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Yep, I regret updating my 6S to 11.2. Definitely higher battery drain and some lag. Shouldn't have to mess with settings to reduce keyboard lag in the Messages app.. Maybe 11.3 will bring some improvements.

I've not had the battery drain on my 6S+, in fact since I calibrated the battery % counter it has been great. Are you just looking at the battery % or letting it actually turn off? When I first calibrated, mine sat on 2% for ages before turning off. Last photo I took was Usage 6hrs, 32min and Standby 16hrs, 21min and this was using my phone for facebook, internet, emails, etc, just normal usage and I still had 10% left at that. My phone is also over 2 years old now as well, I had it when they came out in Sept 2015.
As for lag, yes I do see some lag sometimes. I get it from unlock to seeing the screen, I get it on the 3D touch first use after an unlock sometimes, whereby the 3D touch will not work or takes seconds to work on the first press, thereafter it works fine. Just edited to add, I have had the keyboard lag in messages however am not getting it now and do not know what stopped it either. Mine is fine now on 11.2 release.
 
Well that’s subjective how one feels about it. I went from charging my 7 Plus once every 1.5 days to charging it twice a day. How am I supposed to not feel angry about this?

You have every right to feel angry about your problems pal. I’m just asking you not to keep saying the same thing over and again in the thread.
A lot of them who are here to actually know the issues with the release don’t care about who posts anything but the posts itself.
So, in a way you’re misleading others. Now that’s not fair for them either. Is it?
 
You have every right to feel angry about your problems pal. I’m just asking you not to keep saying the same thing over and again in the thread.
A lot of them who are here to actually know the issues with the release don’t care about who posts anything but the posts itself.
So, in a way you’re misleading others. Now that’s not fair for them either. Is it?

Yes. And in my 10 year run with iPhone and doing iPhone Genius type work for people free lance - these types of battery drain change complaints are 90% of the time user usage pattern-based. And also users forget that when you update an iOS several key settings return to default and have to reset up your desired settings for your use. Like I always keep Push Mail and Background App Refresh off - on all phones I’ve ever had as they are terrible battery drains. Same for System Location settings in Privacy.,Giant battery drain and yet people don’t even know that window exists and that they really need nothing on in that window but Traffic, Health if you like exercise result and Location based alerts if you use places for alerts. The rest is really just nonsense.

But upgrading to a new firmware resets all those settings back on. Ya gotta reset them to your desired flavor / before you compare battery life.
 
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Yes. And in my 10 year run with iPhone and doing iPhone Genius type work for people free lance - these types of battery drain change complaints are 90% of the time user usage pattern-based. And also users forget that when you update an iOS several key settings return to default and have to reset up your desired settings for your use. Like I always keep Push Mail and Background App Refresh off - on all phones I’ve ever had as they are terrible battery drains. Same for System Location settings in Privacy.,Giant battery drain and yet people don’t even know that window exists and that they really need nothing on in that window but Traffic, Health if you like exercise result and Location based alerts if you use places for alerts. The rest is really just nonsense.

But upgrading to a new firmware resets all those settings back on. Ya gotta reset them to your desired flavor / before you compare battery life.
Agreed with you up until you said that you don’t need any of those settings on except Traffic. Why leave traffic on?
 
Yes. And in my 10 year run with iPhone and doing iPhone Genius type work for people free lance - these types of battery drain change complaints are 90% of the time user usage pattern-based. And also users forget that when you update an iOS several key settings return to default and have to reset up your desired settings for your use. Like I always keep Push Mail and Background App Refresh off - on all phones I’ve ever had as they are terrible battery drains. Same for System Location settings in Privacy.,Giant battery drain and yet people don’t even know that window exists and that they really need nothing on in that window but Traffic, Health if you like exercise result and Location based alerts if you use places for alerts. The rest is really just nonsense.

But upgrading to a new firmware resets all those settings back on. Ya gotta reset them to your desired flavor / before you compare battery life.
Mostly agree but. I see folks from time to time stating push email is bad and dont get how that is. The device is not checking for mail in that condition but the servers are pushing messages as needed. So having fetch every x min would actually be worse because the device is firing off a check whether there is anything new or not. Just dont get how the device set to push causes any type or drain since its just waiting on things to get pushed. Any more info or explanation you have on that topic??
 
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You have every right to feel angry about your problems pal. I’m just asking you not to keep saying the same thing over and again in the thread.
A lot of them who are here to actually know the issues with the release don’t care about who posts anything but the posts itself.
So, in a way you’re misleading others. Now that’s not fair for them either. Is it?
When you guys are posting over and over in this thread that 11.2 is perfect and as good as 10.3.3 in replies to posts you can damn well be sure I will post with my experience of the OS. Or is this thread just for positive comments? And who decides what’s mmisleading content? Saying 11.2 is as good as 10.3.3 is misleading in my book.
Yes. And in my 10 year run with iPhone and doing iPhone Genius type work for people free lance - these types of battery drain change complaints are 90% of the time user usage pattern-based. And also users forget that when you update an iOS several key settings return to default and have to reset up your desired settings for your use. Like I always keep Push Mail and Background App Refresh off - on all phones I’ve ever had as they are terrible battery drains. Same for System Location settings in Privacy.,Giant battery drain and yet people don’t even know that window exists and that they really need nothing on in that window but Traffic, Health if you like exercise result and Location based alerts if you use places for alerts. The rest is really just nonsense.

