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Tig Bitties

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I am so tempted to jump in. Just picked up my Silver iPhone 7 Plus last week from T-Mobile I made sure it was on 10.1.1 first and locked it down so it won't force 10.2 on me.

Long time Android Nexus Rooter and ROM'er and want to JB this 7 Plus ASAP.

But I'm probably better off waiting little bit longer for more stable version ?
 
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thadoggfather

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TetherMe works, yay! love the flexibility, like I have on SE.

caveat is it requires a reinstall after a reboot/tether, otherwise personal hotspot is greyed out

Thats OK, I rarely use it but good to have and likely by the time I do there will be an updated Tetherme and Yalu
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I am so tempted to jump in. Just picked up my Silver iPhone 7 Plus last week from T-Mobile I made sure it was on 10.1.1 first and locked it down so it won't force 10.2 on me.

Long time Android Nexus Rooter and ROM'er and want to JB this 7 Plus ASAP.

But I'm probably better off waiting little bit longer for more stable version ?

defeinetly hold off, no offense but to make sure the tvOS provision thing was right took a few questions/replies, and that would be the easiest of many steps of this process to get things running smoothly,

this isn't for the faint of heart, only seasoned jailbreakers that understand how the system goes/ what to mess with and what not to

In my early JB days ,I was installing all kinds of junk, pirated apps included and tweaks. From sketchy repos and ipas that would say sketchy stuff liked [cracked by 0verl0rdzzZzZ]

Really? for 0.99 cent? try and buy is appealing still, but I just hedge my bets off trial ware iphone App Store apps, and run lean on that anyways, and tweaks based on feedback and the dev and concept,

I relied on an ultrasn0w unlock for my carrier locked 4 when I went abroad for 4 months, even did a ballsy tiny umbrella preserve baseband upgrade ,but it shows "failed" on iTunes, which may mean TU worked,

check baseband and version frantically, 4.1 and same baseband so I could keep my phone for the semester!

ultrasn0w was down and dirty, but impressively worked with only a hiccup once or twice ever

Also managed to "brick" my Pro messing with upscale (adjusting resolution, which LittleBrother is better for since it hooks to substrate and not system level stuff, but I won't dare try on iPad anyways works fine on iPhone SE) on 9.3.3, but while signing window was open, so it can happen (having to restore by doing dumb stuff)... luckily I did it while the window was open so its still on 9.3.3 but

and a few cups of coffee dont mean jack to me but means a lot to the devs,

and I've used their supported products for so many iterations, I owe it to them. App Store apps, I dont really install that much beyond my base unless a game goes free or something.
 
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Tig Bitties

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When do you think we might eventually get a stable release for 10.1.1 ? Few days, few weeks, a month ?
 

thadoggfather

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When do you think we might eventually get a stable release for 10.1.1 ? Few days, few weeks, a month ?

id still say within a week abouts, not 1-2 days necessarily,

probably lots of feedback so far, saurik understanding and identifying some faults of the jialbreak too on backend, and maybe other dev's with an invested interest to want to polish this bad boy.

but Luca is still in Germany at his conference thing according to his twitter, without his laptop or something (laptop gate?) so that postpones it.

im so glad I pulled the trigger ,It was a good test of my consumer jailbreaking skills and ability to follow directions,

but dont do it! seriously!! this has a real underground mixtape pre-release candidate grassroots amateur build vibe to it, very experimental sounds for Luca dropping new beats that will no doubt be polarizing and even devastating to some, but I'm finding it charming, in any case

haha:D

https://twitter.com/qwertyoruiopz/status/813537139094908928
https://twitter.com/qwertyoruiopz/status/813538922588499969
 
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TriJetHero

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Personal opinion: Yula JB is not going anywhere.

It is too shaky and a not enough devs are working on it to get it to a stable enough release client. History learns us that JBs might be released when not completely stable but this is released as a very early beta with little progress.
 
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redbeard331

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Personal opinion: Yula JB is not going anywhere.

It is too shaky and a not enough devs are working on it to get it to a stable enough release client. History learns us that JBs might be released when not completely stable but this is released as a very early beta with little progress.

I'm getting that same feeling, one guy working on it in his spare time, some major bugs still. I think it'll eventually come out of beta but that won't be anytime soon. Still hoping they can get Prometheus working again.
 

Tig Bitties

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Personal opinion: Yula JB is not going anywhere.

It is too shaky and a not enough devs are working on it to get it to a stable enough release client. History learns us that JBs might be released when not completely stable but this is released as a very early beta with little progress.


That sucks to hear. I'm new to the JB scene being a former Nexus nerd for years. But this alpha JB released last week does seem strange. Only one dude working on in it and he leaves his laptop behind while off on a long business trip as if he doesn't really care that much about it. Like he'll maybe work on it a little bit when he comes back.

