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I did not say or imply that people cannot complain. What I figure, however, is that if something is bothering you enough you would get rid of it instead of letting it make you miserable.

Also, how many of the complainants are filing bug reports?

I would say enough are reporting them. Hence why we are getting fixes for them. But yes if people continue to be angered by Apple, you would expect them to switch. That being said, the grass is not always greener and in this case (Android) it is not greener if you have a Mac, iPad, Apple Watch, etc. Apple still has great customer support and the fix to 11.0.1 came very quickly. Many of the new posters here are always negative and disappear a few weeks after major updates. I had been a long time lurker on this and other sites and can tell you, MR has a lot of negative posters, but the a lot of the regulars are some of the best troubleshooters you can find.
 
What are you talking about? I also haven't backed up my phone in nearly 2 years because the cloud is basically full.
If iOS 11 isn't working well for you and you've tried various troubleshooting methods and still don't like it you can still go to iOS 10 for now if you want.
 
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Wow, people are extremely emotional over a seemingly solid iOS update. This should be interesting.
I wouldn’t go as far as to say it’s a mess, but there’s certainly changes that to me seem illogical and inconvenient over 10 - primarily the control centre toggles no longer, uh, toggling. On iPad, on the whole I like the new multitasking features, but it is slightly more inconvenient that you now have to keep everything you might want to use in a crowded dock, or else close out the app you’re using, grab the new one from the home screen and re-open your previous app - before you could of course just pull a new one in from the side and I don’t see why they had to get rid of that as another convenient way of adding an app?
 
I would say enough are reporting them. Hence why we are getting fixes for them. But yes if people continue to be angered by Apple, you would expect them to switch. That being said, the grass is not always greener and in this case (Android) it is not greener if you have a Mac, iPad, Apple Watch, etc. Apple still has great customer support and the fix to 11.0.1 came very quickly. Many of the new posters here are always negative and disappear a few weeks after major updates. I had been a long time lurker on this and other sites and can tell you, MR has a lot of negative posters, but the a lot of the regulars are some of the best troubleshooters you can find.
I’ve been on the other side of that fence (Android tablet) and the grass is dead weeds. In my case, the solution was literally to throw the tablet away. I have no knowledge of the Android OS and there isn’t a utility like iTunes to plug the device into. And no “Android Store”.
 
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If you’re used to the fit and finish of the iOS 6 era, then iOS 7-11 is jarring.
 
If you’re used to the fit and finish of the iOS 6 era, then iOS 7-11 is jarring.
Interesting how many complaint threads about this or that exist in forums about iPhone OS and iOS versions prior to 7.
 
I would suggest those @ Mashable and Hackernoon write their own mobile operating system and compete with iOS if they feel they could do so much better...
It's the go-to fanboy answer to everything - "Well, if you think you could do better, write your own mobile OS!"

So cipher29 - anything YOU ever complain about, let's see you roll your own, ok? Car won't start and it's a piece of junk? Let's see you design your own car! Angry at the long lines at the DMV? Well, you're welcome to start your own government service! Didn't like that movie you dropped $15 + popcorn on? Well direct your own or shut up - who do you think you are, Francis Coppola?

I guess Apple can start cranking out crappy OS update after crappy OS update - after all, YOU can't possibly write an OS, can you? Shut up and be amazed, like Tim Cook says!
 
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I would suggest those @ Mashable and Hackernoon write their own mobile operating system and compete with iOS if they feel they could do so much better...
If I go to a hotel and I don't like the food, that implies I need to cook my own food and not criticise the restaurant where I paid money?
 
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If I go to a hotel and I don't like the food, that implies I need to cook my own food and not criticise the restaurant where I paid money?

Or you know, never eat there again and go eat somewhere else.

Why purchase an iPhone if all you’re going to do is endlessly complain for literally years on end about it? That’s just absurd.

Just like the restaurant scenario, any sensible person would move on and not continue to spend money on something they don’t like.

What goes on around MR is beyond just criticism. It’s outright childish behaviour.
 
