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sunny2k1

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After the keynote usually Apple release GM, am I wrong? So, the GM is like a Beta 10?
Yes, the GM is usually shipped after the keynote.


No, the GM is the same version as the version on the new products. This should normally be the same version as the first public release. Last year we had the unique situation, that the new devices came with iOS 10 (GM build) and needed to be updated to iOS 10.0.1. this might happen this year again.
 

dadiduekappa

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Yes, the GM is usually shipped after the keynote.


No, the GM is the same version as the version on the new products. This should normally be the same version as the first public release. Last year we had the unique situation, that the new devices came with iOS 10 (GM build) and needed to be updated to iOS 10.0.1. this might happen this year again.

Ok, but still different (maybe better) from the beta 9, right?
 

sbailey4

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Technically the iOS 11 GM has been frozen a couple of weeks ago. The last Betas has already been for further releases (iOS 11.0.2, iOS 11.03)
So technically worse then. Any of the fixes from the last few betas will not be in the GM according to this statement correct?
 

jonnyb098

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Idk but I can tell you iOS 11 is no where near ready. Both on iPad 10.5 and iPhone 7 Plus, it’s very jittery and lots of bugs. I remember most past iOS releases at this point were much more stable.
Can you provide some examples on iPad Pro 10.5?? From what I've read it's the most stable of all the iPads. I tried iOS 11 on a friends Air 2 and while useable it was definitely a bit choppy in the animations. I hope this isn't the case on the new Pro since right now it's insanely fast and fluid on iOS 10.
 

jsmith189

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Idk but I can tell you iOS 11 is no where near ready.

We repeat again: beta builds aren't necessarily a reflection of the absolute progress they've made so far. A beta being unstable doesn't mean that they don't have a much more stable master that they're building and running in the background while we, the plebs, use and figure out issues on the purposely buggy versions.

If, once we get GM, you have the same issues then yes, it's "no where near ready".
 

AZhappyjack

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I'm guessing that we're done. The event is next Tuesday (10/12)... the GM will be released later that day... so, outside of an unlikely release tomorrow, no more iOS 11 beta releases.
 
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jonnyb098

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Realistically the GM is done and being loaded on the new phones as we speak.....so now begins the waiting process since the GM always contains a few new goodies shown off on stage.
 

dan9700

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I really think the next beta will be a GM next week on the keynote but would love to be wrong this is getting exciting now
 

redbeard331

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Beta 9 is crap on my phone, lots of freezes, stuttering, and sleep/wake issues where the phone will not react at all when trying to wake it. Not much time to get it right.
 

Aceroller

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If I delete the Beta profile from my phone, will I then just receive the GM like everyone else, and then not receive any future Beta OTA's? Thanks.
 

AZhappyjack

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If I delete the Beta profile from my phone, will I then just receive the GM like everyone else, and then not receive any future Beta OTA's? Thanks.

I believe that you will need the Dev profile to get the GM release... otherwise, you won't see it until the official release date (which Apple will announce at the announcement event). Not sure if the Public beta users get the GM (this is the first year that I haven't had a dev account/dev profile at iOS release time.
 
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