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ericg301

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Has anyone considered that the battery health metrics may be in beta too? Not reliable until we get a RC?
 
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AlexJ092

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Sorry scrap that! It was 96% earlier today and has now dropped to 95% 😳
 

Ryan1524

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Down to 93%. Was 100% pre-Beta. I wonder what's actually going on. I don't think the phone is getting more hot than normal.
 

dannyyankou

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Mar 2, 2012
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I figured out why I had such a fast and dramatic drop in battery health, and why it's been stuck on 81% for a long time ever since. The AC in my car broke down for an about a month. I think that was overheating the phone, I kept getting messages that charging was put on hold and the brightness dimmed. Ever since I got the AC fixed, it's been stuck on 81%.

But now that I'm at 81%, I want to get below 80% so Apple can replace my battery for free under AppleCare lol
 

DMG35

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May 27, 2021
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Weird, I'm still at 100% on the latest Beta. Will see if it lasts this week when the new beta comes out.
 

bricktop_at

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Apr 4, 2017
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Down from 100% battery health before installing the iOS 17 beta and I am now on 96%
Exactly how it‘s been for me as well. Had 100% before installing my first Beta (2 or 3, don’t remember) and with every update it dropped 1% and now I‘m at 96%.

(iPhone 14PM)
 
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Mikle

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I’m experiencing the same thing on my 14Pro. It dropped 1% with every update.
 

Pearsey

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The way I treat my battery and 🔋📱 100% battery health - 1 year on!

My Phone is weeks away from being a year old and I still have 100% battery health 🤯

Heres what I do, not to say it works for everyone, but hope it helps.
I've been doing this since iOS 15, on my main device, using all the betas - currently on iPhone 14 Pro.

- I charge my phone when it hits red, or, if its at 50% before I go out.
- I do use tethered car play too - but I'm not in the car daily.

Optimised charge is off, because I don't like leaving my phone on charge all night, I think that's the damage which ages these battery's so quickly with all that charging, nearly 8 hours of it if you sleep well. No need, regardless of the features function, which ether works or doesn't some nights and can lead to more charing in the day because your left at 80% first thing. Over a year, those nights it doesn't work is where the damage creeps in, I think anyway.

Don't over charge, meaning, I have a shortcut set up with an alert when my phone hits 100% after charging, so I unplug it.

Battery's are there to be used, use it and enjoy your phone. If it runs down, charge it up. People get so transfixed in wanting a phone to charge to 100% and it lasting 2-3 days - The Nokia 5110 days are gone. It depends how much you also use it. Some days, yeah, I get 2 days out of it. Other days I hit red twice in a day. It really doesn't matter.
If your phones at 100% and 10 minutes later your on 50%, then thats a different story. Call Apple.

This is my personal battery treatment and it works for me. You might completely disagree with everything I've said or do and believe optimised charging is a wonder to the world, thats fine, thats you. I'm not saying I'm right ether.

Hope this helps 👍🏼

🍐


Screen grabs of Battery stats from Settings on my iphone and Coconut Battery downloaded onto my MBP.
 

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Pearsey

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Another 1% taken today. Down to 94% now.

100% down to 94% since running the public betas.

Hope it doesn’t go below 90% before I chop my phone in next month!

I saw this a lot on my iphone 12 main device when on ios 15 betas... thats when i dropped optimised charging and charging through the night.

check out the post above.

👍🏼
 

iFone88

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I saw this a lot on my iphone 12 main device when on ios 15 betas... thats when i dropped optimised charging and charging through the night.

check out the post above.

👍🏼
Good post that.

I'll probably look to do something like that with my next phone.

Would you mind sharing the shortcut for the alarm at 100% charge?
 
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Pearsey

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Good post that.

I'll probably look to do something like that with my next phone.

Would you mind sharing the shortcut for the alarm at 100% charge?

Weirdly can’t easily find how to share an automation… so these are the settings buddy. I’ve just googled how to create a short cut and add the automation, so it is possible.
 

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MacUser0011

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🔋📱 100% battery health - 1 year on!

My Phone is weeks away from being a year old and I still have 100% battery health 🤯

Heres what I do, not to say it works for everyone, but hope it helps.
I've been doing this since iOS 15, on my main device, using all the betas - currently on iPhone 14 Pro.

- I charge my phone when it hits red, or, if its at 50% before I go out.
- I do use tethered car play too - but I'm not in the car daily.

