When I had PB4 my watch worked and I have 4.3.2 as it’s the old series 0.
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All Devices iOS 13 Beta 6 ― Bug Fixes, Changes, and Improvements
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Just curious, if anyone could help me out with this quick question.
The first post (wiki) in this thread lists the carrier version for an iPhone X as 36.5.34, however, on my backup iPhone X the carrier version is at 37.0.
Just wondering why the difference?
Edit: Also on my iPad Pro 9.7" and my other backup iPhone 7 Plus, the carrier version is at 37.0.
*All devices are AT&T.
The first post (wiki) in this thread lists the carrier version for an iPhone X as 36.5.34, however, on my backup iPhone X the carrier version is at 37.0.
Just wondering why the difference?
Edit: Also on my iPad Pro 9.7" and my other backup iPhone 7 Plus, the carrier version is at 37.0.
*All devices are AT&T.
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Honestly the most surprising thing to me here are all the users who stick to the default Apple Mail app. It’s crap and mostly featureless, lol. So many better options out there that aren’t buggy as all get out. Why do people stick with the stock apps when
Why do developers have to introduce this functionality to their apps at all, though? That’s what I don’t understand? For instance if you download Swype, or Fleksy, or any third-party keyboard from the App Store, *those* themed keyboards are universal and iOS-wide. If I select a pink keyboard in Fleksy, no matter what app I’m using the keyboard will appear pink, no developers had to agree to allow Fleksy permission to theme inside of their apps, it just *is* because I’ve added Fleksy as a keyboard. It just seems nonsensical to allow dark mode and then not force the black design out across all apps regardless. It totally ruins the user experience of selecting dark mode IMO.
Apple's Mail app has been pretty good for many for many years. It's been kind of buggy in the iOS 13 betas though--hard to say why, but maybe they are redoing the Mail backend in iOS 13 and that might be contributing to it all.
As far as dark mode goes, perhaps things might not look all that well in various apps if dark mode is enabled in them, so that's potentially why they are leaving to developers to decide to make use of it.
Most of these versions are copied from the previous beta. You can edit the Wiki and update it. I've updated the Wiki for iPXS and put (b6) next to it to make it clear.Just curious, if anyone could help me out with this quick question.
The first post (wiki) in this thread lists the carrier version for an iPhone X as 36.5.34, however, on my backup iPhone X the carrier version is at 37.0.
Just wondering why the difference?
Edit: Also on my iPad Pro 9.7" and my other backup iPhone 7 Plus, the carrier version is at 37.0.
My iPhone XS is displaying what appears to be (according to this wiki) the correct carrier version, 36.5.34
*All devices are AT&T.
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This is my guess. Since there's not really any major changes that I can see causing this many bugs, I would guess that they are refactoring the code and that's causing all these bugs.
That doesn’t make any sense though. Have you seen some of the themes allowed in Fleksy? Neon green, pink, sky blue, gradients, and once you add that keyboard onto iOS it goes to every all regardless. It’s never *not* that keyboard you’ve chosen, regardless of what the developer wanted.
And really I don’t see how the keyboard changes the experience of a developer’s app or user interface. It’s more psychologically tied to the phone iOS in itself than it is any app experience. All it does IMO is distract from the user experience by some apps calling up a dark keyboard, then loading for instance a browser that isn’t Safari and it’s right back to white all the time. What a clunky way to handle things...
Okay, I was curious why my carrier versions were not matching up even though I am on developer beta 6.
I went on and updated the AT&T (iPhone) carrier version, and put b6 next to it, like you suggested. I also added an AT&T (iPad) carrier version, like there is for Verizon, even though both AT&T, iPhone and iPad carrier versions are the same right now.
Thank you very much for your help! Kind of a "Duh!" moment for me, haha.
The thing is is that those aren’t the same things. Something like the keyboard is an OS-level feature that is then used throughout the OS and in apps without changing the apps themselves.
Since updating to DB 6 yesterday, there has been a hollow white arrow at the top of the screen all the time, it wont go away even after a restart and its draining the battery.
Checked the location services and none of the apps been accessing my location!
Anyone else having this issue?
Checked the location services and none of the apps been accessing my location!
Anyone else having this issue?
That's because when the Fleksy keyboard is enabled, Apple is allowing a small container on screen in which the Fleksy app can present its own user interface for a keyboard. It has nothing to do with the app that requested a keyboard — whether that’s the system keyboard or a third-party one — to be presented. Third-party keyboards themselves should, at least in theory, also be able to support Dark Mode in their own ways along with other apps next month.
Even before iOS 13, it's up to developers to request the preferred system keyboard theme for their apps' design. For example, Twitter with its own in-app Dark Mode may request the dark system keyboard when that Dark Mode is enabled and the light keyboard otherwise.
As for why they can't enable Dark Mode in all apps automatically, in general most apps will have at least one element—and probably more than one—which requires developer effort to look acceptable in Dark Mode, and some changes were made to support Dark Mode across the system that some developers will need to account for. For example, a background is no longer drawn behind a navigation bar when a large title is shown, and this may impact some apps that positioned content above the "top" of a scrollable view. And at last check, apps that explicitly request a navigation bar not be translucent would always have a black background behind the navigation bar.
