iPad Pro I'm returning my iPad pro... [MERGED]

[draughn101]

I agree with you on the pencil feel on the screen. I only use it to take notes, so it doesn't bother me, but I see your point there.

As far as the charging, I think it's great. You never have to worry about carrying a spare battery or anything like that. Hook it up for a few seconds and I have enough charge to finish my note taking session. I think it's a pretty good idea. As far as the eraser goes, it takes me twice as long to flip the pencil over then it does pressing the eraser button, and I feel that I can still be precise with the pencil tip.

As far as 3D Touch, look at what it did for the weight and thickness of the iPhone, can you imagine what it would have done to this? The iPP is bordering on acceptable thickness and weight as it is. While I'm sure financials played a role in this, it's easy to see how the pros and cons of adding it worked out.

 

[dyn]

There are many people who dislike the writing/drawing on the tablet because it isn't natural and/or too smooth (mind you, there are people who dislike certain paper for the very same reason!). We had them back then and we have them now on both the iPad and Surface. Too bad that there aren't enough iPad Pro's plus Pencils around in stores to try out. That would have saved some the hassle of returning the product.

 

[AdonisSMU]

Never spend 6 months salary on a product....for something you don't absolutely need.

 

[draughn101]

Never spend 6 months salary on a product....for something you don't absolutely need.

If that's 6 months of your salary you need to get off these forums, and stop paying for Internet immediately.

 

[AFEPPL]

If it doesn't work for you return it, you don't need to justify that choice to anyone regardless of what they say.

 

[FallenLegend]

The harsh truth is that .., It's not the tool's fault you can't draw.

People can draw perfectly with a $1.00 dollar pencil.

Throwing money won't solve this.

 

[PixelPrincess]

I have had the exact opposite experience. I am a professional artist and art teacher and the iPad Pro + Apple Pencil is hands down the best digital drawing experience I have ever tried.

To address some of the OP's concerns:

1. Give yourself time to adjust to drawing on a glass surface. In the analogue world, artists paint and draw on all sorts or porous and non-porous surfaces... So take the time to get familiar with a new one.

2. I think the "no eraser" argument needs to end--- my set of sketching pencils do not have erasers on their ends nor do my paint brushes, markers, etc... Apps like Procreate allow for gestures like double tapping to undo or one-click eraser modes that are even more convenient than any traditional eraser.

3. As for charging the Pencil, use the adapter that comes with it to charge it from the wall. The lightening port charging is meant to be used when you're on the go and you only need to charge it for 15 seconds in that manner to get an extra 30min of use- amazing!!

Here is an example of the first sketch I did on the iPad Pro using the Procreate app:

 

[Aydy]

I have had the exact opposite experience. I am a professional artist and art teacher and the iPad Pro + Apple Pencil is hands down the best digital drawing experience I have ever tried.

To address some of the OP's concerns:

1. Give yourself time to adjust to drawing on a glass surface. In the analogue world, artists paint and draw on all sorts or porous and non-porous surfaces... So take the time to get familiar with a new one.

2. I think the "no eraser" argument needs to end--- my set of sketching pencils do not have erasers on their ends nor do my paint brushes, markers, etc... Apps like Procreate allow for gestures like double tapping to undo or one-click eraser modes that are even more convenient than any traditional eraser.

3. As for charging the Pencil, use the adapter that comes with it to charge it from the wall. The lightening port charging is meant to be used when you're on the go and you only need to charge it for 15 seconds in that manner to get an extra 30min of use- amazing!!

Here is an example of the first sketch I did on the iPad Pro using the Procreate app:

Wow, thats impressive. Really good!

I personally feel absolutely no rush to give up my pen and paper combo, then again i am not much into drawing etc and certainly not even close to that level of talent.

I did attempt to use the little SPen thingy that came with my note 4 to take some quick notes, however after about one week of owning the phone the novelty was gone and that little s pen went back into its little enclosure and hasn't seen the light of day since (over a year)

The feel, the texture, even the sound the tactile feedback of ink/crayon on paper...Its something primitive that digital and glass can never replicate.

I absolutely dredd a day when my kids no longer go to their pencil pot to doodle, or no longer feel the need to pack their jotters (notebooks) and pencil case in their backpaks when heading to school...What will they rattle against their teeth in long boring classes. A healthily chewed up pencil top is a rite of passage, as are the collection of discarded curled wood shavings that collect in the bottom of the backpak.

