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ht5pilot

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Just downloaded and installed 17.0.3. We will see if this fixes our battery/overheating issues.
 
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FeliApple

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I'm not sure how one go about downgrading, I'm sure it wasn't sort of straightforward job, is been a while since I even looked in to as I didn't need it before. I do hope there will be fix soon or at least update with some improvement, I'm not in position to drop 1k on new phone specially when I belive this is ios and not hardware.
It’s always iOS and never hardware!
 
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James6s

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12 hours later…. 14PM 17.1 b2.
 

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ade555

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17.0.3 downloading, I have high hopes 🤞 will let you know tomorrow how I get on with battery
 
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chriswhv6

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Finally Battery optimization kicked in for the first time again since updating to iOS 17 two and half weeks ago!
(14 Pro Max)
 

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Hi guys. Firts of all i want to say that reading battery status is very not comfortable on apple devices, it is not clear for me. Am i stupid or something? This 3 hrs colums are so hard to read... Can i somehow get more clear info?
I got 13 pro, and 91% of health and i do not know how much it should work on battery. I always go to sleep with youtube videos ane even on premium, i often forget to disable screen.
Anyway i do not believe in this statistics, because its hard to say that for the last 9 hours screen was off only for 35 min? While battery was charged another 5 hours before...

Anyway do i feel correct that on 17 phone is more often a little hot on its back than it was before this update?
 

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Hi guys. Firts of all i want to say that reading battery status is very not comfortable on apple devices, it is not clear for me. Am i stupid or something? This 3 hrs colums are so hard to read... Can i somehow get more clear info?
I got 13 pro, and 91% of health and i do not know how much it should work on battery. I always go to sleep with youtube videos ane even on premium, i often forget to disable screen.
Anyway i do not believe in this statistics, because its hard to say that for the last 9 hours screen was off only for 35 min? While battery was charged another 5 hours before...

Anyway do i feel correct that on 17 phone is more often a little hot on its back than it was before this update?
To answer some of your question, iphone will display battery usage over last 24h or 10 days and not since last charged. Screen off time mean there was activity but screen was off, example been on call ect., that's my understanding. To get your hours and min you need to tap on each section of graph in green and add min manually unless the beginning of your graph is 100% charged. I have no idea what is the avarage battery usage on iphone 13 Pro, this will very by user and how they use the device, as longest you happy with it that all it matters. If I use my device a lot iphone does get warm but I had this on all previous ios. Saying that I had once battery charging paused due to iphone temp but device wasn't warm.
 
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ade555

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Well news are not great been honest, I was hopping after update I would see improvement but is not. Since last charge SOT 3h29 min and 22 min Screen off. All this is on cellular and not wifi. Interested why it says last charged to 97% 🤷. You can see on graph the min you start using battery just drops like crazy.
 

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Pretty happy with the battery performance on 17.1 beta 2. I haven’t been on it as much today…
 

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Superrenz

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Had 105 minutes of screen on time today and the battery is down to 66% with mixed usage of phone calls, email, Facebook, Safari a.s.o... what do you think of the battery drain? ok? I am on 17.1. Beta 2. with a 15Pro
 

boswald

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I haven’t noticed any significant changes from 16 to 17, let alone incremental updates (14 PM). I just accepted the battery life for what it is and work around it.

To be honest, I’ve never had ANY phone live up to the marketing promises anyway, so I don’t expect miracles to begin with.
 

James6s

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Down to 50%, 17.1 b2. Definitely better than any another version of 17 I’ve had on my 14PM 👌🏻
 

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FeliApple

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Down to 50%, 17.1 b2. Definitely better than any another version of 17 I’ve had on my 14PM 👌🏻
This looks... usable, but it looks like a little under 5 hours on 50%. For a Pro Max, I’d expect better. What do you have brightness set at?

Like I’ve always said at these posts: I’m not a heavy user, in terms of settings, usage, AND screen-on time. While I acknowledge that it’s pointless to compare different usage patterns (I have seen that myself, on my devices), it’s difficult to find that number amazing when my 7-year-old iPhone 6s on iOS 10 with light usage can get to about 4 hours on 50%.