It’s seriously best to wait while we update our apps and test them with new features like Dark Mode.
That I do not know. I don’t even have an Apple Watch. I got that info from another forum poster. Also, I believe the battery drain was only for the Series 4. Not sure what you have.
Some, like me, have to for work purposes and having an MDM. Now I’ve been having plenty of issues specific to attachments with the account that’s MDM’ed which I expect as the accompanying app hasn’t yet been updated in iOS 13, but now I’m also getting garbage out of my iCloud account.
Lots of reasons besides MDM pointed out.
Security- no 3rd party server doing who knows what with your data. Sure Gmail app for a gmail account or Outlook for an Outlook/Exchange mail account, but most people have more than 1 type; and then what are they doing with your data? Only Apple's app can connect directly to the mail services. Yes I get email is not encrypted etc etc, but it doesnt mean you should open the door up either IMO.
Apple's Mail app wont disappear tomorrow like some apps have making you change your whole workflow when features of other apps dont compare.
Apple's Mail app wont start costing $50/year like Cloudmagic/Newton and Airmail forcing you to change your workflow.
Apple's Mail app is integrated into iOS at the system level and Apple is very unlikely to let you set default 3rd party apps in the near future.
The main free options left:
- I tinker with/beta test Outlook and its a good app and I doubt going anywhere (but missing a ton of basic stuff still like email formatting, draft syncing with the server, HTML signatures unless you use HTML code,cant search your calendar for some reason that makes no sense, etc). I think its still the best overall app though and just works. I hate hate hate that you cannot minimize an email to look back at something else like the Stock app or Spark; and have to dig back into the drafts folder to go back to it.
- The GMail app is meh at best and I dont use Drive (use Onedrive) and Google still doesnt let you use the Files app or even another cloud service to attach to emails, so that's instantly crossed off the list.
- Spark is pretty decent (and beta for them too) and the most features of any free client, but I question how long it will remain free as they just moved PDFExpert to $50/year FOR A PDF EDITOR APP (ridiculous) not even using server resources; so I highly question how long Spark will remain a free service honestly. It's also a bit too "cartoony" feeling for me aesthetically.
- Edison is just meh to me too (used to beta for them but got disinterested in the app and slow progress in features). It has some basic stuff like the assistant that I wouldn't use, but I hate hate hate the threading method they use (totally unlikes Gmail where one email is on top/below the other and you can expand/contract for context) and cant use it. And the whole caught with their hand in the cookie jar employees reading your email without any notification to the user, whether they fixed that or not and let you opt out now, turned me off to their company. Fool me once.
There is no perfect client IMO.
All of the toys are fun in 3rd party apps. But I can count the number of times on 1 hand that I have personally used Send Later or Snooze (a bad habit to get into anyway as I run an inbox zero method) in the real world outside of testing it out. And in iOS13 you can create a Reminder from email now (without Siri, the remind me of this rarely worked right in iOS12) with a link right back to that email no matter what folder you put it in, so that is basically the exact same thing snoozing.
Im sure some have a use for it but I dont, even running 3 businesses. If a customer/client emails at 8pm they get a reply then or the email typically. Im my line of business getting customers is all about clients getting answers then and there before they go elsewhere. I dont care if it looks like I only answer from 9-5 with send later, and actually looks better on me replying right away to clients from comments I get. If Im going to write the email then Im going to hit send it then, not set it to send at 9am.
If I need a read receipt for proof of something important being sent to prove the client got it, there are free services you just BCC to them and they track the read receipt for you on their site. They work far better than any in-app implementation I've used too. Sure you only get a few per month for free but for how rarely I use them it works fine.
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Do you have the Nest App? They have had a few app updates that make locations services get “stuck”.
I’m the same way. I use Gmail app and Outlook app. They are much more functional. I’ve never used the stock email app. I’ve seen it used, and it’s not for me.
I have Series 4 yes, that why I am afraid.
Can anyone confirms if new beta is better regarding this issue?
Like many others, I’ve had all kinds of issues with Mail on the IOS 13 beta. I read somewhere that deleting the stock mail application would help. Figured it wouldn’t hurt so here’s what I did.
1. Delete stock Mail application
2. Remove all email accounts from Passwords and Accounts
3. Sign out of iCloud
4. Restart iPhone
5. Sign back into iCloud
6. Reinstall stock Mail application
7. Add all email accounts back.
After doing the above, ALL of my Mail issues are gone, and Mail is working perfectly... At least for now...
1. Delete stock Mail application
2. Remove all email accounts from Passwords and Accounts
3. Sign out of iCloud
4. Restart iPhone
5. Sign back into iCloud
6. Reinstall stock Mail application
7. Add all email accounts back.
After doing the above, ALL of my Mail issues are gone, and Mail is working perfectly... At least for now...