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Just like with Beta 3, I’ve got Bluetooth turned ON but it’s not paired with anything and the status bar icon is still bold instead of grayed out.

Do we think this is a bug or a permanent change?


Also - the 3D Touch toggle for the alarm clock in Control Center is still broken.
 
Bigger font in Settings/Home Button.

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I agree with you, I am one of those persons who would love dark mode. Because I prefer darker, more subtle gradients and colours. iOS whit all the white space is terrible for me, specially in the night. Every time I open music app at night I almost feel my eyes falling off

The attatched file at the bottom of my post is what I mean. Granted, we still had white in iOS 6 and prior, like in Safari obviously, but it was a lot more disguised in their other apps. Like the subtle pinstripes in settings and messages. It wasn't full on white like we have now, it was light shades of greys and hues of blues etc. which was much more easier on the eye. I think Forstall and whoever else was behind the UI back then realised this. Whoever is behind the UI design now certainly doesn't, so now we have to hope that they compensate with a darker UI option. I think that they're going to because they've made every area of each app even more white, like the Apps in the App Store no longer have any colour which I hate because having colour on each app screen gave them some identity and seperation. Let's hope dark mode is the reason why they've done this.
 

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It’s not too difficult to replace Touch ID here with, say, facial recognition…
The UI update that gave me hope for an on-screen Touch ID sensor on the iPhone 8 is the combination of the new Siri UI color ball where the virtual home button would be is the exact position the new purchase confirmation Touch ID icon is in the, for example, App Store. Instead of a simple popup it's now a card that slides in from the bottom with the Touch ID icon being at the spot you'd expect a home button on an edge-to-edge display.

But there are too many rumors so no one knows. They'll probably do a power button Touch ID, I don't see them outright dropping Touch ID.
 
There is one happy and positive change for me. It pertains to App Switcher behaviour.

Double click to get into app switcher and remove all apps. After the last app goes off, it goes back to home screen on its own. Beautiful!

Not only that, after this when you try to get into app switcher, it does not let you get into it! Splendid!!

These two things have been the most important and needed changes for me so far. :)

In context of the above, there is one issue. Since Handoff icons are not visible on the lock screen anymore, the only way to get to them was the app switcher. Now, if you have closed all apps, you cannot open app switcher, meaning - no handoff. So for that, if it is important, we may need to keep at least one app open.

Also, 3D Touch lag seems to have increased.

Also, the text shortcuts still do not work on 3rd party keyboards.
 
In context of the above, there is one issue. Since Handoff icons are not visible on the lock screen anymore, the only way to get to them was the app switcher. Now, if you have closed all apps, you cannot open app switcher, meaning - no handoff. So for that, if it is important, we may need to keep at least one app open.

Also, 3D Touch lag seems to have increased.

Also, the text shortcuts still do not work on 3rd party keyboards.


I would assume if you have a handoff app open, double clicking possibly reveals handoff on its own.
 
When you 3D Touch to get app shortcuts, is there still a laggy jump in the animation?

There is for me. I think I will restore from an image to be sure.
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3D Touch now working fine on 7+ and you can 3D Touch and scroll and the bug that takes you to wiggle icons is gone.

This is true, to some extent. In Springboard, this is true. The only problem is delay.

However, on lock screen, Outlook popped up an email. I 3D Touched it, and tried to scroll down to Delete. It did not work. Scrolled the entire message down. Again, I think I should do a restore, this beta seems to have made enough changes to probably warrant a full restore before feeling bad.
 
It’s not too difficult to replace Touch ID here with, say, facial recognition…

It will be when you need to use Facial Recognition to verify identity on an Apple Pay Reader (NFC reader). How are you going to line up the front camera to point at your face while tapping the phone flat onto a reader? At least 75% of the readers I've used for Apple Pay are mounted down to a counter in a configuration that won't allow me to point the camera at my face. That's going to be a big problem if they get rid of TouchID for Facial Recognition IMHO.
 
I am running as a daily driver on my IPP but haven't yet installed on my IP7+. Might take the leap with this beta since its seems to be running well on my ipad since beta 3.
 
There is for me. I think I will restore from an image to be sure.
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This is true, to some extent. In Springboard, this is true. The only problem is delay.