All that said, that day is coming, its here. Its just that i am not ready to embrace nor encourage where i think this is heading. Which is why i secretly (somewhat selfishly) hope this digital paper and ink-less pen thing remains a bit gimmicky and not become "the norm"

I'm not old but am an old soul, and as you may have guessed dont do 'change, that well Stop the world i wanna get off...

 

[TxExCxH]

Did you turn back ground apps off?

I believe by default, Windows 10 has all its apps running in the back ground, which drains tons of battery.

You have to go into settings and select what you want to run...atleast doing that increased my battery by a few hours, when I had my SP3.

Sorry, I no longer have my SP3 so I can't remember where exactly the option was, but if you google it, I'm sure you'll find it.

Thanks for the tip. I dint realize so many things were running in the background and on start up.

 

[Xprmntr]

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[Xprmntr]

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[Nausicaa]

I have had the exact opposite experience. I am a professional artist and art teacher and the iPad Pro + Apple Pencil is hands down the best digital drawing experience I have ever tried.

To address some of the OP's concerns:

1. Give yourself time to adjust to drawing on a glass surface. In the analogue world, artists paint and draw on all sorts or porous and non-porous surfaces... So take the time to get familiar with a new one.

2. I think the "no eraser" argument needs to end--- my set of sketching pencils do not have erasers on their ends nor do my paint brushes, markers, etc... Apps like Procreate allow for gestures like double tapping to undo or one-click eraser modes that are even more convenient than any traditional eraser.

3. As for charging the Pencil, use the adapter that comes with it to charge it from the wall. The lightening port charging is meant to be used when you're on the go and you only need to charge it for 15 seconds in that manner to get an extra 30min of use- amazing!!

Here is an example of the first sketch I did on the iPad Pro using the Procreate app:

Thumbs up and I agree 100%. Way too many people who think digital art is some magic tool that will make you magically competent enough to create professional level concept art. It's best thought of as its own medium and it takes time to get used to it. There are various solutions to add more grip to the screen as some have pointed out, otherwise it really is just a matter of time and practice, just like any other medium. I mean if you don't like it that's fine, but it's just a reality of the medium - drawing on a screen is very different from physical media. As usual people are hyping Surface, in reality it feels no different. It's still plastic on a glass screen, just not as good of a stylus.

And a hearty "**** yeah!" To number 2 on your list. The second I hear this complaint I immediately know the poster has little idea what they are talking about. Any artist working with pencils is going to have a separate eraser. And as you say, in digital there are much better ways to correct a mistake, and the eraser is best thought of as another brush to shape your strokes and such or clean up line work. In that capacity having an eraser like the Surface is pointless because the nub is thicker than the pen tip and obscures what you're trying to erase.

And the charging, yeah it looks stupid, but it takes like 5 minutes to get a full charge. Nonissue and if anything it's nice to have the ability to charge right from the device.

 

[maxsix]

Do try the surface 4 and pen. The rubber tip gives excellent tactile feedback similar to biro on paper and there is a kit that has 4 other tips for different feel and feedback. There is some parallax similar to the cintiq range but the feel is a lot better than iPad pro.

I agree with you that the apple pencil is probably the best pen so far but the feel while drawing on the glass isn't right yet even with the slightly different finish Apple have given the pro (try the pencil on your iPhone or iPad Air, the pro defiantly has a little more friction). Also this newer glass finish makes the pro a total grease trap which is tough to clean with just a "damp" cloth.

I'm genuinely delighted with the performance, flexibility, and ease of use as a note taker via stylus, of my Surface Pro 4.

Well balanced, conveniently sized, a terrific value that's just right for my note taking needs.

Thanks Microsoft

 

[Netrox]

2. I think the "no eraser" argument needs to end--- my set of sketching pencils do not have erasers on their ends nor do my paint brushes, markers, etc... Apps like Procreate allow for gestures like double tapping to undo or one-click eraser modes that are even more convenient than any traditional eraser.

I agree with that one. The "no eraser" argument is totally useless on a tablet. There is no need for one. My note taking app can erase with a scribble gesture. It's easier than using eraser. And art pencils do not have erasers either like you said. Real artists use putty rubber to erase.

 

[Netrox]

One more thing about glass on iPad pro. It actually have more friction than iPad Air 2. When I tried the pencil on air (nonfunctional), the surface is extremely slippery. Not so with iPad pro which seems to have more friction although it may still feel too smooth. Try it on your iPhone too if it's not protected. Strange but true.