But upgrading to a new firmware resets all those settings back on. Ya gotta reset them to your desired flavor / before you compare battery life.

There is no usage related anomaly in my case. I have disabled every battery draining setting throughout the OS right down to Siri suggestions and it did nothing meaningful to improve battery.
 
When you guys are posting over and over in this thread that 11.2 is perfect and as good as 10.3.3 in replies to posts you can damn well be sure I will post with my experience of the OS. Or is this thread just for positive comments? And who decides what’s mmisleading content? Saying 11.2 is as good as 10.3.3 is misleading in my book.
He’s got a good point everyone. Lets stop arguing about one person’s experience compared to another and which is “correct” because there is no right answer.

@Radon87000, many people are calling you out for over exaggerating your problems with iOS 11. I have never questioned that the issues you are having are real, but you seem to use words like “ruined” or “unusable” quite often. I know that you have your opinion as to what those words mean to you, but those words also have true definitions which differ significantly from yours. That is why many people are upset with you.

I have a feeling that if you tone down the hysterics, it will increase the perception of legitimacy with regards to your issues with iOS 11.
 
Agreed with you up until you said that you don’t need any of those settings on except Traffic. Why leave traffic on?

People don’t understand what “Traffic” is for. Most misunderstood button. When on it doesn’t tell YOU more about traffic patterns but reports YOUR car as part of the whole traffic pattern others are seeing in their Maps app. So - agreed - not “necessary” but helpful for others.
 
When you guys are posting over and over in this thread that 11.2 is perfect and as good as 10.3.3 in replies to posts you can damn well be sure I will post with my experience of the OS. Or is this thread just for positive comments? And who decides what’s mmisleading content? Saying 11.2 is as good as 10.3.3 is misleading in my book.

Nobody ever said 11.2 is “perfect”. Just that it’s working fine enough for them. Repeating your problems over and again and telling others to not update isn’t going to stop your battery drain. Troubleshooting does.
And please don’t generalize, it’s considered rude.
 
Mostly agree but. I see folks from time to time stating push email is bad and dont get how that is. The device is not checking for mail in that condition but the servers are pushing messages as needed. So having fetch every x min would actually be worse because the device is firing off a check whether there is anything new or not. Just dont get how the device set to push causes any type or drain since its just waiting on things to get pushed. Any more info or explanation you have on that topic??
I should have been more clear.. the alternative that saves battery huge over PUSH.. is FETCH - set to MANUAL. No mail is delivered until you open app. Serious battery saver for me over many years. 5-10% an hour savings.
 
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There is no usage related anomaly in my case. I have disabled every battery draining setting throughout the OS right down to Siri suggestions and it did nothing meaningful to improve battery.

Have you tried setting it up as a new device?
 
People don’t understand what “Traffic” is for. Most misunderstood button. When on it doesn’t tell YOU more about traffic patterns but reports YOUR car as part of the whole traffic pattern others are seeing in their Maps app. So - agreed - not “necessary” but helpful for others.
Yes, I know this which is why I find it odd that is the only setting that you recommend leaving on when it has no benefit to you and just drains your battery argueable more than all of the other system location setting that are designed to help others.
 
I should have been more clear.. the alternative that saves battery huge over PUSH.. is FETCH - set to MANUAL. No mail is delivered until you open app. Serious battery saver for me over 10 years. 5-10% an hour savings.
Yeah I used to always have fetch>manual in the past but didn't really see any significant difference with battery. Now I only have outlook.com email set as push (and iCloud services, no iCloud mail). Also use the gmail app just to be notified with tone and badge when there is new mail (work acct) since the native mail app doesn't support push for gmail. Of course getting email only when asking for it would be the best for battery unless one checks often to see if there is mail that is needing attention but push potentially keeps you from checking it randomly.

I was more asking about why push would cause "huge drain" as mentioned.
 
Yes, I know this which is why I find it odd that is the only setting that you recommend leaving on when it has no benefit to you and just drains your battery argueable more than all of the other system location setting that are designed to help others.

Yeah.. fair point. I just think it’s an important “community” thing for you to report your position in the traffic. Maybe just me. And of all the items in that window it’s not the greatest of the drainers. But your point is correct - not “necessary”.
 
I’ve noticed that the vibration when receiving a text message is different on iOS 11.2 than previous versions. The second vibration seems delayed when compared to how it used to be. Not sure if this is a bug or was done on purpose.

Most of my stock vibration patterns have been playing improperly since I started using 11.2 in beta. The issue persists with the public release. I submitted a bug report and am now using custom patterns.
 
“Push” is quite deceiving as it’s not your device that does the hard work anymore. It’s all server side.
 