Would the 6s get to 4 hours with your usage? Absolutely not, but still. The number by itself isn’t amazing.
 

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This looks... usable, but it looks like a little under 5 hours on 50%. For a Pro Max, I’d expect better. What do you have brightness set at?

Like I’ve always said at these posts: I’m not a heavy user, in terms of settings, usage, AND screen-on time. While I acknowledge that it’s pointless to compare different usage patterns (I have seen that myself, on my devices), it’s difficult to find that number amazing when my 7-year-old iPhone 6s on iOS 10 with light usage can get to about 4 hours on 50%.

Would the 6s get to 4 hours with your usage? Absolutely not, but still. The number by itself isn’t amazing.
Screen is set on auto brightness so it varies I guess, not one level all the time. I had an 11PM before this with 81% battery health and that needed charged sometimes twice in a day with my usage.

I’m happy that I can get through a full day with somewhere between 40-45% left by bedtime, then just charge in the morning back up to 90-100%.

I would expect at a push and with lighter usage could get well into day 2 before hitting 0%.
 

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FeliApple

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Screen is set on auto brightness so it varies I guess, not one level all the time. I had an 11PM before this with 81% battery health and that needed charged sometimes twice in a day with my usage.

I’m happy that I can get through a full day with somewhere between 40-45% left by bedtime, then just charge in the morning back up to 90-100%.

I would expect at a push and with lighter usage could get well into day 2 before hitting 0%.
This is where the only explanation that fits is you being a heavier user. Like I said, usage is everything. I haven’t had a lot of iPhones, but I’ve used them in a wide variety of conditions, and even relatively small changes in terms of Wi-Fi vs cellular, screen brightness, and apps used have a massive impact on battery life.

All of that is true! But... the iPhone 11 Pro Max, at least on iOS 13, should obliterate my iPhone Xʀ on iOS 12. So, the only explanation that comes to mind is that the combo of you being a heavier user + the impact of iOS 16 combined with the battery health (which like I said a million times only matters if sufficiently updated) makes it so poor that you’d have to charge twice a day.

Otherwise... it doesn’t make sense. Even very heavy camera days with high brightness on my Xʀ ended up with 4.5 hours of screen-on time with 60% left. Yes, efficient settings and iOS 12, but still, heavy camera usage, high brightness. One of the heaviest usage patterns, and I am having better battery life than a 14 Pro Max and an 11 Pro Max? Unless iOS 12 on the A12 Bionic is the most efficient version of all time, it doesn’t make sense.
 
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James6s

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This is where the only explanation that fits is you being a heavier user. Like I said, usage is everything. I haven’t had a lot of iPhones, but I’ve used them in a wide variety of conditions, and even relatively small changes in terms of Wi-Fi va cellular, screen brightness, and apps used have a massive impact on battery life.

All of that is true! But... the iPhone 11 Pro Max, at least on iOS 13, should obliterate my iPhone Xʀ on iOS 12. So, the only explanation that comes to mind is that the combo of you being a heavier user + the impact of iOS 16 combined with the battery health (which like I said a million times only matters if sufficiently updated) makes it so poor that you’d have to charge twice a day.

Otherwise... it doesn’t make sense. Even very heavy camera days with high brightness on my Xʀ ended up with 4.5 hours of screen-on time with 60% left. Yes, efficient settings and iOS 12, but still, heavy camera usage, high brightness. One of the heaviest usage patterns, and I am having better battery life than a 14 Pro Max and an 11 Pro Max? Unless iOS 12 on the A12 Bionic is the most efficient version of all time, it doesn’t make sense.
The A12 must be loving iOS 12! I bet battery life would drop sharply if you updated to the latest software for the XR. My 11PM was on its 4th major software update with degrading battery capacity, the 14PM is only on its first and the battery is sub par on iOS 17.

Probably looking at 9-10 hours of screen on time if I let it go 100-0%. I don’t think that’s bad for heavier use. Could be better, hope future updates improve it….
 
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