While millions of iPhone Jailbreak'ers are foaming at the mouth for it.

I would think a JB for iOS 10 would be #1 priority and extremely important for developers ? Why is only one guy working on it ?

In Android when the new Pixel phones released tons of developers were working on cracking it to open it up for root and custom recovery to allow Roms. Not just one guy. Same with Sansung phones, which now are super difficult to crack and root but still there's lots of different people trying and working on it, not only one person.

What's up with that ?

Maybe Pangu truly does have a 10.2 stable JB released ready to release soon after Apple officially releases 10.2.1 ?
 

thadoggfather

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I did something crazy last night (in terms of riskiness, but was reading of success from others so): installed anemone (themer) and a modded port of Ayeris theme from requiring winterboard to using anemone since I heard winterboard isn't playing as nice on ios10. Still requires purchase of course (and I bought it a few iOS'es ago) just modified the way it installs. My other theme wasn't working and I suspect most won't but this is one of if not my favorite (only themes icons for now not other UI elements)

zFo90py.jpg


For reference, by UI elements I mean look at dock how Se can do it but not 7+ for now (which has standard dock) -- funny bit too, clock didn't translate to 10 version theme, and calendar didn't translate to SE 9 theme,

I'm sure its a matter of renaming some filenames in a file explorer, but dont really care.

sm4EsZP.jpg
 
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Will22

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That sucks to hear. I'm new to the JB scene being a former Nexus nerd for years. But this alpha JB released last week does seem strange. Only one dude working on in it and he leaves his laptop behind while off on a long business trip as if he doesn't really care that much about it. Like he'll maybe work on it a little bit when he comes back.

While millions of iPhone Jailbreak'ers are foaming at the mouth for it.

I would think a JB for iOS 10 would be #1 priority and extremely important for developers ? Why is only one guy working on it ?

In Android when the new Pixel phones released tons of developers were working on cracking it to open it up for root and custom recovery to allow Roms. Not just one guy. Same with Sansung phones, which now are super difficult to crack and root but still there's lots of different people trying and working on it, not only one person.

What's up with that ?

Maybe Pangu truly does have a 10.2 stable JB released ready to release soon after Apple officially releases 10.2.1 ?

The thing is is that people don't know who is working on what. Pangu and TaiG don't talk about what they are working on, they just release it.

There could be a hole team working on it, we just don't know.
 

TriJetHero

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The thing is is that people don't know who is working on what. Pangu and TaiG don't talk about what they are working on, they just release it.

There could be a hole team working on it, we just don't know.

Not on Yalu...

From Taig and Pangu you never get advance warning...rather the opposite they even surprised Saurik a few times.

There are only few ppl good enough to fix things and none of them are working on it. if there is a near finished JB you will see all kinds of chatter from the community
 
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Tig Bitties

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Not on Yalu...

From Taig and Pangu you never get advance warning...rather the opposite they even surprised Saurik a few times.

There are only few ppl good enough to fix things and none of them are working on it. if there is a near finished JB you will see all kinds of chatter from the community


So your saying nothing's coming out anytime soon ? That sucks.

We're just stuck with the recent beta JB released from last week meant only for developers and not the general public ?

If that's the case maybe I shouldn't have ditched Android last week for my new 7 Plus ? I got the 7 Plus knowing it was on 10.1.1 and hoping the beta JB would eventually become a stable version over next couple weeks ? Or is that not even gonna happen ?
 

thadoggfather

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Not on Yalu...

From Taig and Pangu you never get advance warning...rather the opposite they even surprised Saurik a few times.

There are only few ppl good enough to fix things and none of them are working on it. if there is a near finished JB you will see all kinds of chatter from the community

I honestly initially kinda felt this way too, a talented 17 year old Italian hacker, badass, but limited on relying on his talents alone and may still be true but never know maybe saurik will help considerably. I'm sure creating a jailbreak and having to support as many devices and variations as are out there is a colossal thing to take on.


But I'd
It's a toss up.
 

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Not on Yalu...

From Taig and Pangu you never get advance warning...rather the opposite they even surprised Saurik a few times.

There are only few ppl good enough to fix things and none of them are working on it. if there is a near finished JB you will see all kinds of chatter from the community

This comment clearly shows you have no idea who Luca Todesco is.

This isn't his first jailbreak.
 

Gathomblipoob

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Personal opinion: Yula JB is not going anywhere.

It is too shaky and a not enough devs are working on it to get it to a stable enough release client. History learns us that JBs might be released when not completely stable but this is released as a very early beta with little progress.

I think we're just not used to an open "beta" process with teams such as Pangu and TiaG, so we think it's rougher going than it actually is. Luca has also been traveling without his code, so the added delay for a new beta is frustrating for some people.
 
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Will22

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Not on Yalu...

From Taig and Pangu you never get advance warning...rather the opposite they even surprised Saurik a few times.