Optimised charge is off, because I don't like leaving my phone on charge all night, I think that's the damage which ages these battery's so quickly with all that charging, nearly 8 hours of it if you sleep well. No need, regardless of the features function, which ether works or doesn't some nights and can lead to more charing in the day because your left at 80% first thing. Over a year, those nights it doesn't work is where the damage creeps in, I think anyway.

Don't over charge, meaning, I have a shortcut set up with an alert when my phone hits 100% after charging, so I unplug it.

Battery's are there to be used, use it and enjoy your phone. If it runs down, charge it up. People get so transfixed in wanting a phone to charge to 100% and it lasting 2-3 days - The Nokia 5110 days are gone. It depends how much you also use it. Some days, yeah, I get 2 days out of it. Other days I hit red twice in a day. It really doesn't matter.
If your phones at 100% and 10 minutes later your on 50%, then thats a different story. Call Apple.

This is my personal battery behaviour and it works for me. You might completely disagree with everything I've said or do and believe optimised charging is a wonder to the world, thats fine, thats you. I'm not saying I'm right ether, I'm saying, I still have 100% battery health a year on... have you?

Hope this helps 👍🏼

🍐


Screen grabs of Battery stats from Settings on my iphone and Coconut Battery downloaded onto my MBP.

Nice tips, but battery health is mainly about cycles. The people who uses their phone more, the faster the battery degrades.

If you follow zollotech, you can see he’s cycles is a lot more than you. You have very few cycles to have a year old phone (like me) and of course the health is 100%.

When you run into 200+ cycles, the battery starts to go down.
 

Pearsey

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Nice tips, but battery health is mainly about cycles. The people who uses their phone more, the faster the battery degrades.

If you follow zollotech, you can see he’s cycles is a lot more than you. You have very few cycles to have a year old phone (like me) and of course the health is 100%.

When you run into 200+ cycles, the battery starts to go down.

Yeah I do, he’s always going on about 100% battery health.

Good management of the battery can’t hurt the health, as people on here losing health, on newer phones than mine, every beta. One of those things I stopped, because that was me once, was over night charging 👍🏼
 

MacUser0011

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Yeah I do, he’s always going on about 100% battery health.

Good management of the battery can’t hurt the health, as people on here losing health, on newer phones than mine, every beta. One of those things I stopped, because that was me once, was over night charging 👍🏼

He always had 100% health after a year because the iPhones before 14 didn't have always on display. Always on display uses 1-2% per hour right? and that's maybe 20% during one day. That's means one more cycle than usual per week or something like that. one year has 52 weeks and that's ofc 52 more cycles wasted on the always on display. You has 150 cycles and still are on 100% (I don't know if you are using AOD?). If you were, you would have 200+ cycles now and the battery would start to go down...

Also the iOS 17 betas have been extra hard on the battery and thus used more cycles than usual betas.

If you were to use AOD and just have 147 cycles, then you are really not using your phone much...
 

RSmith2023

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Sep 26, 2015
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I usually don’t gripe about having abnormal battery drain but b7 is brutal. Trying to see if I can figure it out but it just seems that almost all of the apps I normally use are more aggressive on the battery on this beta.
 

phrekaru

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Jul 13, 2017
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He always had 100% health after a year because the iPhones before 14 didn't have always on display. Always on display uses 1-2% per hour right? and that's maybe 20% during one day. That's means one more cycle than usual per week or something like that. one year has 52 weeks and that's ofc 52 more cycles wasted on the always on display. You has 150 cycles and still are on 100% (I don't know if you are using AOD?). If you were, you would have 200+ cycles now and the battery would start to go down...

Also the iOS 17 betas have been extra hard on the battery and thus used more cycles than usual betas.

If you were to use AOD and just have 147 cycles, then you are really not using your phone much...
I disable AOD with my sleep focus because I didn't see the worth while I'm sleeping.
 

17fox

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Sep 6, 2022
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Vienna, Austria
Nice tips, but battery health is mainly about cycles. The people who uses their phone more, the faster the battery degrades.

If you follow zollotech, you can see he’s cycles is a lot more than you. You have very few cycles to have a year old phone (like me) and of course the health is 100%.

When you run into 200+ cycles, the battery starts to go down.
Well, yes, it's usually about cycles, but my 13 Pro has the same battery health of 89% with around 700 cycles and his 14 Pro Max is around 200-250 cylces with the same battery health. That's why I guess there could be some sort of issue with his particular phone, but I'm not 100% sure
 
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