However, on lock screen, Outlook popped up an email. I 3D Touched it, and tried to scroll down to Delete. It did not work. Scrolled the entire message down. Again, I think I should do a restore, this beta seems to have made enough changes to probably warrant a full restore before feeling bad.

When you do a full restore do you restore from a backup or start your iPhone as new again?
 
It will be when you need to use Facial Recognition to verify identity on an Apple Pay Reader (NFC reader). How are you going to line up the front camera to point at your face while tapping the phone flat onto a reader? At least 75% of the readers I've used for Apple Pay are mounted down to a counter in a configuration that won't allow me to point the camera at my face. That's going to be a big problem if they get rid of TouchID for Facial Recognition IMHO.
Plus you're gonna look pretty weird in public doing that! I'm on the side that TouchID will not leave. I loath facial recognition...
 
Plus you're gonna look pretty weird in public doing that! I'm on the side that TouchID will not leave. I loath facial recognition...

Wholeheartedly agree with ^^^. If Apple wants to promote more use of Apple Pay, they cannot make it more difficult to use by authenticating with just facial recognition. If they did, and complaints started coming in, and they gave a "you're holding it wrong" type of response, it would be unacceptable.
 
It will be when you need to use Facial Recognition to verify identity on an Apple Pay Reader (NFC reader). How are you going to line up the front camera to point at your face while tapping the phone flat onto a reader? At least 75% of the readers I've used for Apple Pay are mounted down to a counter in a configuration that won't allow me to point the camera at my face. That's going to be a big problem if they get rid of TouchID for Facial Recognition IMHO.
This discussion is probably out of scope for this thread, but given the advances Apple has already demonstrated (e.g., the scanning capability of Notes) plus the rumored 3D imaging capabilities, assuming this is really the wave of future, I think Apple probably has thought through some of the tougher physical use cases.
 
It will be when you need to use Facial Recognition to verify identity on an Apple Pay Reader (NFC reader). How are you going to line up the front camera to point at your face while tapping the phone flat onto a reader? At least 75% of the readers I've used for Apple Pay are mounted down to a counter in a configuration that won't allow me to point the camera at my face. That's going to be a big problem if they get rid of TouchID for Facial Recognition IMHO.

But you don’t need to hold your finger on the touch id button, you just need it in an « unlocked » position and you can pay. Me, I wake up my phone with double tap, which brings it directly to my wallet, and then it’s ready to pay, I don’t have to leave my finger there. There is an invisible countdown that require identification again after a short while, but it’s long enough to be able to pay.
 
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I am running as a daily driver on my IPP but haven't yet installed on my IP7+. Might take the leap with this beta since its seems to be running well on my ipad since beta 3.
If I were you, and you've held off on updating your 7+ this long, I'd wait til tomorrow to see how things really are. 2 hours in is probably not enough time.
 
ugh, the volume HUD is still a big square smack in the middle of the screen blocking your video. It even pops up in instagram and youtube which have the small line at the top of the screen... C'mon Apple!
 
But you don’t need to hold your finger on the touch id button, you just need it in an « unlocked » position and you can pay. Me, I wake up my phone with double tap, which brings it directly to my wallet, and then it’s ready to pay, I don’t have to leave my finger there. There is an invisible countdown that require identification again after a short while, but it’s long enough to be able to pay.

Fair point. I usually don't authenticate until I've tapped it on the reader, as I wait for the NFC "touch" between the phone and the reader to prompt into the wallet. But I still think that would be a learning curve for a lot of people.
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This discussion is probably out of scope for this thread, but given the advances Apple has already demonstrated (e.g., the scanning capability of Notes) plus the rumored 3D imaging capabilities, assuming this is really the wave of future, I think Apple probably has thought through some of the tougher physical use cases.

Noted. Back to B4 conversation...! :)
 
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I would really appreciate if someone would respond to my post.

How is the stability?
Is battery draining quickly for some people? (Doesn't have to be totally answered but I'm sure you'd know if it was still draining fast.)
The heat of the phone? Super hot in the top right corner?

I hate that I ask simple questions yet I don't get a reply :(:D

I would appreciate it guys.
 
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After all these betas. My control screen still looks like this. Is there a way to fix this? Its been bothering me.
 
I would assume if you have a handoff app open, double clicking possibly reveals handoff on its own.

No, does not. I have a Safari window on my MBP open, and nothing happened on the iPhone. This what you said was the first thing I checked myself. :p
 
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