There are only few ppl good enough to fix things and none of them are working on it. if there is a near finished JB you will see all kinds of chatter from the community

Really? How do you know they are not working on it? TaiG and Pangu( to my knowledge) have never said they were working on a certain iOS, they just release it. If I'm right then how would you know that nobody is working on it?
 

TriJetHero

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This comment clearly shows you have no idea who Luca Todesco is.

This isn't his first jailbreak.

Assuming what I known or don't know..mmmm o_O

We have had a few single hackers which are so brilliant they do not need anybody else to develop a working jailbreak (geohot/comex) , but for the most part it is a team effort (iphone devteam, chronic, Evad3rs) or commercially driven groups (Taig, Pangu).
Most devs have private jailbreaks anyway, but they are not releasable as they depend on developer tools.

Jailbreaking is though business which takes time, brilliance, luck and perseverance or money.
There is always a bit of competition involved, some do it for the honor of being the first to crack a new firmware others are in it for the money.

With 10.2 out neither is a big challenge at the moment; it would be a jailbreak for an older firmware which makes the honor a bit less. Money wise it is also less interesting for Pangu and Taig as most potential costumers are already on 10.2.

To fix stuff more exploits might be needed, but why waste them on 10.1.1 if they might work on 10.2 or higher?

Combining all together I see little gain in getting the 10.1.1 Jailbreak to a stable enough big release and from the way Luca is going about it I think it will be some time or not even more then the beta.

Still it might happen....:)
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I think we're just not used to an open "beta" process with teams such as Pangu and TiaG, so we think it's rougher going than it actually is. Luca has also been traveling without his code, so the added delay for a new beta is frustrating for some people.

Really? How do you know they are not working on it? TaiG and Pangu( to my knowledge) have never said they were working on a certain iOS, they just release it. If I'm right then how would you know that nobody is working on it?

Jailbreaking goes back a bit further then just Taig or Pangu....
 
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thadoggfather

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If it is permanently a beta, I'd still wait it out a few weeks. Then if you hear nothing/ dead end just make the leap and deal with the hurdles.

At that point what will ya have to lose?

And if a tsmc 6s compatible jailbreak never comes I'd consider a swap for 6s maybe or Genius Bar game or pony up for the 7 But yes this involve $ which one may not have or want to do.

If I lost jailbreak today, for example, I would be scouring for a 7+ 10.1.1 since they're still definitely out there and would probably take a loss selling my current 7+
 

TriJetHero

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Thing is that it was brought as a sure thing, just like prometheus, and in the end it is a deep tech incomplete beta and prometheus sunk in just a few days.

Some people gave up there 9.3.3 semi-tether or even there 9.0.2 untethered JB for this sure thing.
I always try to be careful in advising people to update or not, they might end up without a JB or like you said spending extra money to get a JBable device because it was a sure thing....
 

Tig Bitties

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If it is permanently a beta, I'd still wait it out a few weeks. Then if you hear nothing/ dead end just make the leap and deal with the hurdles.

At that point what will ya have to lose?

And if a tsmc 6s compatible jailbreak never comes I'd consider a swap for 6s maybe or Genius Bar game or pony up for the 7 But yes this involve $ which one may not have or want to do.

If I lost jailbreak today, for example, I would be scouring for a 7+ 10.1.1 since they're still definitely out there and would probably take a loss selling my current 7+


My take on this, I think there will be updated beta's over the next few weeks, improving stability, and I would bet in a few weeks time, even if still a "beta" it will be quite good, and near "stable" usability.

And then there's still that rumor of Pangu releasing a full stable 10.2 JB in early January, after Apple officially releases 10.2.1 soon.
 

thadoggfather

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My take on this, I think there will be updated beta's over the next few weeks, improving stability, and I would bet in a few weeks time, even if still a "beta" it will be quite good, and near "stable" usability.

And then there's still that rumor of Pangu releasing a full stable 10.2 JB in early January, after Apple officially releases 10.2.1 soon.

Hopefully lots and lots of good news around the bend:)
 
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Tig Bitties

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I just can't imagine Luca would just keep this JB as a rough buggy beta and not update it anymore. That would make zero sense to me. Why would a developer release a buggy JB and then never work on it again and not fix and update it over the coming weeks ?
 

TriJetHero

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I just can't imagine Luca would just keep this JB as a rough buggy beta and not update it anymore. That would make zero sense to me. Why would a developer release a buggy JB and then never work on it again and not fix and update it over the coming weeks ?

Maybe because he is busy and it is too much hassle to fix it? From wat I have read he ran in some unexpected problems.
Sometimes effort and exploit fixes don't weigh up to the gain.

But like I said before maybe he will, who knows. Don't forget there are just no guarantees, you get this for free and are not entitled to a stable JB.
 
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