Seems like it's not in developer beta 4, but it is in public beta 4 (at last for the most part, based on the feedback from various people).
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iOS 11.x.x Release Speculation Thread
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Not sure? When we updated all our devices here, it was gone on all four.
[doublepost=1508539149][/doublepost]Okay, take that back about the feedback app.
The 2 devices I updated with IPSW via iTunes, the feedback app was removed.
The 2 done OTA, the feedback app is there!
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Lol. You should be a Magic 8 ball for Halloween!
If it’s the final beta, as madscotsman says, does that mean it will be the official 11.1 unless something unexpected happens?
Could be, or could be that there's an actual GM that's a little newer even that might come out as the public final.
Where does this leave the 11.1 that’s already loaded onto the iPhone X?
Makes me think that must be quite different from what is being worked on now for the remaining devices..
That or 11.1 was highly developed for the X months ago, and the development for the rest is only happening now
Makes me think that must be quite different from what is being worked on now for the remaining devices..
That or 11.1 was highly developed for the X months ago, and the development for the rest is only happening now
I think that we all tend to think linearly. And I don’t think that’s necessarily how Apple develops this software. They may have known what 11.1 was going to be some time ago but push these betas outside their organization to see what goes on with certain hardware/software combinations, as well as to debug as an aid to future development.
Yeah I should have merged my last two sentences, they’re pointing at the same thing, as are you.
It would be interesting to know how they approached it
There was conjecture on one of the threads that Apple has a patent for loading software on their devices after production (in the box?)
It's quite possible that iPhones don't actually power down but go into a standby state (min power draw, waiting for a wake signal over bluetooth) - if that's the case, they could, in theory, update thousands of phones that are already shipped to their distribution centres.
Me, I think it's easier to just have "There's an update available" on initial setup, but I guess we'll see which it is.
It's quite possible that iPhones don't actually power down but go into a standby state (min power draw, waiting for a wake signal over bluetooth) - if that's the case, they could, in theory, update thousands of phones that are already shipped to their distribution centres.
Me, I think it's easier to just have "There's an update available" on initial setup, but I guess we'll see which it is.
I don´t think so. They replaced my AW. Was it updated? No. They replaced once my iPhone 6. Updated? No. So, if they planned it, it ships with 11.1 otherwise... It is nothing new, that a device goes on sale and the customer has to update it.There was conjecture on one of the threads that Apple has a patent for loading software on their devices after production (in the box?)
It's quite possible that iPhones don't actually power down but go into a standby state (min power draw, waiting for a wake signal over bluetooth) - if that's the case, they could, in theory, update thousands of phones that are already shipped to their distribution centres.
Me, I think it's easier to just have "There's an update available" on initial setup, but I guess we'll see which it is.
Things are a little different at launch than getting a warranty replacement. You need that version of software on the new device so all of the features are available. Likely it'll still do an update on launch (ie has 11.0.x loaded on it), but it wouldn't be all that difficult for Apple to do software loads on boxed phones as part of a launch.
If you say so... Let´s wait and see.
Nothing next week, really? What about the WPA2 flaw? They released a beta on Friday. I think, they want to get the Final out quick.
No-one knows when they'll release the .1 update...until they do. Why people ask on here?? Anyone that's internal that would answer the question could lose their job if they did.
Oh, and @Hans300....right....because normally software teams are trying to produce software releases with more bugs. That's actually the goal, it's a make-work project. /s
Oh, and @Hans300....right....because normally software teams are trying to produce software releases with more bugs. That's actually the goal, it's a make-work project. /s
People can make educated guesses.
We're presuming this is the GM candidate...but we'll see.No-one that isn't internal would know (unless they have a leaky internal friend)
Edit: And often, even the "leaky internal friends" can be wrong....unless they're actually participating in the software release meetings, they may not know for certain.
The latter.People can make educated guesses.
No-one that isn't internal would know (unless they have a leaky internal friend)
That sounds made up.
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I'm guessing that you haven't been following @Madscotsman.
Sure, nothing can be known for certain until it actually happens. That's neither here nor there. And while there are educated guesses and all that, there are things beyond that, and the record for those things (as has been established in this thread, and other places) can speak for itself.People can make educated guesses.
No-one that isn't internal would know (unless they have a leaky internal friend)
Edit: And often, even the "leaky internal friends" can be wrong....unless they're actually participating in the software release meetings, they may not know for certain.
Heh...ok. Caught up. Hopefully there's enough "degrees of separation" between the source and his friend that's in the infinite loop.
Final beta usually means GM, does it not? (you'd think they'd want a good couple of weeks of soak time for the X launch)
Plus, then they could release it to manufacturing now...so the last 800,000 devices have it on.
Final beta usually means GM, does it not? (you'd think they'd want a good couple of weeks of soak time for the X launch)
Plus, then they could release it to manufacturing now...so the last 800,000 devices have it on.
No. Final beta does not mean GM. GM is another build after the final beta. And typically only X.0 builds have GMs.Heh...ok. Caught up. Hopefully there's enough "degrees of separation" between the source and his friend that's in the infinite loop.
Final beta usually means GM, does it not? (you'd think they'd want a good couple of weeks of soak time for the X launch)
Plus, then they could release it to manufacturing now...so the last 800,000 devices have it on.
Madscotsman has yet to be wrong. He is 14/14+.
Ok, then that still means this is likely (barring anything significant being found) the build that will be released to the public when the X launches.
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