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iPhone X I think it's finally time we stop being used as sheep
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To add, Apple can sell these phones with all sorts of issues - wi-fi gate, charging-gate...what else? I'm holding off buying an XS Max until these issues have been resolved.
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DING DING DING DING..agree. Wait 'till next year. The cost of iPhones, and intro of XI, will remain.
Remember people , you don’t need a new phone every year. I’ve not bought latest for the last 3 years, plenty of choices . Apple is banking that a phone is a status symbol and people , certain people will keep buying even if prices go up.
Not much different when Microsoft got greedy. They kept raising the prices of software knowing people would buy. This is fine.....to a point ... first someone needs to provide competition... until such time prepare to pay more and more. That was the good thing about jobs , he wanted apple to be for the average users. Apple apple is becoming for the elite .
Not much different when Microsoft got greedy. They kept raising the prices of software knowing people would buy. This is fine.....to a point ... first someone needs to provide competition... until such time prepare to pay more and more. That was the good thing about jobs , he wanted apple to be for the average users. Apple apple is becoming for the elite .
but but but I have to come and tell 'you' how much I hate apple and why 'you' should not buy the next iphone.
How long has Apple been in existence?
How long have they charged the "premiums" they have?
The entire thing was a salesman, Steve Jobs, being a salesman and selling, selling, selling. He told you things his products did in a way to make you want it. The products hardly ever did anything more than anything else. The whole keynote and presentation was a way for that man to stand up and speak to hundreds, thousands or millions of people and sell.
Soon it will be very much like McDonalds.
There is no face to the franchise, it is a logo and you just go to the logo. And you know what? That's ok.
A billion people buying Apple products doesn't directly effect you unless you allow it, same with burgers, Coca Cola, or whatever else millions of people all buy the exact same thing of.
Just let a person do what that person is going to do.
And yet the OP tells people they are “entitled” if they get so irate about something as “stupid” the $1,000+ iPad Pro bend situation. So what’s the difference between being against the XR and suddenly defending Apple over an obvious design and manufacturing flaw?!?
I’ve flip flopped a LOT, especially as Apple moves into practices that make me gag and my toes curl. However, I am determined to vote with my wallet and positive I’ll start transitioning away from Apple this year. The 8+ is a stop gap which I will trade in for something else. And as long as
keep gimping products, cheapening build quality, and becoming less customer friendly, I’ll continue to learn new software and OS.
I’ve flip flopped a LOT, especially as Apple moves into practices that make me gag and my toes curl. However, I am determined to vote with my wallet and positive I’ll start transitioning away from Apple this year. The 8+ is a stop gap which I will trade in for something else. And as long as
keep gimping products, cheapening build quality, and becoming less customer friendly, I’ll continue to learn new software and OS.
That Apple is "doomed" because TC revised the guidance downward to only $84B dollars. Of course, no one is right and the market is an ever flowing mass that recedes and rises.
What OP is wrong on is that "apple is getting greedier and greedier". It has been shown in threads here that the phones are more expensive and apple is keeping the same margins.
As for me, I voted with my dollars and bought the max and enjoy using the phone.
Well, the OP's crystal ball might be somewhat correct, but it's not exactly prophetic to observe that anything that goes up is going to come down. Apple's had a blistering run, emerging from nearly being roadkill in the 90's to being the largest company in the world based on market cap. Nobody stays on top for long. It's just not sustainable.
So if the OP wants to pat himself on the back for creative phrasing of something that's quite obvious, he's in his right even if it's dripping with melodrama.
Perhaps things might be different if Steve Jobs were alive today, but they might also be worse. Shockingly, they could actually be more or less the same. Apple wasn't just Steve Jobs any more than it's just Tim Cook now.
I joined MR in 2013. Since then there has been a steady tide of negative sentiment toward Apple.
I liken ops post to one saying everyday: “today there will an earthquake in San Francisco”. That person will get to be right once at some point.
We’ll see what happens over the next year.
It seems that doom and gloom is the most popular model of armchair quarterbacking... not that I (or probably you too) are exempt from debating topics that we have few qualifications to discuss, but at least many of us who aren't supremely confident about our opinions are working from an understanding that we don't know what we don't know.
