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All Devices iOS 13 Beta 8 ― Bug Fixes, Changes, and Improvements

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Is anyone having the issue of always having the outline of the arrow (location arrow) on the top left by the clock (iPhone XS Max) there? It won't go away and it's been there like all the time since updating to beta 6 or 7.
 
jarman92 said:
That's kind of up in the air (pun intended)...the site says only Gen 2 but someone at Apple told iMore than Gen 1 would be supported as well.
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They’re not going to mark this”Open” if it’s not going to happen at all
 
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gwhizkids said:
Really? I didn't realize I could do split screen on my Phone. Just because they have the same build does not make them the same thing. Clearly there are features in the iPad that are not available on the iPhone. They had to start somewhere.
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So iOS 9–12 weren’t iOS on the iPad either? They had features for iPad that weren’t available on iPhone, too. Are iPhone X and later also not running iOS because they include different features that replace the Home button’s former functionality? Where’s the line?

The way they’re doing iOS and “iPadOS” now is no different at all than what they were doing before, except the marketing name. In fact, if you call UIDevice.current.systemName on “iPadOS,” as of beta 8 it continues to report itself as “iOS.” Maybe it’s because, at least as of now, it’s still iOS.
 
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cflasche said:
Is anyone having the issue of always having the outline of the arrow (location arrow) on the top left by the clock (iPhone XS Max) there? It won't go away and it's been there like all the time since updating to beta 6 or 7.
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I get that when I have Location-Based Alerts turned on. The hollow arrow means something's using geofencing. In my case, it's a location-based reminder.
 
jonblatho said:
So iOS 9–12 weren’t iOS on the iPad either? They had features for iPad that weren’t available on iPhone, too. Are iPhone X and later also not running iOS because they include different features that replace the Home button’s former functionality? Where’s the line?

The way they’re doing iOS and “iPadOS” now is no different at all than what they were doing before, except the marketing name. In fact, if you call UIDevice.current.systemName on “iPadOS,” as of beta 8 it continues to report itself as “iOS.” Maybe it’s because, at least as of now, it’s still iOS.
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In a sense, that is correct. They merely branded it under the broader nomenclature as 'iOS". Now that they realize there is value in distinguishing the distinct features, they have elected to re-brand it. I guarantee you that the branching will become more pronounced as we move forward. As I said in my earlier post, they had to start somewhere.
 
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gwhizkids said:
In a sense, that is correct. They merely branded it under the broader nomenclature as 'iOS". Now that they realize there is value in distinguishing the distinct features, they have elected to re-brand it. I guarantee you that the branching will become more pronounced as we move forward. As I said in my earlier post, they had to start somewhere.
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As of now, iOS (along with “iPadOS”) is generally built once (except in rare cases where we’ll see two build numbers for a given seed) and then, as part of the build, features are removed or restricted based on sets of devices. This method has worked for Apple for years, allowing them to efficiently implement most features once and make them available on as many devices as reasonably possible.

There’s zero functional reason for them to change this, and there are quite a few reasons why they shouldn’t change it. The effort required to implement and test features instantly goes up with what to show for it? Nothing.

iPadOS will be iOS for the foreseeable future. There’s no “branching” because it doesn’t make sense.
 
jonblatho said:
As of now, iOS (along with “iPadOS”) is generally built once (except in rare cases where we’ll see two build numbers for a given seed) and then, as part of the build, features are removed or restricted based on sets of devices. This method has worked for Apple for years, allowing them to efficiently implement most features once and make them available on as many devices as reasonably possible.

There’s zero functional reason for them to change this, and there are quite a few reasons why they shouldn’t change it. The effort required to implement and test features instantly goes up with what to show for it? Nothing.

iPadOS will be iOS for the foreseeable future. There’s no “branching” because it doesn’t make sense.
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I disagree.
 
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gwhizkids said:
I need to be a software engineer to have an opinion on this?
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They’re one of those people who are on a high pedestal. Basically, they’re saying if you’re not a software engineer, your opinion is invalidated and your thoughts and knowledge on the matter is irrelevant due to not being a software engineer, being employed in their field and/or having a degree in their field.

*queue major argument*
 
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Seeing all these jailbreak tweaks makes me wish iOS 13 had more the tweaks are amazing
 
jonblatho said:
Are you a software engineer?

I know I wouldn’t fork my iOS app and maintain two or more copies in parallel for just about any reason, and I don’t have nearly Apple’s scale or the complexity of iOS to worry about. Too much room for human error.
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As a software engineer, would you have ever come out with the name iPad OS then knowing it is the "same" iOS? No way.

We all know it is the same...for now...but seriously, they could have simply said, "we have even more new updates that make iOS work even better on iPad." But they didn't.

I think we can infer that the increasingly small differences between Mac and iOS on iPad will probably lead to a split eventually.
 
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