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gwhizkids

macrumors G5
Jun 21, 2013
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I kind of hope WatchOS isn’t done, i installed the latest beta and I’m not impressed with the battery life at all.... I have only about 8 hours off the charger and I am almost 50% battery left. This is with lite usage as well.
Its still a beta and probably doing lots of logging etc... Final will almost certainly be better
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Methinks he is losing viewers and is trying to dial up the drama.
 

LFC2020

macrumors P6
Apr 4, 2020
16,874
38,037
Its still a beta and probably doing lots of logging etc... Final will almost certainly be better
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Methinks he is losing viewers and is trying to dial up the drama.

Doubt it, his record has been pretty spot on far. He does act like a idiot most of the time tHough. 😂
 

LFC2020

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Apr 4, 2020
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This very proven leaker says otherwise...

Starting to think it could be the announcement for the iPhone event.

Or the new iPad Air.

Can’t see iOS 14 being released, since we didn’t get a beta this week.
 

LFC2020

macrumors P6
Apr 4, 2020
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You are right! I didn't think of that. Maybe we may get the announcements???

Hope so, it’s the only thing that makes sense at the moment, since Apple Watch series 6 apparently isn’t getting released, and we didn’t get another iOS 14 beta this week, can’t see iOS 14 releasing anytime soon to be honest.

Unless it’s the worst possible scenario, the boring new iPad Air gets released.
😱😳🥺😂
 

gwhizkids

macrumors G5
Jun 21, 2013
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At this point, I am not 100% ruling anything out between now and October 31. For all we know, they could do the phone announcement next week and then say: "Available in late October!". I don't think so, but not entirely out of the realm of possibility.

Remember, the key thing is to put these devices on holiday shopping lists. The Christmas quarter is by far the biggest of Apple's year and they don't want people making other purchase plans because they don't know what the iPhone 12 will be like. It will hurt them if they can't do a reveal until after 10/15.
 

Jimpilot

macrumors 68000
Sep 11, 2014
1,547
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No
At this point, I am not 100% ruling anything out between now and October 31. For all we know, they could do the phone announcement next week and then say: "Available in late October!". I don't think so, but not entirely out of the realm of possibility.

Remember, the key thing is to put these devices on holiday shopping lists. The Christmas quarter is by far the biggest of Apple's year and they don't want people making other purchase plans because they don't know what the iPhone 12 will be like. It will hurt them if they can't do a reveal until after 10/15.

of course unless they discount them now, all existing iPhone sales will tank until new phones if they announce that far in advance
 

Dwalls90

macrumors 603
Feb 5, 2009
5,505
4,568
From Apple's perspective, the beauty of recorded presentations vs. live events (e.g. WWDC 2020), is that they can just drop the announcement/recorded presentation and update the store whenever they want. There is no need for an invite to be sent out days or weeks in advance, and generally speaking, we know Apple likes to give us as little info as possible until a product is ready to launch. If they had it their way, we would never be able to guesstimate when software or product releases were likely to happen. Different from WWDC where there were virtual sessions, there isn't even a level of personal interaction that will take place with the remaining product announcements. It's just a recorded product announcement, or basically a glorified advertisement, meaning Apple has even more freedom over scheduling them. Apple likely already has these recorded and ready for the public.

How does this relate to iOS 14? Even if there is a product announcement next week on 9/8, which is still feasible given the above, the products won't be available for pre-order or shipping until the following Friday at the earliest (my best guess, based on prior trends). This means we could see beta 7 tomorrow or early next week, which is really just the GM with the "a" on the build. I think we're due for a beta between now and early next week, since we're now on the weekly train, and we haven't received one in over a week at this point. We could then receive the GM the following Monday (9/14), and public release on 9/18. This is roughly consistent with prior years too, noting that this year has been anything but ordinary...

Seeing as at this point the rumors seem to indicate the iPhone is delayed, if the Apple Watch and iPad are delayed too, then all of iOS 14 could be delayed as well. Seeing as we're only on beta 6, and WWDC was later than normal this year, perhaps everything is delayed. But given new hardware drives sales leading up to Apple's holiday quarter, and the iPhone is potentially delayed, they're incentivized to not hold back products (e.g. Watch and iPad) if they're available to be sold. So unless hardware other than the iPhone is also delayed, I think the above timing makes sense for GM and public release.
 

gank41

macrumors 601
Mar 25, 2008
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I would assume we’d have 3 weeks or so of weekly betas before anything close to a GM, which would omit all of the logging files and stuff. It’d probably also be a large file size due to it being the entire OS.

Probably another beta tomorrow.
 
From Apple's perspective, the beauty of recorded presentations vs. live events (e.g. WWDC 2020), is that they can just drop the announcement/recorded presentation and update the store whenever they want. There is no need for an invite to be sent out days or weeks in advance, and generally speaking, we know Apple likes to give us as little info as possible until a product is ready to launch. If they had it their way, we would never be able to guesstimate when software or product releases were likely to happen. Different from WWDC where there were virtual sessions, there isn't even a level of personal interaction that will take place with the remaining product announcements. It's just a recorded product announcement, or basically a glorified advertisement, meaning Apple has even more freedom over scheduling them. Apple likely already has these recorded and ready for the public.

How does this relate to iOS 14? Even if there is a product announcement next week on 9/8, which is still feasible given the above, the products won't be available for pre-order or shipping until the following Friday at the earliest (my best guess, based on prior trends). This means we could see beta 7 tomorrow or early next week, which is really just the GM with the "a" on the build. I think we're due for a beta between now and early next week, since we're now on the weekly train, and we haven't received one in over a week at this point. We could then receive the GM the following Monday (9/14), and public release on 9/18. This is roughly consistent with prior years too, noting that this year has been anything but ordinary...

Seeing as at this point the rumors seem to indicate the iPhone is delayed, if the Apple Watch and iPad are delayed too, then all of iOS 14 could be delayed as well. Seeing as we're only on beta 6, and WWDC was later than normal this year, perhaps everything is delayed. But given new hardware drives sales leading up to Apple's holiday quarter, and the iPhone is potentially delayed, they're incentivized to not hold back products (e.g. Watch and iPad) if they're available to be sold. So unless hardware other than the iPhone is also delayed, I think the above timing makes sense for GM and public release.
so when do you think iPhone and iOS GM is being released?
 

gwhizkids

macrumors G5
Jun 21, 2013
13,271
21,443
of course unless they discount them now, all existing iPhone sales will tank until new phones if they announce that far in advance

Shouldn’t they anyway? It’s no secret new phones come out in early Autumn (Northern Hemisphere, of course!) every year.
 

rdinterman

macrumors 6502
Sep 17, 2012
350
588
Florida
So if there is no Beta this week, next Monday is Labor Day so unlikely we would see anything until Wednesday. I too would really like a Big Sur Beta...freezing issues...
 
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