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bktpl

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I mean Erase All Contents and Settings
After that procedure, are You able to pick one of backups?
How can i know i got backup🙃
What i nees to manually fix after this to have all settings like before?

What i do not like very much, after 17 i am on 89 batery condition, and before i had 91... In few days. How can we get any refunds from apple because in my opinion it is not normal. My iphone 13p is 1 year phone...
 

James6s

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First day of 14PM on 17.1 b3. Been getting some use today, just hit 50%. I was struggling to get 5 hours of screen time down to 50% on previous betas with same usage, so about an hour more on b3.
 

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FeliApple

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First day of 14PM on 17.1 b3. Been getting some use today, just hit 50%. I was struggling to get 5 hours of screen time down to 50% on previous betas with same usage, so about an hour more on b3.
That looks better! Still not what I’d expect from a 14 Pro Max, but at least that’s better than my 9.7-inch iPad Pro on iOS 12, which generally doesn’t get to 6 hours on 50%.

Looks like total screen-on time might a little over 11 hours. Good enough I’d say!
 

James6s

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That looks better! Still not what I’d expect from a 14 Pro Max, but at least that’s better than my 9.7-inch iPad Pro on iOS 12, which generally doesn’t get to 6 hours on 50%.

Looks like total screen-on time might a little over 11 hours. Good enough I’d say!
Yes, I’m pretty happy with that and it’s nice to see an improvement, even if small.
 
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cigz

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First day of 14PM on 17.1 b3. Been getting some use today, just hit 50%. I was struggling to get 5 hours of screen time down to 50% on previous betas with same usage, so about an hour more on b3.
Wow, that's actually amazing compared to my battery life.
Today, on 17.1 B3, I got 2,5h SOT with 50% battery left. I'm at 31% left with 3h48m SOT 🤷‍♂️

I know this is a beta, but geez. It's getting annoying at this point because I don't see any improvement (well at least it's not getting worse lol) since 17.0 beta 7
 

James6s

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Wow, that's actually amazing compared to my battery life.
Today, on 17.1 B3, I got 2,5h SOT with 50% battery left. I'm at 31% left with 3h48m SOT 🤷‍♂️

I know this is a beta, but geez. It's getting annoying at this point because I don't see any improvement (well at least it's not getting worse lol) since 17.0 beta 7
What device are you using? I’ve mainly been on WiFi today too. Definitely an improvement over the last few betas.
 

MrMiyagi1

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I went to the Apple Store about the battery health issues. As like others mines has been dropping since iOS 17. Had my iPhone 14 pro since start of this year. I had 95% battery health on day iOS17 launched and now I am at 92%

I have not changed any of my iPhone usage. I use it the way I normally use it. Apple said that they don’t see anything wrong with the battery and according to the tests they did it’s all normal.

They cannot explain the sudden drop of battery health. The way things are going in a few weeks my battery health will be below 80% so I can then get a new battery.

Meanwhile I don’t know if this is good or not. From taking off my iPhone from the wired 20w charger I was at 100% this morning about 6am where I am. as of now it’s 17% and my screen time active is 3hr 20 min and screen idle time is 14h 2m. Is this normal or would you say it’s good or not when it comes to my battery usage for the day. I have only watched bits of YouTube and listen to some podcasts and browsed safari and did emails etc and listened to some music today.
 

Gator5000e

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I had terrible battery life after upgrading to iOS 17, but I think I fixed it. With iOS 16, the battery life of my iPhone 14 was excellent: I'd charge it, then keep it off the charger for over 24 hours, and I'd still have 50% battery. That changed with iOS 17. Suddenly I was losing 25% of battery during the night (7-8 hours), even though I wasn't using the device at all. Curiously during the day while I was using apps, the decline was also about 25-30% every 8 hours. With iOS 16, I don't think I was losing more than 10-15% over the same period. The system didn't show any app using excessive amount of battery. It was clear some hidden system process was causing the drain, not a user facing app.

I thought it would fix itself a couple of days after the upgrade but it didn't. iOS 17.1 public beta 1 and 2 didn't improve anything so I decided to reset the device. It is a painful process, but the battery got so bad that I didn't know what else to do. I restored from an iCloud backup. And I'm happy to report that 24 hours after the reset, my battery is as good as it was with iOS 16. As I'm writing this post I still have 56% of battery, even though I unplugged from the charger 24.5 hours ago.

Edit: By reset I mean "Erase All Content and Settings"
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Above: iOS 17 before reset: went down to about 60% in 12 hours (9pm to 9am) of almost no use.


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Above: iOS 17 after reset, battery went down to 60% after 24 hours of normal use.

