Right now, I am playing every good Playstation 2 game at 60 fps on my M2 Air. It's weird that people crave loot boxes and bugfests. Just because it's a "new" AAA does not mean the experience will be better. I will stack Burnout 3/ps2 on my Air against any modern racer. The game is just pure fun.
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Right now, I am playing every good Playstation 2 game at 60 fps on my M2 Air. It's weird that people crave loot boxes and bugfests. Just because it's a "new" AAA does not mean the experience will be better. I will stack Burnout 3/ps2 on my Air against any modern racer. The game is just pure fun.
he could do the greatest emulator in history, but the goblins that control the AppStore will not let it in.. I hope the EU kills the AppStore by forcing apple to allow open software installation on iOS/iPadOS like we have on macOS.
Fortunately, I'm not bound by Apple's iPadOS shackles thanks to TrollStore unrestricted, permanent and completely free app sideloading.
yes I was an AltStore user on iOS 15.. haven't tried it on 16 yet. I started toting an rgv350v in my bag as it is more convenient. We shouldn't have to do that though. There should be switch that we can toggle to just install anything we want. which controller you using? xbox controller with my air is beautiful for aethersx2.
How did it eventually end with advent of Apple Silicon platform?
Is there more games available due to compatibility provided by Rosetta-2? Or even less due to Metal-only graphics API support?
So far I can play x32 games on my 2017 MacBook Pro with Mojave. If I only upgrade the MacOS, most of games will not work anymore.
Is there more games available due to compatibility provided by Rosetta-2? Or even less due to Metal-only graphics API support?
So far I can play x32 games on my 2017 MacBook Pro with Mojave. If I only upgrade the MacOS, most of games will not work anymore.
The new Steam survey for November 2022 is out and it seems M1 and M2 variants are steadily taking over the macOS leaderboard (over 50%).
| SoC | Percentage | Change |
| M1 | 32.22% | -0.05% |
| M1 Pro | 9.28% | +0.37% |
| M2 | 5.76% | +0.70% |
| M1 Max | 3.71% | +0.06% |
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AFAIK, the only way to play x32 games on macOS is to do so with the legacy OS, i.e., not the ones that dropped x32
I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at. Rosetta 2, allows ARM based Macs to execute X86 code. So if an intel Mac can play a game (and its x64), then an ARM based Mac should be able too as well, thanks to Rosetta 2. Metal support is slow in being embraced. There's been a ton of debate on why AAA publishers are not embracing Macs for game playing.
I found one good circumstance that certain games are 64 bit, regardless they are labeled as 32 bit in Steam.
Yeah, there's a macos64 flag in Steam, but it isn't enabled by default, it has to be manually selected. It's something Valve has to fix eventually.
That's quite an odd take that doesn't make sense.
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be quiet! is a German company founded in 2001 that is specialized in PC components for which low sound is an advantage, things like CPU coolers, case fans, power supplies. It has nothing to do with the imaginary PC's problem with loudness. Noctua is a similar company only their name isn't as suggestive.
Also extremely quiet operation on Windows PCs is absolutely possible and relatively easy to achieve. All you need is a quality case(there are cases which specialize in limiting sound for fans and coolers), good quality case fans and CPU cooler, a GPU with a quiet cooler. The loudest components in my PC for example are the mechanical HDDs and I don't have anywhere near the best/quietest components. If there's a desire for the lowest possible noise there are also ways to lower the CPU and GPU TDPs during games(which lowers the noise), often this can be achieved with minimal impact on performance. The 13900k barely loses any gaming performance at 105W and it very cool at that TDP, I mean it's not like an M1 Ultra or M2 Ultra for that matter could ever hope to match a 4090 or 4080 in pure gaming performance anyway. So yeah PCs can also be extremely quiet if that's and absolute necessity.
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I always think that MAC and Android are not game machines. They are better at application level operation. Playing games requires powerful chips and powerful processing power. Now their functions are not enough for games, including Nintendo's switch handheld game console.
Real game console:
WINDOWS, PS4,PS5, XBOX
Real game console:
WINDOWS, PS4,PS5, XBOX
One thing that you might be missing out is the actual market share that Apple has with regard to just iOS gaming. It’s greater than Windows, PlayStation, and Xbox combined.
How many hours have you spent playing Mac games, and which ones were they?
I think the real issue is what we have come to believe a game needs to be goody i.e. immersive realistic graphics, sounds, etc., all of which require a lot of processor power. Not that that doesn't add to enjoyability, but neither is it needed.
We have let that overshadow actual game play. Look at some of the arcade classics such as Space Invader - still quite playable and enjoyable despite primitive, by today's standards, graphics. Remakes, with better graphics, failed to replicate what made the originals great and addictive games.