Predicting failure is a lot easier than predicting success. Anyone can do it. Few of the products that Apple releases will ever be a scorching success. The same could be said about Microsoft and everyone down the line to Proctor and Gamble. When people proclaim things like Steve Jobs would never have let something happen, they're falling for the myth that success can be easily replicated and that we're good at predicting things that will be successful... from pop songs to popular gadgets.
Even when everything is done right, so much of it is luck and luck is fickle. You can count on it to let you down a lot more often than it'll pick you up, but the only way to enjoy the blessings of luck is to risk failure again and again.
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According to the company itself, Apple needs to grow/recover market share in China and that's their main issue.
I have zero desire to visit China or anywhere in Asia that isn't Japan. I do not understand Chinese culture, their purchasing habits and what they think of the current crop of iPhones. I have a strong dislike for their political system.
So anything I say here is opinionated guesswork. As is 99% of this thread. If Apple who has $100B+ in cash is having trouble figuring out their China game and we are so 100% sure how they should solve their issues, we should be sending our resumes.
If anything, this story shows how much of the world has become China-dependent. And I think this is MUCH more scary that slowing sales in China can wreak havoc in the world like that.
However I have zero sympathy for the suits in Wall Street who were the only ones affected by this, though.
I have zero desire to visit China or anywhere in Asia that isn't Japan. I do not understand Chinese culture, their purchasing habits and what they think of the current crop of iPhones. I have a strong dislike for their political system.
So anything I say here is opinionated guesswork. As is 99% of this thread. If Apple who has $100B+ in cash is having trouble figuring out their China game and we are so 100% sure how they should solve their issues, we should be sending our resumes.
If anything, this story shows how much of the world has become China-dependent. And I think this is MUCH more scary that slowing sales in China can wreak havoc in the world like that.
However I have zero sympathy for the suits in Wall Street who were the only ones affected by this, though.
Whoops, my crystal ball must be broken. But activations did set a record in the US and Canada, sales were mostly down in China. Exact numbers aren't available, but could it be that - despite pricing - sales weren't that bad?
Wait, you’re going revive your old thread, and tell everyone that you’re ‘right, but not respond on why you think you were right? About what? And does that explain how you think you’re right, even though all you did was mention ‘doom and gloom’, how was that making anything you said right? I gather you likely won’t respond to any of these posts, but nothing of what you said was right, you merely were guessing in a sense because you were portraying negativity about Apple.
OP should have a word with the OP from the Dec. 2013 "the new Mac mini is almost certainly coming" thread.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/the-new-mac-mini-is-almost-certainly-coming.1681773/
Apple has over $100 billion in cash. They could probably zero out their revenue, stop doing everything they're doing and still exist for quite a few years just handing out cash.
It's the same as if I lost a $100 bill. I'd be pissed but I'll live through it.
Look, you own an iPhone XS Max, of course you’re gonna defend and justify your purchase till you die.
You’ll see this year when prices drop, it will be further proof that Apples aggressive pricing was wrong for this iPhone release.
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Apple doesn’t wanna release sale numbers because they’re BAD. They KNOW they ****ed up.
What don’t you people get?
We know that iPhones are overpriced. We know they aren't selling as fast.
Extending these two facts to "APPLE IS DOOMED!!!!111!!" is quite a stretch.
i don't think apple is doomed whatsoever. i just think their current pricing structure doesn't make sense.
it was just 2 years ago that a consumer could purchase the top of the line iPhone for $649-749 depending on if they wanted the regular or the plus. fast forward to today and the price is $999/$1099. it's simply too much and it's pure greed.
i'm hoping (and believe) they will re-evaluate their product lineup pricing strategy because it's just silly. all of their products are about $100-200 too much, including their mac lineup (don't even get me started on what a mess that is).
fortunately i'm open to other manufacturers. i do love the iPhone but as of now, i've put my foot down and voted with my wallet. i can afford a XS Max, however, it doesn't mean it's financially responsible to make that purchase just so i can make phone calls, send messages and go on social media.