Signs you're that old... citing an OS abandoned >2 decades ago.
>80% of today's active Mac users only knows macOS and not OS9.
And I am speaking of <$999 in terms of year 2021 money & not earlier than 2000 money.
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>80% of today's active Mac users only knows macOS and not OS9.
And I am speaking of <$999 in terms of year 2021 money & not earlier than 2000 money.
That is false, the M1 was nowhere close to being the fastest integrated GPU.
The best iGPU is in the Xbox Series X and is 20% more powerful than the M1 Max, despite being more than 1 year old and $499.
I love your pedantic reply.
I'm sure Xbox Series X can run Photoshop & Premier faster than any M1.
Good that you are laughing at facts.
The GPU of the M1 Max is around a Playstation 5 in terms of power.
You guys need to drop the koolaid thinking that the M1 was the most powerful integrated GPU all this time.
...Except that the GPU in the Xbox Series X isn't an integrated GPU, but a dedicated one on its own board. And has 3,5x times the power draw.
Facts...again, nice joking... I cant even consider M1 max or pro as integrated graphics..yes same package...but not the same as what amd or intel are offering. Maybe the same as the xbox X
Again to be most powerful in the real sense of word is to be overall the most powerful...that xbox X gpu is more powerful in games that are developed specific to that console specifics
While an M1 max can perform very good under emulation, under tools, under metal etc...as a Maya user i would never want an Xbox X...so again, you are right, but just in 1 specific, limited scenario...for gaming under console
Its like saying that the Fireforce Jetcars is faster than F1 car....yea, in just one scenario, straight , limited line, but overall not even close
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But for gaming the Series X is more powerful. Yes the computer the M1 Max is in is more versatile than the game console Scarlett is in. No one is saying otherwise.
I am interested in seeing how this all turns out next year. We should start seeing the 2023-2024 round of AAA games announced at the next E3. It will also be intersting to see if Sony will add macOS as a platform for it's PC ports of first party titles.
True. People compare System 7-9 against Window 95 and that was pretty much junk too, but Windows NT was substantially better as an OS than pre-OSX MacOS.
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I don't run aaa games on PC's either, I have an XBoxX to do that. I only got into this thread because of the outlandish title.
That's an interesting way of saying that your frame of reference is far too limited and you don't actually know what you're talking about in this instance.
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I'm sure any Mac on the planet can't run Ansys without a virtual machine (which would be a poor solution). So? Software not natively available on a platform speaks to performance? Nope. That and the capability of running Photoshop is important how? Oddly enough, there are other uses for computers beyond the Internet, Photoshop, Premier, and Office. I've never even actually used Photoshop, so I don't care one bit. It's really amusing just how narrow some people's views are.
Are you joking? Both xbox and playstation are using desktop AMD APU and the GPU performance is far from mobile RTX 3080. You clearly have no proofs to support your claim after all.
The console GPUs are roughly comparable to a desktop 6700 or 6700 XT. PS5 has 36 compute units running at 2.23 GHz (~10.3 TFLOPS), Xbox Series X has 52 CUs at 1.825 GHz (~12.1 TFLOPS), 6700 has 36 CUs at 2.5 GHz (~11.5 TFLOPs), and 6700 XT has 40 CUs at 2.581 GHz (~13.2 TFLOPS). Those numbers are similar to the 32-core M1 Max GPU. Unlike with Nvidia/AMD laptop GPUs, the nominal frequencies are usually sustainable with adequate cooling.
Edit: I missed that the 6700 has not been released and the numbers are speculation. Obviously it should be somewhere between the 6600 XT and 6700 XT, which is a narrow range.
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I asked a proof and yet you are asking me, huh?
Specs are actual results are different thing.
Actual performance will probably be better than with the M1 Max or with comparable consumer GPUs:
- Consoles have sufficient cooling and don't throttle, unlike Nvidia/AMD laptop GPUs.
- Consoles use unified memory (with plenty of memory bandwidth), unlike desktop GPUs.
- Console games tend to be better optimized than Mac/PC software. The hardware stays the same for a long time, and developers learn how to optimize for it.
Why don't you do some research before spreading misinformation. Your biased opinion doesn't override facts / data.
But the truth is not what you are after, you are after the biased opinion that the M1 is the most powerful integrated GPU in the world. A simple search would have answered your question, but we all know that is not what you are interested in.
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You ARE the one who is spreading misinformation with biased opinion. You have no PROOFS to support your claim and yet you are mocking me for what? How laughable. No proofs, no thanks.
Facts / data is not misinformation. You could have simply looked it up that the GPU of the Xbox Series X has 12 TFLOPS and the M1 Max only 10 TFLOPS. But that you did not even bother to fact-check this tells me enough about your bias.
Now continue spreading your misinformation that the M1 GPU has been the most powerful integrated GPU for over year.
People who look at facts / data know that the M1 was never this.
I mean I have looked but only DF does the kind of performance reviews that would tell us anything and they don’t test notebook GPUs. And even then console version of games use different settings that a lot of times you cannot exactly reproduce on the pc.
If we use Shadow of the Tomb Raider as our example, I think the game runs at near medium settings at near 4K on the Series X. Then again it also runs at the same resolution and settings on the One X just at 30fps instead of ~60fps on the Series X.
FYI, Tflops can't really be used to measure the performance of a GPU. It's more complicated than that.
What I do know is that the M1 Max CPU walks all over the XSX CPU. In addition, the M1 Max has nearly 4x the number of transistors over the XSX SoCs. Thi suggests that the M1 Max is far more capable and far more sophisticated as a SoC.