iOS 11 a foreshadow of an underwhelming 10 year iPhone release?

[jr866gooner]

Titanium backup needs root? Correct? Do you need to void your apple warranty to completely clone your setup from one iOS device to another?

I think the problem lies where apple have maybe 10 or so devices to build for. They make all hardware and software for these phones and get them fluid! Android is spread across so many manufacturers developers and such that it's hard to make one size fits all.

Both have positives and minus's.

Less choice and more expense for one platform and more choice less expense for another.

I love android a lot. It was my first true OS. Simbian doesn't count in my book lol

I try to alternate my contract upgrades to either OS and see the changes and benefits of both platforms.

It just so happens my next two years will be iOS as right now that suits my current situation

Wife and inlaws are all on iOS currently to sending pics of the grandchildren is far easier in the native message app rather than trying to get them into WhatsApp.

Still I use what's app a lot and it helps with cross platform.

Oh and I find some (not all) apps a little poorer on android. iOS seems more polished. My challenge in the last two years was frustrating trying to find a Twitter app as smooth and solid as tweetbot...It doesn't exist in the android world.

 

[CTHarrryH]

Can you imagine how empty and dull places like Macrumors would be if Apple gave people everything they wanted?

 

[I7guy]

Works the same as on iOS. If he cant connect to wifi on Android, he will face the same problem on iOS

Why does an ios user care about connecting to android?

Fortunately the S8 wont be unusable in 2019 unlike the current iPhones

You have no guarantee on that.

Already fixed in a software update

Lag, battery issues.


Titanium Backup

Does it work with all relevant operating systems in existence?

Does it work seamlessly with relevant operating systems?

Or getting demolished in display tests

Spec sheet excitement only.

 

[Radon87000]

Why does an ios user care about connecting to android?

You misunderstood. I mean if a user is not able to connect to wifi on Android, he wont be able to connect on iOS as they work the same. So when your friend cant connect naa S8 to wifi he wont be able to connect an iPhone either

You have no guarantee on that.

My iPhone 6 and Galaxy S6 beg to differ

Lag, battery issues.

The S8 has better battery life than the iPhone 7 Plus. There are zero lags anywhere on both phones although that will change in future

Does it work seamlessly with relevant operating systems?

Works perfectly. Cant imagine living without Skype

Spec sheet excitement only.

Having the best display on the planet has nothing to do with a spec sheet
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This is so funny. LOL. I have had so many android phones. Of course, I had an Samsung for work, but they had us all switch to iPhones, why? Security. What does that tell you. But come on, there is no way that one can say the current iPhones will not be usable in 2019. Seriously.

I still use Samsung for work and have faced zero issues. In fact the Android OS fits better into my workflow thanks to the ability to download custom file formats and viewing 2 apps simultaneously and also a proper file manager

The security issues on Android are overblown and nothing but media hyperbole. I have had generations of Android phones and have never been infected
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Titanium backup needs root? Correct? Do you need to void your apple warranty to completely clone your setup from one iOS device to another?

The only advantage I am seeing on iOS is that the backup also restores savegames otherwise all my apps and games are auto downloaded when I sign in to Google on a new phone

I think the problem lies where apple have maybe 10 or so devices to build for. They make all hardware and software for these phones and get them fluid! Android is spread across so many manufacturers developers and such that it's hard to make one size fits all.

Thats not a problem. Its the beauty of Android. Google even made an advertisement on it.Most of the features you see on iPhone are borrowed from these devices

I love fragmentation as it doesnt trap me into any OS unlike Apple and slow down my device

Both have positives and minus's.

Less choice and more expense for one platform and more choice less expense for another.

I love android a lot. It was my first true OS. Simbian doesn't count in my book lol

I try to alternate my contract upgrades to either OS and see the changes and benefits of both platforms.

It just so happens my next two years will be iOS as right now that suits my current situation

Wife and inlaws are all on iOS currently to sending pics of the grandchildren is far easier in the native message app rather than trying to get them into WhatsApp.

Still I use what's app a lot and it helps with cross platform.

Oh and I find some (not all) apps a little poorer on android. iOS seems more polished. My challenge in the last two years was frustrating trying to find a Twitter app as smooth and solid as tweetbot...It doesn't exist in the android world.

