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That's not late June. That's middle June.

The "late" of a month for Apple is always the final week. The 20th is not "late".

Additionally PB is not coming out the next day. It will be a minimum of 2 days.

You may be correct, but you really set yourself up if not!
 
Are you still harping on the amount of betas before iOS 11?
For like the 100th time now :)p) I said "could be". Not will be. Could be. This I am making a claim, that was a guess.
I thought we were on the same page that it was a funny joke we both shared. Dunno why you get so uptight about it.
 
I'm 80% certain the beta will be next week. Apple's "late" whatever is usually the last week. Hell, even if I tell someone they could expect something from me, "mid June" would be the last week.

That said, I could see the dev beta tomorrow, and the PB late this week and being "late June."
 
Possibility 1:
Apple releases Beta 2 this week , PB1 which will probably be the same build will be released this week .

Possibility 2:
Apple won't release beta 2 this week . It will be released in the last week of June.
And PB1 will be released too.

Possibility 3:
Apple will release beta 2 this week . No PB . Beta 3 will be PB1 . No PB for beta 2.
 
Possibility 1:
Apple releases Beta 2 this week , PB1 which will probably be the same build will be released this week .

Possibility 2:
Apple won't release beta 2 this week . It will be released in the last week of June.
And PB1 will be released too.

Possibility 3:
Apple will release beta 2 this week . No PB . Beta 3 will be PB1 . No PB for beta 2.
That third possibility means beta 2 will only be a week. Which hasn't ever happened before in the history of X.0 betas.
 
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Possibility 4:

Beta 2 tomorrow, PB2 next week (same build as beta 2)
Not very likely . Apple will release PB and Beta in the same week . It's a possibility,although , I think that is a very slightly chance that it will happen .
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Possibility 5:

PB is pushed into July, as much as I hope it won't be...
100% unlikely. Apple said late June , NOT early July .
 
This is my prediction. It's based off of last year, but it makes sense and I'm pretty confident in it.

iOS 10.3.3 Public Release - June 19th
iOS 11 Developer Beta 2 - June 26th
iOS 11 Public Beta 1 - June 27th or 28th


WWDC this year was a week earlier than it was last year, so the "Late June" release gives me the impression that they are following the same pattern as last year (At least for these betas), and just shifting it forward by a week, making everything a week earlier.
 
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Agree, but iOS 9.3.3 was released on July 18, so I think iOS 10.3.3 will be on July too.
 
iOS 8: beta 1 was released on June 4, 2014, beta 2 on June 17, 2014

iOS 9: beta 1 was released on June 9, 2015, beta 2 on June 23, 2015

iOS 10: beta 1 was released on June 14, 2016, beta 2 on July 5, 2016
Considering this track record Apple takes 15-25 days to release next beta before PB
 
i hope yes because beta 1 is pretty terrible

all Beta 1 releases are kind of awful and break things...which is, you know, the point of it all.

that being said - this has been the least terrible Beta 1 since I've been testing for a few years. I've had very few crashes and incompatibilities.
 
all Beta 1 releases are kind of awful and break things...which is, you know, the point of it all.

that being said - this has been the least terrible Beta 1 since I've been testing for a few years. I've had very few crashes and incompatibilities.

It was expected to have issues so I have no problem dealing with it, but my beta 1 has seemingly gotten worse as the days progressed. I am seeing certain issues today that I wasn't seeing day 1, which is new for me. Either way, happy with iOS 11, just hoping a new beta drops today.
 
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