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iPhone SE (2016) I kind of want an iPhone SE now.

blairh said:
I have normal sized male adult hands. I can easily reach the top bezel area of the SE body. Obviously the bottom bezel area is easy to reach with a thumb. The 5.4" iPhone should be only slightly wider and taller than the SE. I'm confident that any adult male at the very least will be able to easily navigate all dimensions of this phone with one hand.
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Are you also taking into account swiping gestures from the top and bottom edges?

The SE (and earlier) was designed for this. If it was easy (for most people) to do this on a bigger screen, why wouldn’t the original size have been bigger? And what about this iphone 5 ad?

It may be easy for you, but I also have normal sized hands and it’s not easy for me. And according to this ad, apparently Apple believes that for most people the 5/SE screen size is the ideal for one-handed use.

Also take into account, it can’t be just for average full grown male hands. It also has to be for females with smaller hands.
 
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subjonas said:
Are you also taking into account swiping gestures from the top and bottom edges?

The SE (and earlier) was designed for this. If it was easy (for most people) to do this on a bigger screen, why wouldn’t the original size have been bigger? And what about this iphone 5 ad?

It may be easy for you, but I also have normal sized hands and it’s not easy for me. And according to this ad, apparently Apple believes that for most people the 5/SE screen size is the ideal for one-handed use.

Also take into account, it can’t be just for average full grown male hands. It also has to be for females with smaller hands.
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The original size wasn't bigger because smartphone screens were not very large for the early years of this product category. It wasn't until Android OEM's released larger screens where Apple started to realize they were losing sales to consumers who wanted this. Hence why Apple eventually made the leap to both 4.7" and 5.5" screens.

My thumb can easily reach all four corners of the SE.

That iPhone ad was nothing but trying to save face as they lost out on sales to larger phones. Not that long ago Samsung was making ads about how their phones still have headphone jacks (compared to how iPhones don't) and now we have no headphone jack on the new Note line.

Yes, people with smaller hands will struggle with the 5.4" iPhone if they want to use it one handed. It's not a phone that will satisfy everyone. But it will be a much better option versus the current 4.7" line.
 
blairh said:
The original size wasn't bigger because smartphone screens were not very large for the early years of this product category. It wasn't until Android OEM's released larger screens where Apple started to realize they were losing sales to consumers who wanted this. Hence why Apple eventually made the leap to both 4.7" and 5.5" screens.

My thumb can easily reach all four corners of the SE.

That iPhone ad was nothing but trying to save face as they lost out on sales to larger phones. Not that long ago Samsung was making ads about how their phones still have headphone jacks (compared to how iPhones don't) and now we have no headphone jack on the new Note line.

Yes, people with smaller hands will struggle with the 5.4" iPhone if they want to use it one handed. It's not a phone that will satisfy everyone. But it will be a much better option versus the current 4.7" line.
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o_O Agree to disagree, I suppose.
 
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I love the SE. I've been using one for years and also got a new 128 GB factory unlocked model when Apple sold some recently on their website. So awesome for travel, light and small, and not high stakes if I lose it. I'm amazed at how well they still rock the latest iOS - I am not a phone fanatic and don't care about playing games and such. I would love to see an updated model in this small form.
 
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kamikazeeMC said:
I miss my 5 and 5s, almost picked up a brand new SE, but found a X for 500 less unused. If only they would make a flagship level SE.
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They will never do that as in Apple's opinion (I can only presume) having a flagship level SE would only butcher the sales of their true flagship devices (Xs/Xs Max - or whatever is available at the time). I would take the opposite view in that not having a mid-priced phone ($US450-600 in my book) is hurting them more and significantly lowering their opportunities for the selling of services like iCloud etc.

Longer term its not that far away where Apple is going to deprecate out the iPhone 6/6s/7 from their OS support so they are solely reliant on the sales of the iPhone X and newer to carry their service sales. The Xr isn't cheap enough to convince anyone of anything outside of someone buying an iPhone regardless. The vast majority of people buying the Xr would have bought a Xs anyway if the Xr didn't exist.
 
subjonas said:
Are you also taking into account swiping gestures from the top and bottom edges?

The SE (and earlier) was designed for this. If it was easy (for most people) to do this on a bigger screen, why wouldn’t the original size have been bigger? And what about this iphone 5 ad?

It may be easy for you, but I also have normal sized hands and it’s not easy for me. And according to this ad, apparently Apple believes that for most people the 5/SE screen size is the ideal for one-handed use.

Also take into account, it can’t be just for average full grown male hands. It also has to be for females with smaller hands.
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So who remembers this ad? Clearly not Apple.:rolleyes:
 
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3:16 said:
So who remembers this ad? Clearly not Apple.:rolleyes:
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I’m not sure what point you’re making. Our discussion was about what a true one-handed phone size is, which doesn’t have anything to do with whether or not Apple makes such a phone currently.
 
turbineseaplane said:
Fully agree..

For me, they could even just bump the internal specs a bit and keep the same chassis.
I find this casing to be timeless and gorgeous.
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I’d also take that... better camera, processor and same chassis for a fair price even with Touch ID and maybe a similar screen with slightly less bezels (doesn’t even have to be all screen) and I’d buy that.
 
oVerboost said:
I’d also take that... better camera, processor and same chassis for a fair price even with Touch ID and maybe a similar screen with slightly less bezels (doesn’t even have to be all screen) and I’d buy that.
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All I care about is updated processor (so it can handle newer versions of iOS) and updated radio (so it can handle all the newer bands). A better camera would be good but I can totally live without it. I'm fine with the bezels and the rest of the design staying exactly the same.
 
The SE probably have 1-2 years of life left. Maybe it can still run iOS 14. Regardless, getting a used one at just $100 is a bargain now. I’d recommend anyone to hunt in eBay for one.
 
I went from SE to XS Max. My wife has my old SE. Everytime I pick it up, it feels like a toy. I don't thin I could go back to the small screen. But I loved the phone while I had it.
 
The SE feels great to play around with after being on a phablet

But having tons of screen makes things easier for utility
 
There's a big jump between SE size and 6/7/8 size, and unfortunately a game-breaking one for a lot of us.

I'm fairly active with activities and often have a bag, tool, binder, or something else in one hand and need to be able to hold a phone in the other. I have average sized hands, and any model from 6 on just doesn't fit into my palm and I can't reach the corners without an uncomfortable streeeetch.

I held onto my 4S as long as possible, now holding on to SE as long as possible. I really would love to be dazzled by a new phone and pass this SE on to someone, but I've been disappointed another year in a row. Sigh :(
 
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for me iphone 6 7 and 8 have the perfect size had an SE but after a few months i wanted a bigger screen
 
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I’m currently playing with one. Trust me, you don’t. It’s performance and lack of features, as well as its camera and non water resistance is a huge downer compared to the newest models.
 
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turbineseaplane said:
I totally disagree with this - just to add another data point.
Been my daily driver for 3 years+ and it’s plenty fast (and I do have an XR in the house to compare with)
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Maybe for you, but it’s performance is noticeably sluggish to the XR in my day to day uses.
 
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