I have used Windows Phone and iOS and Android too. iOS is good but when I am in a fix or just dont want to jump through hoops to get a simple task done I go to Android. Ability to set default apps. Real widgets which refresh in real time and not just when I scroll over them. A proper file manager. Ability to view 2 apps simultaneously. NFC, wireless charging. All of these are features where iOS is lacking and could make a huge difference.

Apps quality is no doubt better on iOS.

 

[Paul Dawkins]

I'm sure there are iPhone 8 specific features in iOS 11 no one can see. Could be even your beloved dark mode or something.

 

[I7guy]

You misunderstood. I mean if a user is not able to connect to wifi on Android, he wont be able to connect on iOS as they work the same. So when your friend cant connect naa S8 to wifi he wont be able to connect an iPhone either

I see what you are saying, but not necessarily true.

My iPhone 6 and Galaxy S6 beg to differ

Still can't predict the future from an anecdotal experience.

The S8 has better battery life than the iPhone 7 Plus. There are zero lags anywhere on both phones although that will change in future

In which tests or your anecdotal experience?

Works perfectly. Cant imagine living without Skype

Don't have to worry about third party solutions on iOS.

Having the best display on the planet has nothing to do with a spec sheet

Yes it does. But having the best soc on the planet along with the most accurate display is a better combo.

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I still use Samsung for work and have faced zero issues. In fact the Android OS fits better into my workflow thanks to the ability to download custom file formats and viewing 2 apps simultaneously and also a proper file manager

The security issues on Android are overblown and nothing but media hyperbole. I have had generations of Android phones and have never been infected

Again, making a general statement based on anecdotal experience.

Thats not a problem. Its the beauty of Android. Google even made an advertisement on it.Most of the features you see on iPhone are borrowed from these devices

I love fragmentation as it doesnt trap me into any OS unlike Apple and slow down my device

Sounds more like a hinderance than a positive.

I have used Windows Phone and iOS and Android too. iOS is good but when I am in a fix or just dont want to jump through hoops to get a simple task done I go to Android. Ability to set default apps. Real widgets which refresh in real time and not just when I scroll over them. A proper file manager. Ability to view 2 apps simultaneously. NFC, wireless charging. All of these are features where iOS is lacking and could make a huge difference.

Apps quality is no doubt better on iOS.

All well and good, but when I need to do "real stuff" that I would have to jump through hoops in android, I take out my MacBook.

 

[eltoslightfoot]

17guy summed this up pretty well. The only thing I would add is that clearly enterprise workplaces disagree with you. My employer would not get rid of all android phones lightly. They have thousands to redeploy when that happens. They did it based off what the data was telling them.

 

[Radon87000]

I see what you are saying, but not necessarily true.

Connecting to wifi has the same steps on both iOS and Android. I fail to see how its not true

Still can't predict the future from an anecdotal experience.

iOS devices slowing down is a fact which is splattered all over the Internet

In which tests or your anecdotal experience?

Don't have to worry about third party solutions on iOS.

But you have to worry about compatibility problems with the world's most popular desktop OS

Yes it does. But having the best soc on the planet along with the most accurate display is a better combo.

Having the best design on the planet coupled with the best display is unbeatable. Color accuracv is one metric. The S8 blows away the iPhone in overall metrics.

Again, making a general statement based on anecdotal experience.

If the infection possibility was as high as the media suggests Android wouldnt have taken almost half marketshare in the US. Nothing but alternative facts

Sounds more like a hinderance than a positive.

The lack of choice on iOS sounds like a hindrance to me. You have to shell out over a grand to get the best phone on the block now

All well and good, but when I need to do "real stuff" that I would have to jump through hoops in android, I take out my MacBook.

And you are lugging around a huge laptop while I am getting stuff done on a less than a pound mobile device which converts into a PC via Dex

 

[eoblaed]

I was more excited for iOS to be discussed during WWDC than any previous iOS. There has been so much hype about "iPhone 8" and what could be of it, that I thought for sure we'd be blown away with Apple FINALLY modernizing the OS. I get it, it works, but each passing year iOS lags further and further behind Android's feature list.

After watching the keynote and seeing what Apple has up its sleeves for iOS 11, I'm a bit skeptical that the iPhone 8 (or whatever they'll call it this fall) will live up to the hype that people are making it out to be. For three years now, Apple has delivered consistently unremarkable updates to iPhone. If this year's iOS preview is any indication of what's coming, I think we're all in for a disappointing September\October.

I hope I'm wrong.

