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NJRonbo

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And the backup on the Mac must be archived. It’s not sufficient to merely save it.

Could you be more specific? I am in the process of backing up my iPhone to my Macbook Pro as I type this. Simply plugged in my phone, went to FINDER -> GENERAL and selected BACK UP ALL DATA ON YOUR PHONE TO THIS MAC.

Anything else I am missing? Thank You
 

gwhizkids

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Thank you for the non-preaching answer. Appreciated.

I am in the process of installing it knowing the risks.

If things go bad, I can simply erase the phone and restore it from an iOS 16 backup. Correct?

Here is the full process for moving back to iOS 16 (generated by Google’s AI search feature!)

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here are the steps on how to restore to an older version of iOS:
Make sure you have a[n archived (𝘮𝘺 𝘢𝘥𝘥𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦)] backup of your device. Downgrading iOS will erase all of your data, so it's important to have a backup in case anything goes wrong. You can back up your device to iTunes, iCloud, or a computer.
Download the IPSW file for the older version of iOS. You can find IPSW files for older versions of iOS on the Apple website.
Put your device into recovery mode. The steps for putting your device into recovery mode vary depending on the model of your device. You can find instructions for putting your device into recovery mode on the Apple website.
Open iTunes or Finder. If you're using a Mac, you'll need to open Finder. If you're using a PC, you'll need to open iTunes.
Connect your device to your computer. Once your device is connected to your computer, iTunes or Finder should open automatically.
Hold down the Shift key (PC) or Option key (Mac). While you're holding down the Shift or Option key, click the "Restore" button in iTunes or Finder.
Select the IPSW file for the older version of iOS. A window will open asking you to select the IPSW file for the older version of iOS. Select the IPSW file that you downloaded in step 2.
Click "Restore." iTunes or Finder will begin restoring your device to the older version of iOS. This process may take a few minutes.
Once the restore process is complete, your device will be running the older version of iOS. You can then restore your data from your backup.
It is important to note that Apple may not allow you to downgrade to an older version of iOS if the older version is no longer being signed. If this is the case, you will not be able to downgrade to the older version of iOS.
 

gwhizkids

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Could you be more specific? I am in the process of backing up my iPhone to my Macbook Pro as I type this. Simply plugged in my phone, went to FINDER -> GENERAL and selected BACK UP ALL DATA ON YOUR PHONE TO THIS MAC.

Anything else I am missing? Thank You

To archive an iOS backup, follow these steps:
Connect your iOS device to your Mac using a Lightning cable.
Open Finder.
In the Finder sidebar, select your iOS device.
Click the "Back Up Now" button.
Once the backup is complete, click the "Manage Backups" button.
Select the backup that you want to archive.
Right-click or Control-click the backup and select "Archive."
The backup will be moved to the "Archived Backups" folder.
Note that archived backups are not overwritten when you create new backups. This means that you can keep old backups for safekeeping, even if you create new backups in the future.
Here are some reasons why you might want to archive an iOS backup:
To keep a copy of your data in case your device is lost or stolen.
To restore your device to a previous state if something goes wrong.
To share your backup with someone else.
To back up your backup.
 

NJRonbo

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To archive an iOS backup, follow these steps:
Connect your iOS device to your Mac using a Lightning cable.
Open Finder.
In the Finder sidebar, select your iOS device.
Click the "Back Up Now" button.
Once the backup is complete, click the "Manage Backups" button.
Select the backup that you want to archive.
Right-click or Control-click the backup and select "Archive."
The backup will be moved to the "Archived Backups" folder.
Note that archived backups are not overwritten when you create new backups. This means that you can keep old backups for safekeeping, even if you create new backups in the future.
Here are some reasons why you might want to archive an iOS backup:
To keep a copy of your data in case your device is lost or stolen.
To restore your device to a previous state if something goes wrong.
To share your backup with someone else.
To back up your backup.


Beautiful! I can't thank you enough. Archiving will be my next step after my backup is done.

