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iOS 11 keeps turning WiFi on automatically
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I’ve done that before myself and it still turns itself back on and it’s really annoying
LOL yes the only possibly reason could be yet another Apple conspiracy to drain your battery intentionally. I meansome of you REALLY need to be on some meds around here Im convinced.
This has been discussed to death already. It is an intentional "feature" of iOS11. Remember, MR people are the 1% of 1% of Apple educated people. Most people do no physically turn off wifi when leaving the house or office but leave it on and it reconnects when they get to the office or get home. Even I dont as I want to be on wifi at home or work not cellular data as wifi is much faster for me.
The average soccer mom wants to be able to disconnect from wifi and it magically reconnects when they get somewhere else with wifi and a known network to not suck their data plan. That seamlessness is what Apple is. Wifi being on uses a negligible amount of battery life if not connected.
All you have to do is 1 extra click into settings and tick the wifi off button and it wont come back on. Or if you forget the saved network it will not trigger the connection back on. It ONLY connects to previously networks you connected to, and you can easily tick forget that network. There is no security flaw but a user flaw.
I think we’re missing the point here.
The point is in a standard UI. A toggle on or off means precisely that. If it will mean something else it should be made clear. And it’s not. Why is it not made clear?
Well how do you say it in a nice way:
Let me put it comically to defuse some anger although Anger is understandable if your ability to control your own phone was hijacked by the company you trusted.
“hey users were apple here (or UI) so listen don’t talk, we decided what’s best for you and we’re stripping you from the ability to control your devices, do you want to switch off your Wifi:/ no you don’t need to, we know please don’t interrupt. We’ll make it look like you did control it so even if you did, click this or that, it dunt matter, we’ll switch it on for you at 5 am, why 5 am. You’re probably be sleeping and won’t know what hit you lol. thank us later. Bye suckers hahahaha”
This certainly impacts user TRUST with the design ->product and ultimately ->company.
So now the question that begs itself is. What else do we think were switching on/off that is switching itself on at 5am.
And can we really, really know that it actually is!
The toggles are not new by any means. They were on iphone 3G with jail broken phones, and funny enough they did what they were meant to do. It took apple years to catch up and got it wrong. Oops now apple doesn’t even realize they’re ruffling feathers of their own flock. Yikes!
We know we can go to settings and switch it off. But we’re not working with an obscure phone that costs $50. This is iphone or iPad and is expected work with minimum effort, and expected to do the most obvious thing.
All the excuses are worth a $1 coffee, at dunkin, and Are frankly lame. Users should have full control of elements that are in the control center. I’m surprised people are not infuriated by this.
I mean even basic devices from other companies would not go there.
This without a doubt hurts the brand and the trust users had for iPhone as a secure device is now not intact. (First step that could lead to divorce)
The silver lining is that if apple UI smarties keep on deciding badly for users we will eventually look for better choices else where.
Apple is not the only company that saw the light because of the leadership of one person and will jot be the last.
Now who will take advantage of this sudden demise of the apple products and capture the market. Making users satisfied again. We’ll just have to wait and see.
With respect to all
I'm having a similar issue in that if I disconnect from a certain wi-fi network in the control panel, my phone will automatically connect to the same wi-fi network once it shows the lock screen. I can set the phone down disconnected to a wi-fi network, walk away, and come back 5 minutes later and be connected to the same network again.
Airplane mode is also forcing to wi-fi. The only way I can disconnect from a wi-fi network OR turn off wi-fi is via Settings>Wi-Fi.
Airplane mode is also forcing to wi-fi. The only way I can disconnect from a wi-fi network OR turn off wi-fi is via Settings>Wi-Fi.
So after the last iOS update, it renewed the auto connect to carrier's free wifi again (AT&T)
Parked at a Gas station waiting to meet someone, right next to a mcdonalds... which has partnered with AT&T... Noticed i'm connected to a wifi network, check and it's "attwifi" iOS keeps adding that network (or AT&T since i saw a "carrier settings update" recently as well) back to my previously connected networks after I have already removed it from any trusted networks. ANNOYING that it keeps adding it back in.
(And dont say it's no big deal, see my previous post on how carrier networks can get spoofed easily and trick phones into auto connecting to the wrong network)
Parked at a Gas station waiting to meet someone, right next to a mcdonalds... which has partnered with AT&T... Noticed i'm connected to a wifi network, check and it's "attwifi" iOS keeps adding that network (or AT&T since i saw a "carrier settings update" recently as well) back to my previously connected networks after I have already removed it from any trusted networks. ANNOYING that it keeps adding it back in.
(And dont say it's no big deal, see my previous post on how carrier networks can get spoofed easily and trick phones into auto connecting to the wrong network)
Well that is EXACTLY WHY we are complaining...............
instead of using the OLD quick and easy method of just swipe up and turn wifi OFF.... Apple makes us back out of whatever we are doing, go to settings, then wifi, then turn off, then go back to what we were doing. Can no longer turn wifi off easily, from lockscreen, from homescreen, within any app no matter what you are doing...
Thats why this (and other) thread exists.
Except they didn't strip away anything, they ADDED another option to the existing one. You STILL have the ability to turn off BT and WI-FI if you so chose over simply disconnecting them.
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Adding an option would have been better, they did not.
adding the option to press to temp disable wifi, and the option via force touch to disable wifi completely... would have been the better way.