First of all, I love a lot of the new features coming in iOS 11.

Secondly, keep in mind that each major iOS release announcement always leaves out a lot of the cool features as they would leak features of the upcoming phones. In other words, there will be more stuff in iOS 11 that we haven't yet heard about to support new capabilities of the iPhone '8' (or whatever it's going to be called).

 

[I7guy]

Connecting to wifi has the same steps on both iOS and Android. I fail to see how its not true

Different hardware and software will look result in different results.

iOS devices slowing down is a fact which is splattered all over the Internet

Except for iOS 9, 10, 11.

Except when it isn't.

But you have to worry about compatibility problems with the world's most popular desktop OS

I only worry about compatibility wi H my Mac, iPad, at, aw and other idevices.

Having the best design on the planet coupled with the best display is unbeatable. Color accuracv is one metric. The S8 blows away the iPhone in overall metrics.

It's not a goof looking phone, imo, no characters. The iPhone has the best soc on the planet, a year old 6s blows away an s8.

If the infection possibility was as high as the media suggests Android wouldnt have taken almost half marketshare in the US. Nothing but alternative facts

Just ask those whose phone was infected.

The lack of choice on iOS sounds like a hindrance to me. You have to shell out over a grand to get the best phone on the block now

You mean ease and simplicity?

And you are lugging around a huge laptop while I am getting stuff done on a less than a pound mobile device which converts into a PC via Dex

So you're going to lug around dex to the middle of the desert? Including another monitor? My Mac makes dex look like a tinker toy.

 

[aevan]

I was more excited for iOS to be discussed during WWDC than any previous iOS. There has been so much hype about "iPhone 8" and what could be of it, that I thought for sure we'd be blown away with Apple FINALLY modernizing the OS. I get it, it works, but each passing year iOS lags further and further behind Android's feature list.

After watching the keynote and seeing what Apple has up its sleeves for iOS 11, I'm a bit skeptical that the iPhone 8 (or whatever they'll call it this fall) will live up to the hype that people are making it out to be. For three years now, Apple has delivered consistently unremarkable updates to iPhone. If this year's iOS preview is any indication of what's coming, I think we're all in for a disappointing September\October.

I hope I'm wrong.

I don't know what you're talking about, iOS 11 is the best iOS yet, one I've been waiting for - for years. Finally an iOS designed towards productivity and creativity that moves it away from a "mobile os" into something people can really use for more than just consumption. Next iPhone will be nice and shiny and packed with great stuff, but iOS history will remember this year as the year iOS started on a path to become the next thing in computing.

 

[chriscrowlee]

I don't know what you're talking about, iOS 11 is the best iOS yet, one I've been waiting for - for years. Finally an iOS designed towards productivity and creativity that moves it away from a "mobile os" into something people can really use for more than just consumption. Next iPhone will be nice and shiny and packed with great stuff, but iOS history will remember this year as the year iOS started on a path to become the next thing in computing.

Were we watching the same iOS introduction? Your response is something I'd expect from someone who say the Windows Tablet OS for the first time... a real full-featured OS. iOS 11 on iPad and iPhone is nothing more than iOS 10.5. It's got a couple extra features, but never ever heard anyone call it "an iOS designed towards productivity and creativity that moves it away from a "mobile os" into something people can really use for more than just consumption" as there's nothing about it that is in line with that comment.
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First of all, I love a lot of the new features coming in iOS 11.

Secondly, keep in mind that each major iOS release announcement always leaves out a lot of the cool features as they would leak features of the upcoming phones. In other words, there will be more stuff in iOS 11 that we haven't yet heard about to support new capabilities of the iPhone '8' (or whatever it's going to be called).

Absolutely. But the nature of iOS is that since its inception it's been an OS built on an OS built on an OS, so for someone to say it's not the best iOS yet would be silly.

But it's not the WOW OS many were expecting. I sure as heck hope the WOW is a bunch of customizable features like moving icons wherever I want. Not having icons that look like they're for a visually impaired person because they're so big. Being able to put widgets within my home screen... you know, stuff that many people like being able to do on their desktop, and of course any competitor's OS.

I'm not saying iOS is bad, I'm just saying it's nothing Amazing. Since the first iOS, the general look and feel of the home screen and lock screen hasn't changed. Why is it that resolution has updated 5 times in 10 years, yet I'm still forced to have child-looking 4 across icons. Sure I have big fingers, but those big icons on a 5+ inch screen look like it's a special-needs phone.

