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Bobout

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I think our feedback does get taking seriously but they don’t delay a beta to fix every issue..in my opinion they work on what Apple thinks is a priority not what we think needs to be fixed asap. IE the green tint..Apple employees have been probably internally testing beta 2 and probably 3 for a while now so what we send in today may not even get consider for a while..I have sent in several things that have been resolved several releases later but they never send me something saying I fixed your issue ..so never stop sending in feedback it does work in the long run..
 
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uandme72 said:
Actually it’s disappointing if our feedback on iOS bugs (not apps developed by the developers) are of no consequence. That’s perhaps the reason why many of the issues we discuss continue to persist for months together atleast.
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No one said that bug reports from DP and beta testers were of no consequence.

The developer preview releases give Apple a larger testing base with more option configurations and software combinations than they could muster on their own - therefore a larger view of real world usage... and adding the public beta several years ago expanded that universe even more... and sure they want feedback and bug reports, but that is not the same thing as a spaceship full of engineers and programmers sitting around, twiddling their thumbs waiting for us to report a bug.

They have a plan, a road map of features and changes to each version of their OSes (iOS and the others), and are actively working that plan. Again, their release schedule for dev previews and public betas has long been set, and is totally independent of our bug reports... but that does not mean that if a catastrophic bug appears that Apple developers cannot address that while continuing to carry on with their plan.

One more time, the goal from Apple is to identify and correct as many bugs as possible in the time frame allotted - which included addressing bug reports, and adding features from their road map, all while giving developers a platform to address changes and issues with their own apps relative to the new versions of their operating systems.
 
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No one said that bug reports from DP and beta testers were of no consequence.

The developer preview releases give Apple a larger testing base with more option configurations and software combinations than they could muster on their own - therefore a larger view of real world usage... and adding the public beta several years ago expanded that universe even more... and sure they want feedback and bug reports, but that is not the same thing as a spaceship full of engineers and programmers sitting around, twiddling their thumbs waiting for us to report a bug.

They have a plan, a road map of features and changes to each version if their OSes (iOS and the others), and are actively working that plan. Again, their release schedule for dev previews and public betas has long been set, and is totally independent of our bug reports... but that does not mean that if a catastrophic bug appears that Apple developers cannot address that while continuing to carry on with their plan.

One more time, the goal from Apple is to identify and correct as many bugs as possible in the time frame allotted - which included addressing bug reports, and adding features from their road map, all while giving developers a platform to address changes and issues with their own apps relative to the new versions of their operating systems.
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Well explained.
 
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uandme72 said:
Actually it’s disappointing if our feedback on iOS bugs (not apps developed by the developers) are of no consequence. That’s perhaps the reason why many of the issues we discuss continue to persist for months together atleast.
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Your over thinking it.

Apple does want you to report bugs, changes, suggestions… it’s technically employing us, without paying us, to do a large chunk of their R&D on the software. Genius if you ask me, to get this vast amount of people to help improve their software. For nothing. But then we get free software.

It’s a, I’ll scratch your back if you scratch mine kinda deal.

So they would be crazy to even entertain your notion that it’s of no consequence. Madness even, to waste all that free data from us.

Sometimes things take a while to fix, yes yes @LFC2020 its coming soon, and probably sometimes Apple just has bigger things to develop, so things fall off the side of the radar in comparison to what’s on the horizon, is pure speculation to an answer in the latter of your message.
 
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uandme72 said:
I never said our feedback is the primary source for testing inputs. Neither is the feedback expected to be implemented on the succeeding beta. In fact it has rarely if ever at all happened thus.

But if what you say is correct, do we really gain anything by submitting logs and feedback. The feedback submitted by us with log files in this situation appears to be a futile exercise.
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Why? Because you can’t perceive how Apple may have improved its software? I have submitted many radars over the years. Many are seemingly ignored, but several (taken together with other submissions) have resulted in fixes. On several other occasions, Apple engineers have requested additional data so they can understand the issue better.

I would say this is hardly a futile process. But it’s still likely secondary to Apple’s internal processes, which probably catch 99% of the bugs at the alpha stage long before we see the betas. But those 1% remain important and can be showstoppers in their own right.
 
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gwhizkids said:
Why? Because you can’t perceive how Apple may have improved its software? I have submitted many radars over the years. Many are seemingly ignored, but several (taken together with other submissions) have resulted in fixes. On several other occasions, Apple engineers have requested additional data so they can understand the issue better.

I would say this is hardly a futile process. But it’s still likely secondary to Apple’s internal processes, which probably catch 99% of the bugs at the alpha stage long before we see the betas. But those 1% remain important and can be showstoppers in their own right.
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Agreed... and is it possible that this further proves Apple's release schedule for dev preview and beta releases? The fact that the majority of issues are most likely identified in Apple's own internal alpha testing, yet still appear in DP and beta releases indicates that glitches and "gotchas" do not deter them from following their internal schedule. After all, how would they be able to identify the "Known issues" in the release notes without it? If subsequent beta releases were dictated on the (in)stability of previous beta releases, would we ever see a beta 2?
 
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gwhizkids said:
I'd say there's still a small chance for 4pm EDT. But after that, yeah, see you next week.
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Grabbing at straws. Gutted we’ve not seen anything this week.

Hope B2 is one hell of a banger after this wait. Had such a good B1, in comparison, I was convinced we’d see something.

Oh well, gonna go put the kettle on, anyone for a cuppa?
 
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gwhizkids said:
No cream? Come now...
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god yeah forgot you yanks, pure speculation you are, put cream, sugar, syrup, candy floss in anything and everything.

stood behind this lady once, after pulling over for a Starbucks on the drive from Santa Monica to Vegas, and the list went on what she wanted in on around the side of her coffee. Extra hot, double froth, Triple laite, extra extra grande, vegan paper cup, added a coup-on… I was pissing myself with a shocked faced emoji.
 
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Pearslikethefruit said:
god yeah forgot you yanks, pure speculation you are, put cream, sugar, syrup, candy floss in anything and everything.

stood behind this lady once, after pulling over for a Starbucks on the drive from Santa Monica to Vegas, and the list went on what she wanted in on around the side of her coffee. Extra hot, double froth, Triple laite, extra extra grande, vegan paper cup, added a coup-on… I was pissing myself with a shocked faced emoji.
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Heaven forbid we actually taste the main ingredient! Our motto is that it simply be a suitable carrier for whatever sugar-based product we care to add!
 
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