Appreciate the time you spent supplying this information. It will help those of us who want to take the risk of installing iO17 but yet have the safeguard of reverting back to iO16 should the bugs become intolerable. Thank you, again.
 

Sal09

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Sep 21, 2014
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To archive an iOS backup, follow these steps:
Connect your iOS device to your Mac using a Lightning cable.
Open Finder.
In the Finder sidebar, select your iOS device.
Click the "Back Up Now" button.
Once the backup is complete, click the "Manage Backups" button.
Select the backup that you want to archive.
Right-click or Control-click the backup and select "Archive."
The backup will be moved to the "Archived Backups" folder.
Note that archived backups are not overwritten when you create new backups. This means that you can keep old backups for safekeeping, even if you create new backups in the future.
Here are some reasons why you might want to archive an iOS backup:
To keep a copy of your data in case your device is lost or stolen.
To restore your device to a previous state if something goes wrong.
To share your backup with someone else.
To back up your backup.
I got fed up yesterday with it being so late in UK.
Did an iCloud backup and then switched the toggle off lol.
And updated to iOS 17.
Plus i don't know about others but most of my stuff is on Cloud which helps me setup device from new (no restore) without loosing anything.
 
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New call screen in iOS 17. Call screen has not changed since forever.

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gwhizkids

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I got fed up yesterday with it being so late in UK.
Did an iCloud backup and then switched the toggle off lol.
And updated to iOS 17.
Plus i don't know about others but most of my stuff is on Cloud which helps me setup device from new (no restore) without loosing anything.

The risk today is definitely a lot less than it used to be. But you can still lose settings (which can be a pain to redo) and (I believe) health data and streaks.
 

krishnajha

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Beautiful! I can't thank you enough. Archiving will be my next step after my backup is done.

Appreciate the time you spent supplying this information. It will help those of us who want to take the risk of installing iO17 but yet have the safeguard of reverting back to iO16 should the bugs become intolerable. Thank you, again.
Also, if I remember well you have to do a encrypted backup so all the sensitive data is also stored, like health and Apple Watch fitness tracks, if no, everything will be lost even if all the other information is in the backup
 

NJRonbo

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Question:

I have Apple Watch Ultra

Once iOS 17 is installed, do you have automatic access to Watch OS 10 via the Watch app?
 

Sal09

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The risk today is definitely a lot less than it used to be. But you can still lose settings (which can be a pain to redo) and (I believe) health data and streaks.
Totally agreed.

Setting is one thing that can me hectic but I always redo them when I get new iPhone every year lol.

Health data and streaks are all backed up individually on iCloud.
 

gwhizkids

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Question:

I have Apple Watch Ultra

Once iOS 17 is installed, do you have automatic access to Watch OS 10 via the Watch app?

Not sure. If you have access to iOS 17 then I’d say it’s quite likely. And to anticipate a possible question, you can continue to run WatchOS 9 while your phone is on iOS 17.

However, you cannot do it in reverse (run WatchOS 10 while on iOS 16). So if you install iOS 17 and revert back to iOS 16 for some reason, your Watch will be stranded and cannot sync to your phone.
 

gwhizkids

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Not sure. If you have access to iOS 17 then I’d say it’s quite likely. And to anticipate a possible question, you can continue to run WatchOS 9 while your phone is on iOS 17.

However, you cannot do it in reverse (run WatchOS 10 while on iOS 16). So if you install iOS 17 and revert back to iOS 16 for some reason, your Watch will be stranded and cannot sync to your phone.

This is a screenshot from the developer portal

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wolfe48

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Anyone having an issue with SMS messages? Did a restart, airplane mode, taking SIM out as well. It’s like this on my side but my partner can see them perfectly fine.. Been this way since update, it’s kinda annoying to get the text of it not sending…
I see the same behavior with SMS messages. Find a solution?
 

reycat

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Does anyone know how to go to another watchface on WatchOS 10? It seems the swipe gesture doesn't work anymore.
 
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