 

[aevan]

Were we watching the same iOS introduction?

Obviously we didn't. Drag & drop will literally change how we work on iOS. And Files? On iOS?

What were you expecting? New icons and a dark mode??

 

[aevan]

I'm not saying iOS is bad, I'm just saying it's nothing Amazing.

I'm not saying the central nervous system is bad.... I'm just saying that I still can't manipulate objects with my mind. That's all I'm saying.

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Oh please. That image is used by Android fanboys who don't understand good design.

You do understand you're in a very small minority, right? Check around the net - what is it that people see in iOS 11 when they say it will fundamentally change the way we use iOS?

As someone who uses iPad Pro for my work, I can tell you that drag & drop opens up a whole new way of using apps - it actually changes the whole app metaphor. Instead of looking for that one ultimate app for my work, a few specialised apps that can be used simultaneously by naturally dragging elements back and forth is a true game changer. So is the well thought out multitasking interface that not only rivals macOS, in many ways it surpasses it. Finally, "Files" is something I've been waiting on iOS since.... well, iOS. And, as if that wasn't enough we get that amazing screenshot + annotation feature that will really help me with giving feedback - finally I can region-SS on iOS, do markup, discard it after - and since it fits well with the whole natural input of iOS 11, it fits so seamlessly into my workflow that it became second nature minutes after installing the beta.

Changing how the layout of the home screen looks does not fundamentally change the usage of a device. These things I mentioned do. Unless, you know, you're in the green camp and think widgets on a home screen are important.

 

[Radon87000]

Different hardware and software will look result in different results.

What does hardware and software have to do with a simple task such as connecting to wifi. Honestly even my Lumia 710 from 2011 has the same steps to do it

Except for iOS 9, 10, 11.


Except when it isn't.

The speed tests on youtube prove you wrong. By the way just installed iOS 11 on my Air 2. Slowed down even more. No noticeable difference on 7 Plus as of yet

I only worry about compatibility wi H my Mac, iPad, at, aw and other idevices.

I dont need to worry about anything as Skype works everywhere

It's not a goof looking phone, imo, no characters. The iPhone has the best soc on the planet, a year old 6s blows away an s8.

So the iPhone 8 wont be good looking? The renders show them to be pretty much the same design wise. A year old 6S cant do half of what the S8 can do. When you are able to attach files directly via file manager , let mek now

Just ask those whose phone was infected.

Just like how a phone breaks if you try to break it, an Android gets infected if I try to infect it. If I jailbreak my iPhone and then pull stunts on the web and it gets infected I shouldnt complain

You mean ease and simplicity?

iOS 11 is more complex than 10. As iOS keeps borrowing more and more from Android it will become the same way. You cant add features whilst meaintaining the same level of simplicity and as Android is packed to the core with future iOS features naturally its not as simple

So you're going to lug around dex to the middle of the desert?

Dex is just a tool in the toolbox as Android on its own does almost everything Windows does

Including another monitor? My Mac makes dex look like a tinker toy.

If I lug around my desktop I will also state my desktop makes a Mac look like trash
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I don't know what you're talking about, iOS 11 is the best iOS yet, one I've been waiting for - for years. Finally an iOS designed towards productivity and creativity that moves it away from a "mobile os" into something people can really use for more than just consumption. Next iPhone will be nice and shiny and packed with great stuff, but iOS history will remember this year as the year iOS started on a path to become the next thing in computing.

It doesnt even come close to what an actual computer can do.

 

[I7guy]

What does hardware and software have to do with a simple task such as connecting to wifi. Honestly even my Lumia 710 from 2011 has the same steps to do it

Hardware and software perform differently on different devices.

The speed tests on youtube prove you wrong. By the way just installed iOS 11 on my Air 2. Slowed down even more. No noticeable difference on 7 Plus as of yet

Benchmarks prove me right.

I dont need to worry about anything as Skype works everywhere

Sure unless the receiving party doesn't have Skype or you want to the government to hear your calls.

So the iPhone 8 wont be good looking? The renders show them to be pretty much the same design wise. A year old 6S cant do half of what the S8 can do. When you are able to attach files directly via file manager , let mek now

Do you know what it will look like? It has to be better looking than the s8.