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Above: 36 hours after reset, barely any battery was used overnight
Has this solution held up since you did the erase and restore? I did that to one of my watches after an update and it actually worked to improve the battery. So I am curious to hear if you still feel like it helped. Thanks.
 

minato21

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I went to the Apple Store about the battery health issues. As like others mines has been dropping since iOS 17. Had my iPhone 14 pro since start of this year. I had 95% battery health on day iOS17 launched and now I am at 92%

I have not changed any of my iPhone usage. I use it the way I normally use it. Apple said that they don’t see anything wrong with the battery and according to the tests they did it’s all normal.

They cannot explain the sudden drop of battery health. The way things are going in a few weeks my battery health will be below 80% so I can then get a new battery.

Meanwhile I don’t know if this is good or not. From taking off my iPhone from the wired 20w charger I was at 100% this morning about 6am where I am. as of now it’s 17% and my screen time active is 3hr 20 min and screen idle time is 14h 2m. Is this normal or would you say it’s good or not when it comes to my battery usage for the day. I have only watched bits of YouTube and listen to some podcasts and browsed safari and did emails etc and listened to some music today.
That doesn’t sound right, your screen idle time is super high so if you aren’t listening to music/podcasts etc all day then you have something stuck in the background draining your battery. Can you post a screenshot of your usage stats + apps in the battery section?
 
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MrMiyagi1

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That doesn’t sound right, your screen idle time is super high so if you aren’t listening to music/podcasts etc all day then you have something stuck in the background draining your battery. Can you post a screenshot of your usage stats + apps in the battery section?
Oh I do have a vpn on all the time. See below. But with the vpn on which is running in the background constantly does my battery usage seem okay then?
 

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FeliApple

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Oh I do have a vpn on all the time. See below. But with the vpn on which is running in the background constantly does my battery usage seem okay then?
The VPN is obliterating your battery. That’s extremely poor.
 

MrMiyagi1

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Dec 22, 2019
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The VPN is obliterating your battery. That’s extremely poor.
Yeah your right now you mentioned it lol. It’s just a habit having it on. I will switch it off and use it when needed to be put on and see if that makes a difference.
 

ManuCH

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The battery of the 15 Pro Max is an absolute disaster (iOS 17.0.3). I notice that depending on what kind of network I am on it can get really bad. I've been traveling around these past days, right now I am in France where networks are known to use more power for some reason, and I've been taking pictures in the sun ... but this is the worst I've ever seen.


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FeliApple

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The battery of the 15 Pro Max is an absolute disaster (iOS 17.0.3). I notice that depending on what kind of network I am on it can get really bad. I've been traveling around these past days, right now I am in France where networks are known to use more power for some reason, and I've been taking pictures in the sun ... but this is the worst I've ever seen.


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High brightness camera usage will obliterate any battery, I wouldn’t take it as a benchmark.

I haven’t had many iPhones, but very efficient ones on efficient iOS versions, with great battery life. No iPhone has been remotely good with high brightness camera usage. Some are better than others, but none can be described as great, even with efficient settings.
 
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tzxsean

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battery life has been all crap since iOS 17.0.2 > Beta 1/2/3 > 17.0.3 for my 15 Pro

Done reset all settings and restore as new phone but it doesn't help

Could it be hardware (battery) issue or just iOS optimisation?
 

krvld

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Idle battery drain is great on 17.1 B3 with light use this morning, 14PM. Nearly 3 hours on 100%.
It changes to 99% only when the phone is at around 95% real capacity (hardware measurement can be seen on WiFi via coconutBattery).
 
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fred5

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Has this solution held up since you did the erase and restore? I did that to one of my watches after an update and it actually worked to improve the battery. So I am curious to hear if you still feel like it helped. Thanks.
Yes battery life is a lot better now, over a week later.
 

deep1

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First day of 14PM on 17.1 b3. Been getting some use today, just hit 50%. I was struggling to get 5 hours of screen time down to 50% on previous betas with same usage, so about an hour more on b3.
That's no where close to what I am getting on 15PM, any special battery saving setting you use or what is tuned on/off ie Siri, Background app refresh etc?
 

James6s

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That's no where close to what I am getting on 15PM, any special battery saving setting you use or what is tuned on/off ie Siri, Background app refresh etc?
Is yours better or worse? Background app refresh is off for most apps, Siri always on and listening. That’s it really.

Starting the day on 17.1RC, so see how this goes. May take a day or two to settle down.
 

deep1

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Is yours better or worse? Background app refresh is off for most apps, Siri always on and listening. That’s it really.

Starting the day on 17.1RC, so see how this goes. May take a day or two to settle down.
Worse, I get about 7/8 SOT on 15 PM on 17.0.3, haven't installed 17.1 , will do to see if any better.
 
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