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Still no fixed with the latest ios update ( I hope not just me experience these bugs, otherwise i’d be told to roll back to old ios version or switch to android )

1. Emoji keyboard is blocking some of the messages (whatsapp)

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2. Emoji keyboard is blocking the typing space - since I can’t see what I type on screen, so I have to use my imagination :) (facebook comment)

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3. My inner OCD is screaming (apple music on ipad air 1) - to fix this, i have to use landscape mode, then roll it to potrait mode again

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Or you know, never eat there again and go eat somewhere else.

Why purchase an iPhone if all you’re going to do is endlessly complain for literally years on end about it? That’s just absurd.

Just like the restaurant scenario, any sensible person would move on and not continue to spend money on something they don’t like.

What goes on around MR is beyond just criticism. It’s outright childish behaviour.
Because when the iPhones run well they are beasts. The iPhone 7 on iOS 10 was the smoothest phone I had ever owned. You know, I feel like buying a Google Pixel to complement my iPhone just to see who does updates best. Do the Pixels also slow down with stutters and lags on subsequent Androids? Even so, I can downgrade any time on Android so thats a bonus. But iPhones will still perform the best on the version they ship and better than any Android imo. Once they get updated its a different story.
 
Because when the iPhones run well they are beasts. The iPhone 7 on iOS 10 was the smoothest phone I had ever owned. You know, I feel like buying a Google Pixel to complement my iPhone just to see who does updates best. Do the Pixels also slow down with stutters and lags on subsequent Androids? Even so, I can downgrade any time on Android so thats a bonus. But iPhones will still perform the best on the version they ship and better than any Android imo. Once they get updated its a different story.

Still doesn’t explain why the endless over many years of complaining. One moment you’re bashing everything about it, the next you’re saying how great it is. Which is it?

Also, whatever happened to ditching iPhone all together because the iPhone X (called 8 at the time of rumours) was rumoured to be (and now is) $1000? https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-storage-options.2033734/page-9#post-24331578

You’ve even posted about putting ALL your Apple product into craigslist if the new phone was going to be $1000. https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-move-to-iphone.1800777/page-21#post-24286667

Or how about trashing all your Apple products and going Android and Windows? https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...pwards-of-1-000.2031744/page-18#post-24286861

Have you thrown it all in the trash yet? Or sold it all on Craigslist yet? Have to swapped over to an s8 or Note 8? Ordered your Pixel XL 2?

I suppose it’s just simpler to moan and whine about it on a daily basis. Keep going back to that restaurant where the food was gross (as per your restaurant scenario earlier)
 
Also, whatever happened to ditching iPhone all together because the iPhone X (called 8 at the time of rumours) was rumoured to be (and now is) $1000? https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-storage-options.2033734/page-9#post-24331578
Every phone after then launched at $1000. The Note is $1000. The Pixel is $950. The iPhone X is $1200. You dont really have much of a choice now do you?. The Note is enticing because it has some freebies thrown in but the outflow is the same. Even after the Android phones came out it takes time to psychologically adjust to the new prcicing structures

You’ve even posted about putting ALL your Apple product into craigslist if the new phone was going to be $1000. https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-move-to-iphone.1800777/page-21#post-24286667
Again prior to the launch of next gen Android phones. $1000 is the standard now and if you want a flagship, get it or get a third rate phone below that.

Read above. You dont get anything but mid range products at $700 now. I simply adapted to the situation. I swore I would never buy a GTX 1080ti at $700, then AMD came along with a RX Vega at $650 and I bought the ti in the end. So there is no choice again. The consumer is at the mercy of these big corpoations in the end

Have you thrown it all in the trash yet? Or sold it all on Craigslist yet? Have to swapped over to an s8 or Note 8? Ordered your Pixel XL 2?
If I get any ANdroid, I will still be keeping my iPhones
 
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Is there a way to disable the App Store in iMessage?

Not just on message, the app store button next to camera also appears on my iPhone 6S i dont need that sh*t i was like eh??! Whats the purpose of that thing??? That is why iOS 11 looks so android like!!! It gotten slower as well as someon so unattractive design
 
No mess here works just fine. Don’t like it move to something else. Plus post lost all credibility with the mention of Steve Jobs.
 
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