Just like how a phone breaks if you try to break it, an Android gets infected if I try to infect it. If I jailbreak my iPhone and then pull stunts on the web and it gets infected I shouldnt complain

Android has more critical vulnerabilities, according to cve.

iOS 11 is more complex than 10. As iOS keeps borrowing more and more from Android it will become the same way. You cant add features whilst meaintaining the same level of simplicity and as Android is packed to the core with future iOS features naturally its not as simple

That's apples specialty, adding features while not dramatically increasing the complexity.

Dex is just a tool in the toolbox as Android on its own does almost everything Windows does

Except that what it doesn't do is the 90% most people need.

If I lug around my desktop I will also state my desktop makes a Mac look like trash
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It doesnt even come close to what an actual computer can do.

So lug around your desktop, in the meantime my MacBook Air is the perfect companion to my idevices.

 

[MadRed]

People who love iOS do not take the time to really understand what a smart phone in 2017 should be.

I have both iPhone 7 and Galaxy S8.

Let me tell you that iOS wins based on easy of use and Apple's services (iCloud, FaceTime, iMessages and etc.) However, S8 wins on trying to be a smart phone and not a semi-smart phone. Smart features like keeping the phone unlocked in a known location is a great example of S8 being a smart phone.

You can teach S8 to know your car via Bluetooth, you home and work via location, it can detect being on a person and all of that allows it to stay unlocked so you can use it quickly. It's SMART thus smart feature of a Smart phone.

Also, having an ability to split screen even on a regular S8 is great. Samsung Pay is way better because it work everywhere unlike Apple Pay which requires special readers.

But how about an ability to close all open apps with one "Close All" option? That is just silly on Apple's part not to have it.

How about ability to choose contact group in which new contact gets created without having to uncheck all groups and only choose the one you want and then add the contact. It a small but logical feature to have. You do have an ability to pick the calendar for a new event from a dropdown box, why not do the same for contacts?

iOS has become very gimmicky. Currently I am on iOS 11 and the messaging app is a cluster ****. Who needs all that crap in there. Messages app needs to have an option to turn all that non-sense off. Majority of people don't use it and will never find a way to turn it off (currently there is no way to turn it off)

iOS 11's control center is UGLY and unorganized. Couldn't apple just steal the design of control center from Android? Make it nice and clean.

Siri is very bad. Google assistant is way ahead in recognizing speech. Siri is still learning, but it must have some sort of learning disability, because it keeps asking me who my wife is, even after many, many times I have told her.

Bixby sucks terribly, but it has not had time.

I short, I think both Android and iOS have its strengths. But it seems google is taking chances and trying to make the phone more useful by adding new meaningful things to Android. Apple seems to be stuck in revamping the old iOS and making it more gimmicky than useful.

Changes to iOS 11 are very basic.

Paying with message is great but there are other ways of doing it.
Messages app is just silly.
Music app is a disaster on both platforms.
Siri needs higher education.
Control center should have bee left the same but with added customization.
Add some smart features. Phone should know at very least my home, work and car. that could change phone's behavior like trigger hotspot when in the car.
Smart Unlocking should be a must.
Some basic widgets on the screen, like weather.
Multi app screen

Just to name a few things that would make it better.

 

[aevan]

It doesnt even come close to what an actual computer can do.

Really?

It's different than a PC, that's true. For some things it's worse, for others - for the first time - it's actually better. And that's the whole point.

Seriously, what were you expecting?

Either your expectations are too high or you don't understand what iOS is designed for. Either way you're equally wrong.

 

[MadRed]

Really?

It's different than a PC, that's true. For some things it's worse, for others - for the first time - it's actually better. And that's the whole point.

Seriously, what were you expecting?

Either your expectations are too high or you don't understand what iOS is designed for. Either way you're equally wrong.

Read one post above yours. Why are you so against improving iOS?

Changing Control Center is not improvement it’s a redisign (re-shuffling the deck).

Maybe iOS is for you the way it is, because you seem to be MISSING the ability to think outside the Apple box. That’s fine also, but don’t go around asking what other people are expecting because you will never understand them.

 

[aevan]

Read one post above yours. Why are you so against improving iOS?

This is a logical fallacy. If I say that the new iOS is a great improvement, that does not, in any way, mean that I am against improving it. This is kindergarten level of discussion.

