Whereas others can’t seem to pry their fixation from the rather benign home indicator at the bottom of their device(s), macOS-esque neuomorphic system icons is most all I’ve wanted for years now.
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iOS 17 Speculation Thread
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Unfortunately for you, Apple will be the one determining how much attention each of their devices will get.
I think, however, that we’ll be satisfied with what we get on iOS and iPadOS.
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New iOS 17 feature request! We need this. I’ve had enough of the bad internet allegations.
FaceTime, but it lets you know who has a bad connection.
FaceTime, but it lets you know who has a bad connection.
With the fact that it most probably is impossible to install the developer beta without paying for a developer account this year: when will the public beta be out?
Typically 4 weeks later…or so…but sometimes they claimed by the end of June as well. They will give an indication during the event.
One thing I wish they'd address is the placement of "Delete All" in the Mail App & the Photos App. In the Mail app, when in the trash folder or all mailboxes trash folder, if you want to delete all you select Edit, and then the Delete All option is in the bottom right. In the Photos app if you've deleted photos and would like to delete all, the option is in the bottom left. That's not consistent. A few times now I've accidentally selected Recover All instead of Delete All. This inconsistency goes back 7 years to iOS 9 (FB5400759).
I wish they'd allow for more editing of placement of items, like how the iTunes Store App does. Tap on More in the bottom corner and then Edit in the top corner, and then you can sub in any of the items to any of the locations. I believe this is the only first party app that's allowed you to basically place any of the items in any of the locations in the app. Which is great! (FB7761783)
Hopefully the Apple Mail App starts to behave more like a Secure Mail app and doesn't just dump you into the next unread email after you delete or move an Email. I hate that, and so do a lot of people in a work environment (FB10280669)..
And maybe in tvOS we'll be able to binge our stories again, getting the option to play the next episode automatically (FB5449910).
I know the Feedback app is a lifeless BlackHole, but whadayagonnado
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I wish they'd allow for more editing of placement of items, like how the iTunes Store App does. Tap on More in the bottom corner and then Edit in the top corner, and then you can sub in any of the items to any of the locations. I believe this is the only first party app that's allowed you to basically place any of the items in any of the locations in the app. Which is great! (FB7761783)
Hopefully the Apple Mail App starts to behave more like a Secure Mail app and doesn't just dump you into the next unread email after you delete or move an Email. I hate that, and so do a lot of people in a work environment (FB10280669)..
And maybe in tvOS we'll be able to binge our stories again, getting the option to play the next episode automatically (FB5449910).
I know the Feedback app is a lifeless BlackHole, but whadayagonnado
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I'm curious... now that profiles are gone. Plugging in our phone to the Mac might be the only way to receive the initial developer build... correct? Well... those with a developer account.
Usually Public Beta 1 lines up with Dev Beta 3 or 4, if I'm not mistaken. And also if I remember correctly, Dev Beta 1 goes for 3 weeks? It's usually "stable" for an initial beta release and then quickly goes downhill...
We'll soon see! I'd wager to guess that if you're signed in with your Dev Account on whatever release is current at the time (iOS 16.5.something), and you have beta updates enabled, you might see the option for both iOS 16.6 beta and iOS 17 beta. Seems like they're trying really hard to not have profiles for this at all.
Yeah, I could see Apple doing that. But I know some people tend to use two different Apple IDs... and there dev ID won't be on the phone they are using.
I have two Apple IDs, one Apple ID... I use strictly for AppStore purchases and subscriptions while another one I use for iCloud.
Then you won’t get the developer preview on the phone not signed in with the developer account.
This is not hard.
I suppose you could sign in on the other phone using the developer account, install the beta and then switch accounts again. But that sounds painful.
So, looking at the schedule for WWDC: the Platforms State of the Union is at 1:30pm - or 30 minutes earlier than in 2022. The Apple Design Awards are scheduled for 6:30pm, or 90 minutes later than last year.
We know that Apple has scheduled a "mystery" event for late afternoon. Given the amount of moving around of other events, it looks like there is a 2-hour block now available for this.
This will either be a full rollout "extra" keynote for the headset, or it will be a session (much like the Platforms SOTU) devoted only to the headset.
If this speculation bears out, we may get a full 2 hours of the keynote devoted to the traditional platforms and then an additional 2 hours devoted only to the headset. If this is true, I hope the latter is televised.
We know that Apple has scheduled a "mystery" event for late afternoon. Given the amount of moving around of other events, it looks like there is a 2-hour block now available for this.