What they did is CHANGE the control centers button functionality. they added NOTHING to the existing button.
same here and that includes home, pretty annoying for such a lame battery...
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Exactly, what is the poing of adding that wifi button on the control center in the first place if its gonna turn on whenever the ios wants to.
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Exactly, what is the poing of adding that wifi button on the control center in the first place if its gonna turn on whenever the ios wants to.
I meant they added a feature to iOS. Previously you could ONLY turn it off and on. Now you can disconnect as well as totally turning off/on. Should they give users the option to change the CC functions? Probably since CC is now "customizable" but they certainly didn't take away a feature, they added a new one. Personally I never turn off wifi and BT as there is no point in it, but I have disconnected WIFI when its a lousy connection and LTE is better. But I have no issue 3D touching settings app and turning off either if I felt the need to. Actually just as simple as CC.
Read the article I posted earlier. SUPER easy to spoof carrier wifi etc. which means super easy to get your login credentials for multiple things... and it's been proven time and time again, people are creatures of habit. that 1 password used for 1000000000000000 websites.
Apple should add the option on the control center, all complaints would cease.
To be fair, I'd be more upset about having some WiFi connection that is essentially "hard-coded" (from my carrier or elsewhere) and I can't get rid of basically. Doesn't matter how quickly I can disconnect or turn off WiFi as I really shouldn't need to do that at all to avoid connecting to a WiFi network that I don't want to connect to to begin with.
Sounds like perhaps ATT needs to change their methods to me. Turn off the auto join and auto login at the very least. But bottom line, Apple has not taken away the ability to turn off WIFI and BT and going into settings app isn't the end of the world. How did you manage it before control center was added? Or are you a fairly new Apple user? CC hasn't been around that long and you always had to go to settings to do those things prior to cc being added. Now we have 3D touch option as well. But I agree Apple should add the option to be able change CC for those who like the new option and for those who do not. Just saying its not as big a deal as some are making it out to be.
For one, it's ALL carrier and cable providers that have been able to be spoofed. Xfinity/AT&T/etc it's NOT THIER passwords, they can be spoofed, thus the problem. read the article. There really is no security on them.. iOS is automatically configured to connect to ANY wifi labeled "attwifi" (At least AT&T iOS devices, same for Verizon/Sprint/etc) a legit attwifi hotspot and a fake spoofed attwifi down the road just out of range.... your iPhone loses connection to the real attwifi, and connects to the fake attwifi. ZERO security check, it just looks for the name.
Xfinity needs a login/password, so they recreate the webpage that just logs your login creds when you connect. It allows you on like any xfinity wifi would... except you are going through a hackers wifi and he logged your login which he uses later to get in your account. But you got on that "free" wifi, so all good? Right? Unless yoou know for a FACT you are connecting to a legit "free" wifi... dont use them. Risk outweighs reward. But people dont listen. "that won't happen to me"
2nd. It's called JAILBREAK. CC in other forms has been on a Jailbroken iPhone forever... Apple finally copied it and added it to iOS. And yes, I jailbroke my iPhone 3 the day I bought it. and continued to be Jailbroken all the way into iOS 7 I think. 8 may have been the first time I didnt jailbreak, Apple finally added the things that should have been there all along. Remember when Apple made it a HUGE deal to have Copy/Paste? one of the first things added to a jailbreak was the stupidly ignored copy/paste ability. (Apple fanboi's agreed we shouldn't have copy/paste until Apple allowed us to have it... didnt fit with the UI or some such BS, they defended Apple all the way up to the point Apple added it.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_Center_(iOS) Read here, SBSettings was what Apple copied (loosely)
http://moreinfo.thebigboss.org/moreinfo/SBSettings.php OLD screenshots here.
No iPhone that I've had on Verizon has ever had some hard-coded wireless network or anything like that. The underlying problem seems to lie with wireless networks of that type and not really with the ability to turn off WiFi with two actions instead of three or something else of that nature.
talking two different things here.
Im beginning to think it's the "carrier settings updates" (from AT&T) that put the attwifi back in the known networks. Check your known networks on your verizon phone and see if there is a verizon wifi listed.
The article I keep referring to, works with ANY wifi that the SSID is known... AT&T/VerizonWiFi/Xfinity/you name it. If it's on your "known" list... like attwifi/VerizonWiFi/Xfinity and your iOS device sees that SSID.... it connects. regardless if it's legit or fake.
The problem here is that Apple used to allow us to turn off WiFi from CC easily.. and now they want us to temp disable wifi instead, unless we actually unlock the iphone, back out of whatever app is open, go to settings, wifi, turn off, THEN resume what you were doing. it's not 2-3 steps most times.
Just enable us to force touch the wifi icon in CC and choose between temp or perm disable and all would be fine.
Quick search, Verizon and Sprint both have disabled the ability to turn wifi completely off on android before... unless you root and do it yourself. Different, but similar issue. So yes.. Verizon has done that before. And it seems they want to do it to conserve data usage over cellular.
https://androidforums.com/threads/known-wifi-network-available-connect.580491/
Pat500000: Are you using CC to turn WiFi off? and it stays off completely until you turn it back on hours later?
Yes. I turned off wifi with cc from 1 site to another site with wifi...and it's off. I'm using att/ ipx
Edit: I thought it was resolved....but I don't know what to say...