In fact, what I think is totally oposite: iOS 11 is a stepping ground for further improvement, almost a philosophical shift that opens the door for what iOS can be in the future. If it stood frozen like this and didn't improve, it would be very, very wrong. However, with Apple changing its stance on files, with allowing iOS to become more complicated in order to become more powerful, and with a game changing drag & drop (it is a lot more than just moving a file from one app to another, due to the way it is implemented, it has the potential to change how we look at multi-app projects).... iOS is starting to become the next thing in computing. And that's just the UX, there are internal changes like variable refresh rates, Metal 2, etc. However, it clearly has a long way to go still.

With all these significant changes, OP doesn't engage an intelligent discussion about design, but instead gives an image of iOS home screens, which is exactly the level of oversimplification that trivialises productivity changes to "it looks the same". It is equivalent to those images of all iPhone generations looking similar, as compared to Android phones, disregarding all technological shifts that happen internally.


Your response is even better: "Why are you so against improving iOS". Yes, that's exactly what I stand for. Totally.

Speaking metaphorically, Apple is finally opening a door to the future of iOS, and instead of looking in that future, you're criticizing that the door kinda looks the same as the old one.

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People who love iOS do not take the time to really understand what a smart phone in 2017 should be.

We're so lucky to have you teach us.

I'm sorry man, you lost me at "Android". Have a good day.

 

[chriscrowlee]

I'm not saying the central nervous system is bad.... I'm just saying that I still can't manipulate objects with my mind. That's all I'm saying.



Oh please. That image is used by Android fanboys who don't understand good design.

You do understand you're in a very small minority, right? Check around the net - what is it that people see in iOS 11 when they say it will fundamentally change the way we use iOS?

As someone who uses iPad Pro for my work, I can tell you that drag & drop opens up a whole new way of using apps - it actually changes the whole app metaphor. Instead of looking for that one ultimate app for my work, a few specialised apps that can be used simultaneously by naturally dragging elements back and forth is a true game changer. So is the well thought out multitasking interface that not only rivals macOS, in many ways it surpasses it. Finally, "Files" is something I've been waiting on iOS since.... well, iOS. And, as if that wasn't enough we get that amazing screenshot + annotation feature that will really help me with giving feedback - finally I can region-SS on iOS, do markup, discard it after - and since it fits well with the whole natural input of iOS 11, it fits so seamlessly into my workflow that it became second nature minutes after installing the beta.

Changing how the layout of the home screen looks does not fundamentally change the usage of a device. These things I mentioned do. Unless, you know, you're in the green camp and think widgets on a home screen are important.

I guess expectations are easy to surpass in Serbia. Sorry, but the numbers don't lie, iOS is becoming tired and stale.

 

[aevan]

I guess expectations are easy to surpass in Serbia.

Very low blow, very insulting.

A politically incorrect, personal attack as a replacement for arguments and a real discussion. We're done.

 

[eltoslightfoot]

I guess expectations are easy to surpass in Serbia. Sorry, but the numbers don't lie, iOS is becoming tired and stale.

Actually if anything the numbers all point the other direction. Your argument has more potential on anything but the numbers.
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Very low blow, very insulting.

A politically incorrect, personal attack as a replacement for arguments and a real discussion. We're done.

Yeah, I don't get this one at all. Kind of lame to go after someone's nationality.

 

[oplix]

Again the Android syndrome. Customizing is the buzz word here and it seems it won't fade away.Dudes, go and get a shining S8 and you'll be so glad. It's like having a very very boring wife and keep staying married to her year after year 'for the kids sake' when they're in their 20's. You love her, then accept her for what she is. Do you really believe cutomizing is all there is to a phone? One should praise Apple for not complying to all those whistles and bells demands that are skins, themes, rows, lanes, one million alert sounds and all. Much less problems and more fluidity. What should be discussed here is the important fact that Apple could slow downs Qualcomm modems used in iPhone 8 pin order to have the same performances of Intel modems. That is more important to me than customizing a row of icons. Gee, I can get carried away sometimes. My French blood I guess.

WTF are you talking about? SMH

 

[AppleChic76]

With loads of customizations comes instability. Look at wake locks and how hard google has tried to tackle that alone and you start to see why apple does things the way they do. If you want custom go android. I want stable.

Truth told, the only thing you can do on Android that I want to be able to do on Apple is customize my text messages (colors, background pictures, etc). Apple needs to get with the program there. Other than that, I'm quite happy not having those weird kiddie fonts all over my phone like Android allows you to.