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this whole USB-C situation is one of the weirdest ones Apple has cooked up in a while. cannot fathom why they would outfit their best-selling product with the latest open standard for wired connectivity and limit it to speeds from a twenty-three year old standard. especially when all of their computers currently for sale have at least two Thunderbolt ports.

my sleep-deprived brain wants to make sense of the MFi component but it really does just seem like a desperate attempt to keep that program alive. did they not just break records on their Services revenue in the latest quarter? do they really still need the money from that?

ahh, having the former COO in charge…(not like Steve didn't do these absurd cash grabs, he's the father of the Apple Tax—maybe it's just my subconscious showing its bias, though it didn't seem like things THIS egregious happened pre-Tim.)
 
USB C ports are a pain in the ass to use. I guess I’ll have to get a magnetic charging platform for my iPhone, Apple Watch & AirPo Pro. I will miss the lightening connectors, I guess I’ll have to take them all in to Apple for recycling. 🙁
given all the environmental stuff they love to tout, I would not be surprised to see a whole part of September's keynote talking about their recycling program for Lightning cables specifically…lol

I'm curious though—what are your complaints about USB-C? I know there's the issue of the connection becoming less sturdy over time, just wondering if you have any other grievances with it.
 
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given all the environmental stuff they love to tout, I would not be surprised to see a whole part of September's keynote talking about their recycling program for Lightning cables specifically…lol

I'm curious though—what are your complaints about USB-C? I know there's the issue of the connection becoming less sturdy over time, just wondering if you have any other grievances with it.

I don't mind USB-C itself, but I hate the implementation on my mac studio.
The port is just literalli a hole, with no indentation, and you have no grip when unplugging cables.
I often end up dragging the mac studio along with the cable, despite putting a lot of care into this action...
 
EU doesn’t rule the world, EU decides what can be sold within EU. Apple is free to either not sell their products in the EU or make a special version just for EU. Nothing weird with a country or union dictating what is allowed within their regulatory region, more or less every country does that.
The post indicated it trying. . taking it personally, are you? seemly so. it wasn't met that way. wy you state it says EU is always in control that's not good.
 
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Steve said OS X setup Apple for the next 20 years starting back around 2001. Doesn't mean they're going to get rid of OS X anytime soon.

Dissatisfied absolutely means EU had influenced the roadmap in some way. It's entirely possible Apple wanted a portless phone in the next few years and was going to push MagSafe hard (possibly eliminating the cable from the box by now so the user has to choose between buying another lightning cable or go MagSafe).

It's entirely possible that Apple was going to put a fiber-optic port on the bottom of the phone, or maybe a serial port, or ethernet. There is no point on speculating things without evidence while there is abundant evidence that apple was going USB-C with or without the EU.

I DO NOT WANT a portless phone. I gave an example yesterday where I had 6gb of video I needed to get off my phone, to a windows PC, fairly quickly. I had slow cell internet, and couldn't wait for it upload to the cloud. Copied it via cable in just a few minutes.
 
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If that was the case (I somehow doubt it), and if I were in the market, I’d be inclined to import a non-EU model just for the lightning port.
oh man I wouldn't mind, we use Macs at work and I have more lighting cables around the house that I like to admit. I don't particularly love or hate lightning so. if anything switching to USB C for me it would be a negative because my wife and family members would have a reason to use my chargers and they have sticky hands! being the only apple user in my house has that perk, no one messes with my charging cables
 
ShrimpApplePro says that cables with no MFi certification will be limited in data and charging speed. Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has also suggested that Apple will require Made for iPhone certification for USB-C chargers that are able to fast charge the iPhone.
140W fast-charging on the MacBook Pro?
Apple: "We love type-C!"

iPads switching to type-C for years?
Apple: "Type-C is great."

The Apple TV 4K remote switch recently.
Apple: "Type-C all the way, baby."

On the iPhone?
Apple: "If we didn't save your life from USB Type-C, you would be dead right now."
 
The speed situation is interesting to me. Are there a lot of users still out there plugging their phone into their computer to back up or to upload new music to it?
 
The speed situation is interesting to me. Are there a lot of users still out there plugging their phone into their computer to back up or to upload new music to it?
im in the same boat. i havent used data transfer for years other than to manually back up photos or to do the odd DFU restore, both which dont take a long time anyway. i can only imagine the larger proportion of people interested in data transfer speeds are ones who capture juicy 4K proRes videos.
 
They are easier to clean out (when the port gets filled with pocket fuzz) and easier to dry out (when the phone gets wet). The “tung” on usb-c just gets in the way.

I will miss the lighting port on the phone.
I have had several USB-C Ports break on devices (including two iPad Pros). I've never had a lightning port break on me. I've ended up with it a little loose and have had cables break, but not the port itself. Much much more expensive to replace a port on a device than just get a new cable.
 
Meh.... I don't even remember the last time I used a cable with my iPhone tbh... I have wireless charging in my car, and a magsafe duo on my night table..... And with icloud I don't really transfer any data. I think I'm ready for a portless phone.
 
No, the post was all regarding what Apple is allowed to sell within EU, they aren’t trying to tell Apple what to sell outside of EU. Maybe Apple decides that it will still nerf the transfer and charging speeds of non MFI cables and chargers outside of EU, that is up to them.
you're just rambling now. this fruitless redundant chatter over and over again. Sense happens when people continuously believe that they’re right in fact it’s more bias then factual. can you have these discussions you don’t know how many you’re actually talking to
 
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It’s about time they adopted it but for me personally it’s not some amazing thing as I can’t remember the last time I plugged in to charge!
 
Are you serious? Users have no idea what 3nm processors even means. USB-C however is a thing users actually will notice. At this point most of us have more USB-C cables than lightning.
Do you even know what 3nm means? Are you aware it is a marketing term only, and has nothing to do with measurements?
 
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