Level Features. Go.
As I live in an area of very patchy 3G coverage I find iMessage isn't worth the hassle when it's connected to your mobile number, so I always disable it and use it only with email address between iPad and mac etc (and very rarely at that). I can see how if you live in an area with great 4G coverage and have a mobile plan with a ton of internet data usage it might be quite useful for sending pictures without incurring cost every time, but like you say WhatsApp and FB messenger also do that pretty nicely.
Why?
Do you enjoy the phone, do you enjoy iOS or that it works well for you? Why be defensive on your own purchase decisions. I don't care of a given phone beats out the iPhone on some metric, to me its the complete package. You mention multiple phones that beat out the X on each feature. Well doesn't that make the combined iPhone X better then the rest because it has an awesome camera, better front facing camera, better processor. You're combining multuple phones to compare against each feature.
The bottom line is I like what the X has to offer and I don't care what others say, or think. Its my money, my decision and I don't need to be defensive.