This will either be a full rollout "extra" keynote for the headset, or it will be a session (much like the Platforms SOTU) devoted only to the headset.
If this speculation bears out, we may get a full 2 hours of the keynote devoted to the traditional platforms and then an additional 2 hours devoted only to the headset. If this is true, I hope the latter is televised.
I think this would be a great way to do this for everybody! 👍🏻. It gives them plenty of time to cover the existing platforms, which appeals to people like me, and it also gives them lots of time to cover the new platform, which appeals to the people who are excited about the headset! 👍🏻. It’s literally a win-win! The headset gets more time than if it were squished into the other time block, and iOS, iPadOS, and macOS get their fair share of time as well! 👍🏻. I’m really hoping they do it that way! 👍🏻
I think something like this would be a pretty cool addition to iPadOS, because then it could provide an on-screen way of accessing the keyboard shortcut menu for apps. I don’t know if they’d implement something like this this way, in fact, I rather doubt it, yet it’s still an intriguing concept. The reason I find this implementation of this concept doubtful is that it breaks a paradigm for iPhone users. Unless they also made a similar change on iOS, people used to swiping this side of the display for Notification Center are going to be confused when they get this instead. So unless Apple changes the method of accessing Notification Center on iOS as well, and adds a similar menu or feature to iOS, I don’t think chances are very high of an implementation that works this way. Now one thing I could see is some form of Dynamic Island menu that performs a function like this for iPadOS, because that wouldn’t interfere with established muscle memory on iOS. So it would be interesting to see if they decide to implement some form of a Dynamic Island style feature in iPadOS. If they do, I’m hoping it could take advantage of the greater screen real-estate to give us a menu similar to this. Perhaps the Dynamic Island could even expand into a File, Edit, View Menu Bar for iPadOS, and maybe this could be how they could bring dynamic Island to macOS as well? Interesting to consider.
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I feel like this won’t happen this year since the images they included of the new accessibility features in iOS 17 still showed the same icons. Unless they just purposely used the old icons in the images to surprise people during the official unveiling of iOS 17 lol
I wouldn't put it past them to do just that though 😂
But they’re not the same. Ultimately I’m hoping they allow full app icon customization, but I’d be happy if they just change the system app icons to the new neumorphic style of the Mac ones. 👍🏻. Full app icon customization would be the nicest option because it would give people like you who want something radically different the option to change them to something radically different, while people like me could just update them to the neumorphic versions! 👍🏻
I wouldn’t put it past them to do something like that. If they are planning on doing this, they probably wouldn’t want to spoil it before the keynote. And if I’m not mistaken, I’m pretty sure they’ve done that in the past before as well with some of their videos before WWDC to hide changes they planned on implementing. I’m not sure if they’re actually running these accessibility features on iOS 17 in the videos, or on a current build of iOS 16. Technically we know that at least part of the code exists for these features in iOS 16, so it wouldn’t necessarily be impossible. Also, it could be possible that these features aren’t even actually running on the phones at all in the videos, and are just being added digitally in editing. I’m thinking this may actually be likely, that they’re creating a visual mock-up of the feature, and digitally applying it to the device screens. But I could definitely be wrong about that, that’s just my guess.
The more I think about it, the more I think the headset will be "one more thing" at the end of the keynote, with a limited (say, 5-7 minute) quick demo. And then the wildly cheering audience will be encouraged to return at 4pm PT for an extended demo and presentation.
I hear you but I’ve hated the current icons since they debuted on iOS 7, applying some shading to a few of them and calling it a day after ten years would break our hearts. That reminders icon needs to be put into a wood chipper.
There’s so many options when it comes to icons, Apple could do anything, and they chose to go with the ugliest imaginable with iOS 7. And that of course has led to the glut of hideous third party app icons in the AppStore because so many developers just phoned it in and used clip art for an icon.
I don’t want to keep beating a dead horse but we are long overdo for a change, and with all the talented artists out there this can’t be too difficult for them? They even have some really nice ones in their ecosystem, so they definitely are capable of making good icons.
I’d be ok with a theme store, or just letting us customize them without using shortcuts, so it’s already possible, just for some reason we get penalized for doing it😹
Todays AR keynote animation example from UK Apple web site clearly shows the choice AR or object similar to the picture of AR Developers web page. I don't get it to work the same on a iPad as a my iPhone at all. Phone I see a choice of AR or Object. It still serves as an example that Apple will be showing off AR supported apps likely or the same applied to web content. Does it relate to rumored hardware, like a DTK supplied to developers, we'll see?
But it sure is nice to see this going forward from being on the sidelines for last few years.
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