Yeah I used to always have fetch>manual in the past but didn't really see any significant difference with battery. Now I only have outlook.com email set as push (and iCloud services, no iCloud mail). Also use the gmail app just to be notified with tone and badge when there is new mail (work acct) since the native mail app doesn't support push for gmail. Of course getting email only when asking for it would be the best for battery unless one checks often to see if there is mail that is needing attention but push potentially keeps you from checking it randomly.

I was more asking about why push would cause "huge drain" as mentioned.

Not sure why.. as I’m not a hardware/software designer... But I am a QA Specialist/Beta Test specialist - even having worked for Apple in that role in the late 80’s.. And I’ve done extensive side by side testing with two identical iPhones on same firmware, same settings starting with identical battery charge levels. And the drains I report with Push on versus Manual are from empirical data. Not just “feeling” there’s a difference. Trust a former Apple beta test specialist on this one.. lol.. I do very careful testing.
 
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I may have spoken too soon - mine has been working intermittently today (when it had not been working at all so it's still better but not completely fixed). I think I've noticed a pattern - when I launch the weather app and I see the spinner in the status bar, it seems the weather widget fails. When the spinner is not present, it works correctly.

iOSBry

I would report this exactly as you did here. Seems relevant.
 
When the iOS 12 would be released, then we should be on iOS 11.3.3 which would be released around July 2018.
In other words, Apple is forcing us to lag by one complete iOS cycle to be on a nearly error free software.

No. No they’re not.
 
iOS 11.2

Release Date — December 2 2017
Build Number — 15C114
Darwin Kernel Version — 17.3.0: Mon Nov 6 21:19:16 PST 2017

New Features & Changes
  • Shutdown animation on iPhone X
New Issues
  • iPhone X resprings when fast-app-switched to a mobile-web-app-capable website.
  • 3D Touch multitasking works with one pressure level. If you apply pressure at bottom left of screen, it Directly brings up multitasking. Previously I remember applying slight pressure and increasing pressure to bring up multitasking.
  • Breaks camera focusing for some users
    • multiple users say "reset all settings" fixes this for them
    • multiple users say removing their case which has magnets fixes it for them
    • multiple users say neither of the above fixes it for them
Remaining Issues
  • Mail app - checking for mail/Updated just now not centered in bottom status bar (Cosmetic GUI bug)
  • Mail app - Filter options not properly aligned (Cosmetic GUI bug)
  • Third party widgets not updating properly (may require app developer to fix)
  • Weather widget not updating properly (not all users affected)
  • Mail app- scheduled fetch and notifications not working for favorited folders. Feature deactivated since 11.x.
  • Burst photos are still save as jpeg instead of .heic when High Effciency is selected in the settings. Same behavior as ios 11.0
Resolved Issues
  • iPad Zoom leaving partial screen unzoomed FIXED

  • Qualcomm iPhone 7 Plus: 3.42.00
  • Qualcomm iPhone 7: 3.42.00
  • Intel iPhone 7 Plus: 2.02.04
  • Intel iPhone 7: 2.02.04
  • Qualcomm iPhone 8 Plus: 1.62.00
  • Intel iPhone 8 Plus: 1.03.05
  • Qualcomm iPhone X: 1.62.00
  • Intel iPhone X: 1.03.06
  • iPhone SE: 6.30.4
  • iPhone 6 Plus: 6.30.4
  • iPhone 6: 6.30.4
  • iPhone 6S/6S Plus: 4.30.02

United States
  • Verizon - 31.1
  • Verizon iPads - 30.5
  • T-Mobile - 31.1
  • AT&T - 31.1
  • MetroPCS -
  • U.S. Cellular - 30.5.1
  • Sprint - 31.0
United Kingdom
  • O2-UK -
  • BT-UK - 31.0
  • Three - 31.0
  • EE - 31.0
  • Vodafone UK -
Canada
  • Videotron -
  • Rogers - 31.0
  • Fido - 31.0
  • Bell -
  • Telus - 31.1
France
  • Orange France -
Germany
  • O2-DE -
  • Vodafone.de - 31.0
  • Telekom.de
Netherlands
  • KPN -
Southeast Asia
  • Singapore Singtel -
  • Philippines Globe - 31.0
  • Thailand AIS -
Sweden
  • Comviq -
  • Tre - 31.0
Ireland
  • Meteor
Australia
  • Optus - 30.5.1
  • Telstra - 31.0
Turkey
  • Turkcell (Lifecell) - 31.0
  • Vodafone TR - 31.0
  • Turk Telekom - 31.0
Poland
  • T-Mobile - 31.0
  • Orange - 31.0
  • Play - 31.0
India
  • Airtel - 31.0
  • Jio - 31.0 (previously 30.5.2)
Mexico
  • Mexico - Telcel - 31.0
Guatemala
  • TIGO GT - 31.0
Other
  • Docomo -
  • AlwaysOnline -
Weather widget is still not working in my iPhone 5s and battery life is too short...
 
The stock weather widget doesn’t seem to refresh the location & temp on my X. I do have the background refresh and location on and everything else in settings.

Downloaded a different weather app and tested their widget. It works fine.

Seems to be an issue with Apple's weather widget.
 
Can anyone on an iPhone 7 plus check if their device becomes warm near the Apple logo when browsing Safari? The heat is noticeable.
 
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