No matter how many people buy and use IOS to play games, they can't prove that they (MAC and NS) are suitable for playing AAA games, because their hardware structure determines that they can't be as easy as professional game consoles or game computers, because they are hard inserted in too narrow places with a variety of chips with high heat capacity, which will lead to heat dissipation problems and machine damage problems. They are not bought to play games, which is a problem of positioning.
Even 7 billion people can't change the fact that they are not real AAA game consoles. Note, I didn't say they can't play. Both NS and MAC can install and play AAA games, but they are not suitable.
This is also why many developers are not willing to develop high-quality games for them, because the cost of maintenance and optimization is too high.
I like old-fashioned games. I don't think it's necessary to pursue AAA level. This is a heavy burden on computers. It's OK to play some interesting A-level or B-level games after work.
Capcom (RE Village), Hello Games (No Man's Sky), Codemasters (Grid Legends), Larian Studios (Baldur's Gate 3), 4A Games (Metro Trilogy), Eidos/Crystal Dynamics (Tomb Raider Trilogy, Deus Ex) and other devs seem to disagree.
RE Village on MBP M2 Max 38c
1440p Max settings MetalFX Quality mode 120-170 fps
2234p (3.5K) Max settings MetalFX Quality mode 100-110 fps
2234p (3.5K) Max settings no MetalFX 70-90 fps
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Only few games? Not a good example especially since all of them released after several years later from the original release date.
You post an old video where M1 Max 32c is half as fast as mobile 3070 Ti as an answer to a recent video of M2 Max 38c?
M2 Max 38c does 70-90 fps in RE Village at 3456 x 2234 max settings without MetalFX. That resolution has 7.5% less pixels than 3840 x 2160, meaning M2 Max would do 65-83 fps at the higher res. That can be as fast as 3070 Ti at best and 3060 Ti at worst according to Techpowerup and I’m not talking about mobile. A mobile 3080 Ti does 71 fps according to Notebookcheck.
Here is another result. M2 Max 38c as fast as desktop 3070 Ti and 23% faster than mobile 3080 Ti in GFXBench.
WRONG
The video I attached shows that M1 Max at 2K or 1440P usually stays around 60~70 FPS while mobile RTX 3070ti stays around 120 FPS. Do you really think adding 2 more GPU cores with different GPU architecture improve the GPU performance dramatically? I highly doubt it. M1 Max was not even close to Mobile RTX 3070ti instead of mobile RTX 3060. Might be close to mobile RTX 3070ti but guess what? It's not even 5nm+ based. Nvidia has RTX 40 series which is based on TSMC 5nm, not 5nm+ or 4nm. As a result, the gaming performance is still bad compared to Nvidia. Dont say the power consumption is much lower, the gamers only care about the performance.
Also, M2 Max's performance from Andru Edward's video is totally MISLEADING and not comparable. He shot his video while he is playing INSIDE the castle or house. It's much easier to get higher FPS since there aren't many objects to render compared to outside. That's how he got higher FPS which is meaningless. Created Tech's video compared exactly at the same outdoor location to compare each other which is more reliable testing. If you wanna prove me wrong, bring me a video of M2 Max testing outdoor location of RE8 or exactly identical location of M1 Max's testing which right after the early stage where Ethen Winter is heading to the village. Otherwise, M2 Max's video that you mentioned is not a proof.
And benchmark doesn't really prove anything. The real life testing such as playing game is much more reliable.
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Well, it seems to give a 30-40% boost, which I think is fairly dramatic.
Performance is nice. Battery life is also nice. And also not trying to set said gamer's desk or lap on fire is also an appreciated outcome.
Then complain to Andru Edward. I don't think MacRumors has any affiliation with him, but he likely has some way of contacting him through his Youtube channel.
Certainly. You're going to provide the M1/M2 Max, I assume? You seem so eager for the ben...
...chmarks? Oh, well, that's fine then. I'll go tell AMD and nVidia to stop comparing benchmarks in their marketing campaigns.
That the 38 core M2 Max is almost as fast as the 64 core M1 Ultra feels like there was/is something really broken in the M1 GPU setup that they fixed in the M2.
Ventura did seem to optimise something with the framework as well. Verdun went from 24-58 fps on Big Sur to 28-117 on Ventura.
I only game when I am mobile now and Forza Horizon 5 runs like a dream on my 2019 Macbook Pro 16. The advantage of being a Mac user is we have missed out on all of the best games in the past decade so there is plenty of stuff to play while we wait for devs to realize we exist. The 2019 seems to handle everything from 2021 back, and my M2 Air can do PS2 and PS3 at full speed.