 

[FallenLegend]

Hey Pixel princess can I ask you for some artistic advice?

I have had the exact opposite experience. I am a professional artist and art teacher and the iPad Pro + Apple Pencil is hands down the best digital drawing experience I have ever tried.

To address some of the OP's concerns:

1. Give yourself time to adjust to drawing on a glass surface. In the analogue world, artists paint and draw on all sorts or porous and non-porous surfaces... So take the time to get familiar with a new one.

2. I think the "no eraser" argument needs to end--- my set of sketching pencils do not have erasers on their ends nor do my paint brushes, markers, etc... Apps like Procreate allow for gestures like double tapping to undo or one-click eraser modes that are even more convenient than any traditional eraser.

3. As for charging the Pencil, use the adapter that comes with it to charge it from the wall. The lightening port charging is meant to be used when you're on the go and you only need to charge it for 15 seconds in that manner to get an extra 30min of use- amazing!!

Here is an example of the first sketch I did on the iPad Pro using the Procreate app:

 

[VesselA]

I ABSOLUTELY HATE IT!

Dont get me wrong. Its easily the best stylus I've ever used.

hmm, seems contradictory

Im waiting to test it, but from what I've seen and heard it looks like there's less parallax offset than the surface pen, which I think it the most important thing for precision. Also heard it makes more of a "clacky" sound when hitting the display - I hope they release softer pen tips as an option like surface pen

 

[TurboPGT!]

Terrible post. No valid points.

 

[AdonisSMU]

If that's 6 months of your salary you need to get off these forums, and stop paying for Internet immediately.

Sorry I meant 6 months of savings...

 

[pianoman88]

Thanks for participating in the iPad Pro beta/pilot program. I'm sure in a few years there will be apps that justify its existence.

Here is a charging ring that works to recharge a pen in a non silly way

Not finding this doing a search. The URL, please.

 

[zhenya]

It's been touched on a bit here, but you absolutely have to give yourself more than a couple of days to adapt to working on a new medium. You've been drawing on paper your entire life so you completely overlook the MANY issues that paper has in and of itself - yet those are almost entirely overlooked because it's just something we inherently accept. No, digital writing and drawing tools are far from perfect - but nothing is - and digital tools are going to continue to improve at a rapid pace while paper et al will remain exactly as they have for years - for better and for worse.

One other aside, I really don't understand how anyone can consider even an iPhone + to be in any way shape or form a comfortable alternative for browsing on a large screen like an iPad. I use my phone when I have no other options or for quick glances at information - otherwise the experience is so much more enjoyable on a large screen.

 

[AttilaTheHun]

It's look like me too, or sell it or return it b4 1/8/16.
I like it a lot but it not for me. If you going to use it at home or office desk then it for you.
If you need to take it out to school or or where ever, then the size is too big.
I like the pencil not the keyboard (i never buy a keyboard) i need more the one language so the internal is perfect
for me.
So If Apple will come out with iPad pro 9.7" thats the one for me.

 

[David58117]

It's look like me too, or sell it or return it b4 1/8/16.
I like it a lot but it not for me. If you going to use it at home or office desk then it for you.
If you need to take it out to school or or where ever, then the size is too big.
I like the pencil not the keyboard (i never buy a keyboard) i need more the one language so the internal is perfect
for me.
So If Apple will come out with iPad pro 9.7" thats the one for me.

I take mine to school and the size is perfect.

Reading PDFs on it with liquidtext is amazing, especially the highlighting and skim feature.

The size is perfect for taking notes and having the textbook open.

So your mileage may vary..

 

[rowspaxe]

[QUOTE="Yourbigpalal83, post: 22297759, member: I looked at multiple tablets across the whole range of platforms (Microsoft surface, android, iPads) and for media consumption i always stuck with the iPad line and had almost every iteration of them since the beginning.
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Oh boo hoo. You looked at numerous drawing solutions over "years" and it never occurred to you that they involve drawing on glass. A thousand dollars is 6 months saving--and you didn't consider tryding the ipp in the store? your pathetic

 

[rowspaxe]

[QUOTE="Yourbigpalal83, post: 22297759, member: I looked at multiple tablets across the whole range of platforms (Microsoft surface, android, iPads) and for media consumption i always stuck with the iPad line and had almost every iteration of them since the beginning.

Oh boo hoo. You looked at numerous drawing solutions over "years" and it never occurred to you that they involve drawing on glass. A thousand dollars is 6 months saving--and you didn't consider trying the ipp in the store? your pathetic