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iFixit Gets Closer Look at Apple's Maligned FineWoven iPhone 15 Case With Teardown

xantufrog said:
You should prove that with statistics. I’ve seen you post a few times now about how green leather is and how them not using leather means it goes to waste. I think you should back that up. What’s the carbon footprint of one of these vs the leather case? What about the notoriously terrible chemical waste of the leather industry vs the chemicals here in these plastics? How’s it stack up? I think you‘ll find Apple‘s leather cases and these are both gross from an environmental perspective. But my money is the leather is worse, given how abysmal the stats on large scale farming are surrounding the meat and leather industry
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Oh quit defending Apple. They screwed the pooch twice this time, once with this fiber mess that will only die in a high temperature fire that will need an afterburner and a scrubber to clean up its toxic mess, and once with the titanium case. I know no one in marketing knows how to extract titanium from its ore, but they could have looked it up. Green it's not.

On the brighter side, (literally) someone is going to notice that titanium burns like magnesium, but hotter. A class D fire extinguisher won't put it out. It will make a good but expensive YouTube video.
 
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Siliconguy said:
Oh quit defending Apple. They screwed the pooch twice this time, once with this fiber mess that will only die in a high temperature fire that will need an afterburner and a scrubber to clean up its toxic mess, and once with the titanium case. I know no one in marketing knows how to extract titanium from its ore, but they could have looked it up. Green it's not.

On the brighter side, (literally) someone is going to notice that titanium burns like magnesium, but hotter. A class D fire extinguisher won't put it out. It will make a good but expensive YouTube video.
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Quit defending Apple? I’m not defending Apple. I don’t own an iPhone or want one of these cases. I just object to him repeated making unsubstantiated claims that leather is more environmentally friendly than this
 
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Apple_Robert said:
That too. lol Better for the case to get scratched, nicked, or stained than the phone. Yet people are obsessing over the case being treated like a case. Crazy stuff here on MR.
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The problem is that it is a $60 case. For that kind of money you expect something that will hold up better. This one feels more like a $15.99 case that you use for a while and then discard when it wears out.
 
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xantufrog said:
You should prove that with statistics. I’ve seen you post a few times now about how green leather is and how them not using leather means it goes to waste. I think you should back that up. What’s the carbon footprint of one of these vs the leather case? What about the notoriously terrible chemical waste of the leather industry vs the chemicals here in these plastics? How’s it stack up? I think you‘ll find Apple‘s leather cases and these are both gross from an environmental perspective. But my money is the leather is worse, given how abysmal the stats on large scale farming are surrounding the meat and leather industry
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You should prove that with statistics. To be honest, you seem like the kind of person that has already made your decision and no amount of data is going to change your mind.

I don't really care about the environmental credentials of either case. My concern is that Apple is making a claim that is not only unsubstantiated, but completely and utterly false.

The finewoven cases are not better for the environment. At all. Their lack of durability means they will be disposed of quicker and end up in landfill. These are a bad, low-quality product. If apple were genuinely concerned about the environment, they would design devices across multiple years with the same dimensions and sell quality leather cases.

One leather wallet can last 5-10 years. The leather is a by-product of the meat industry and is going to exist anyway. A case is a just a wallet for your phone and should be able to last just as long. Every decision they make is to get you to buy more products from them. That is completely antithetical to environmental friendliness.
 
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How are Apple’s silicone cases? Would it be better to get those over the FineWoven ones?
 
wikiverse said:
You should prove that with statistics. To be honest, you seem like the kind of person that has already made your decision and no amount of data is going to change your mind.

I don't really care about the environmental credentials of either case. My concern is that Apple is making a claim that is not only unsubstantiated, but completely and utterly false.

The finewoven cases are not better for the environment. At all. Their lack of durability means they will be disposed of quicker and end up in landfill. These are a bad, low-quality product. If apple were genuinely concerned about the environment, they would design devices across multiple years with the same dimensions and sell quality leather cases.

One leather wallet can last 5-10 years. The leather is a by-product of the meat industry and is going to exist anyway. A case is a just a wallet for your phone and should be able to last just as long. Every decision they make is to get you to buy more products from them. That is completely antithetical to environmental friendliness.
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I have made no decision. You made a claim. The onus is on you to back it up.
 
Tagbert said:
The problem is that it is a $60 case. For that kind of money you expect something that will hold up better. This one feels more like a $15.99 case that you use for a while and then discard when it wears out.
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It very well could fall apart quickly. Too quick to say either way. People shouldn’t be comparing it to leather and expecting the same feel and durability and many are. That is why many are disappointed. And they can thank their bad reasoning for feeling let down.
 
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mr_matalino said:
Why does Apple start hating leather when the earth is mined at incredible rates for lithium?
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Most lithium is extracted the same way we get extract salt by evaporating a salty brine. While there are a lot of phones, each one only uses a small amount of lithium and it can be recycled when the phone is returned. Even for EVs the amount of lithium is only in the range of 10-20 pounds of lithium per vehicle and that should last for the life of the vehicle in a modern battery pack. Compare that with the much larger amount of material that you bring home from the shops each week that is “recycled” or tossed out.
 
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I have an iPhone 15 Pro in a finewoven case which is fine but my 15 Pro Max’s volume-down button is too easy to press in the case. It’s better without the case. I’m not sure what’s going on. Has anyone else experienced this? I’m going to try another case to see if it’s the phone or the case.
 
B-Mc-C said:
Just left the my store and the wall of FineWoven cases and wallets were already completely destroyed with scratch tests, like 30 scratches on each one. They are definitely going to have to replace the whole wall of display units on a daily basis. Crazy. Apple needs to reverse course on these. Imagine how they will look after a month!
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I came on just to say this. Saw the same thing at my store. It's appalling. Heck, even brand new they still aren't all that attractive.
 
Siliconguy said:
On the brighter side, (literally) someone is going to notice that titanium burns like magnesium, but hotter. A class D fire extinguisher won't put it out. It will make a good but expensive YouTube video.
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Most materials will burn at sufficient temperatures. Aluminium and stainless steel ignite earlier than titanium, and glass will melt. While a burning titanium iPhone would make for an interesting video, it is not a scenario one has to worry about in the real world.
 
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Unity451 said:
So it's not a case... it's a jacket. Got it.
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Funny, but true! We can treat them as a very tight version of Apple socks.

The initiative itself is great, but Apple should have priced it accordingly at 10$ tops. Then folks might have considered them as cheap “coats” to be swapped frequently (which is what these seem to be).

At 59$, however, plus the price of iFixit recommended water repellent, it is a bit of a joke.
 
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“iFixit suggests that those with FineWoven cases protect it with a Durable Water Repellent spray to make the case more resistant to staining and liquid.”

So, baste it in forever chemicals. Love me some PFAS all over my iPhone case. 👌
 
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