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ps3zocker

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For those wondering, iOS 15.1 beta is available on the new iPhones. When using another iPhone with a beta to set up, it will ask you if you want to stay on the beta program and will download 15.1 before transferring your data. I don't know if it works if you restore from iCloud or a manual backup directly but in that case you could just set it up fresh, download the beta from Settings and then restore.
 
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christian.terra

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For those wondering, iOS 15.1 beta is available on the new iPhones. When using another iPhone with a beta to set up, it will ask you if you want to stay on the beta program and will download 15.1 before transferring your data. I don't know if it works if you restore from iCloud or a manual backup directly.
thanks ! exactly what i was hoping
 

Johnick

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I installed the iOS 15 Beta release candidate when it came out, I always install the release candidate/gold master every year so I can get used to it a few days early, then I just remove the beta profile and stick to official updates after that. Today I was prompted for an update on my iPhone 12 mini that was about 500+ MB so I installed it expecting it to be something like 15.01. I installed it and it still says 15.0 but the feedback app from the beta is gone, just like every other time Ive done this.

Does anyone know what this update was for seeing as it didn't warrant a version number ?.

Thanks in advance.
 

Banglazed

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I installed the iOS 15 Beta release candidate when it came out, I always install the release candidate/gold master every year so I can get used to it a few days early, then I just remove the beta profile and stick to official updates after that. Today I was prompted for an update on my iPhone 12 mini that was about 500+ MB so I installed it expecting it to be something like 15.01. I installed it and it still says 15.0 but the feedback app from the beta is gone, just like every other time Ive done this.

Does anyone know what this update was for seeing as it didn't warrant a version number ?.

Thanks in advance.
Did you check the build number when you got the new device? According to Zollotech unboxing video, it showed the build number at 19A341 which is between beta 8 and RC build. Hence, then prompt you to install the release build 19A346. You can confirm this build in the About settings
 
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StumpyBloke

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Did you check the build number when you got the new device? According to Zollotech unboxing video, it showed the build number at 19A341 which is between beta 8 and RC build. Hence, then prompt you to install the release build 19A346. You can confirm this build in the About settings

This is exactly right. I checked the version’s pre-and post updating my 13 pro max and those version numbers are right.
 

Johnick

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I'm still using my 12 mini from last year so didnt get a new device. Checked my settings and it is indeed 19A346, never thought of checking the build number before hand though, I just assumed the RC build I downloaded on September 14th would be the same as the final official version released on the 20th.
 

Ansath

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I installed the iOS 15 Beta release candidate when it came out, I always install the release candidate/gold master every year so I can get used to it a few days early, then I just remove the beta profile and stick to official updates after that. Today I was prompted for an update on my iPhone 12 mini that was about 500+ MB so I installed it expecting it to be something like 15.01. I installed it and it still says 15.0 but the feedback app from the beta is gone, just like every other time Ive done this.

Does anyone know what this update was for seeing as it didn't warrant a version number ?.

Thanks in advance.
You said you installed the RC from last week, the public release on Monday was a newer build, likely for the Pegasus fix. That’s what that update was.
 
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macOS Lynx

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I installed the iOS 15 Beta release candidate when it came out, I always install the release candidate/gold master every year so I can get used to it a few days early, then I just remove the beta profile and stick to official updates after that. Today I was prompted for an update on my iPhone 12 mini that was about 500+ MB so I installed it expecting it to be something like 15.01. I installed it and it still says 15.0 but the feedback app from the beta is gone, just like every other time Ive done this.

Does anyone know what this update was for seeing as it didn't warrant a version number ?.

Thanks in advance.
Usually small tweaks or minor bug fixes that are important enough to be pushed now but not important enough to make note of. I know a lot of people on the RC were having multiple issues with Apple Music, which the latest revision fixes, for example.
 
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SpecMode

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is it me, but backing up iPhone with iOS 15.1 beta 1 on macOS 12.0 beta 1 to Mac, not iCloud takes for ever.

Actually backing up to iCloud seems faster than backing up to the Mac!
Local backups to a Mac include a lot of data that an iCloud backup does not (or that is synced to iCloud via another method, such as Photos or Apple Music libraries). That, and USB sync/backup over a Lightning cable is limited to USB 2.0 speeds.
 
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john991

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Local backups to a Mac include a lot of data that an iCloud backup does not (or that is synced to iCloud via another method, such as Photos or Apple Music libraries). That, and USB sync/backup over a Lightning cable is limited to USB 2.0 speeds.

that explains it. Interesting the first backup took for ever the 2nd backup went much faster!
 

adrianlondon

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I don't think local backups copy a lot more data than when backing up to iCloud, but as we're running betas there's a load of diagnostics files that sit on the phone waiting to sync. If you've not connected your phone to a laptop in a while (cable or WiFi) then they can take a long time to copy over.
 

Banglazed

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is it me, but backing up iPhone with iOS 15.1 beta 1 on macOS 12.0 beta 1 to Mac, not iCloud takes for ever.

Actually backing up to iCloud seems faster than backing up to the Mac!
Actually iPhone to iPhone connection is way faster to me using the lightning to usb camera dongle to connect both iPhone. It’s basically an exact clone.
 

SpecMode

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I don't think local backups copy a lot more data than when backing up to iCloud, but as we're running betas there's a load of diagnostics files that sit on the phone waiting to sync. If you've not connected your phone to a laptop in a while (cable or WiFi) then they can take a long time to copy over.
Local backups include the full contents of the device's Photos, Music, and TV libraries, as well as passwords and app credentials that iCloud does not back up (as long as the local backup is encrypted).

For comparison, my local encrypted iPhone 12 Pro Max backup is 195 GB, while the iCloud backup is a whopping 2 GB.
 

GizmoDVD

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For those wondering, iOS 15.1 beta is available on the new iPhones. When using another iPhone with a beta to set up, it will ask you if you want to stay on the beta program and will download 15.1 before transferring your data. I don't know if it works if you restore from iCloud or a manual backup directly but in that case you could just set it up fresh, download the beta from Settings and then restore.
mY NEW 13 pro Max is still trying to install the 15.1 (it just spins at install). Sigh.
 

SpecMode

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I'm using the iPhone-to-iPhone migration from my 12 Pro Max running 15.1b1, and the 13 Pro actually prompted me to 'continue' in the developer beta program with the new iPhone — it downloaded and installed the 15.1 beta with no issues. Maybe I caught the update server at relatively low loading or something...
 

BriceApp

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I have noticed that on 15.1b1 that the options in Accessibility/AirPods for Spatial audio has gone back to just follow iPhone/iPad. No longer can I select Video & Audio or Video Only. In the control panel volume control now allows for On and Head Tracking. This is on my new 13 and iPad Air 4.

Also, the storage issue is not an issue on my new 13, either because it is not an issue on the 13’s or because of the backup restore when setting it up. It reports correct usage and System Data is not “Zero”.

Finally, the modem firmware was 1.00.03 on 15 and on 15.1b1 it is 1.13.00 for the iPhone 13 models.
 
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H3LL5P4WN

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I'm using the iPhone-to-iPhone migration from my 12 Pro Max running 15.1b1, and the 13 Pro actually prompted me to 'continue' in the developer beta program with the new iPhone — it downloaded and installed the 15.1 beta with no issues. Maybe I caught the update server at relatively low loading or something...
I saw that too. I wish I would have known ahead of time. It would have saved me some time, lol.
 
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