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iOS 17 Speculation Thread

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Even if it doesn't show today, Apple only described the issue as "an issue that prevented a small number of devices from starting up". Likely most of us with dev access are currently running iOS 17.3 beta 2. (I am on 2 iPhones) As for a beta 3 or a beta 2 rebuild it's debatable. I doubt anyone experience boot issues with iPadOS 17.3 beta 2 also. (no back-tap).

Perhaps releasing the partial dev deployment of beta 2 still works for Apple's progress to capture crash information from devices.

It's still only 10:45 AM PST locally.
 
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Even if it doesn't show today, Apple only described the issue as "an issue that prevented a small number of devices from starting up". Likely most of us with dev access are currently running iOS 17.3 beta 2. (I am on 2 iPhones) As for a beta 3 or a beta 2 rebuild it's debatable. I doubt anyone experience boot issues with iPadOS 17.3 beta 2 also. (no back-tap).

Perhaps releasing the partial dev deployment of beta 2 still works for Apple's progress to capture crash information from devices.

It's still only 10:45 AM PST locally.
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Zollo already labeled it as very odd that it's not been rereleased. I have to think if it's next week they skip beta 2 and go to 3 to keep things on schedule.
 
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Abthevolfan92 said:
Zollo already labeled it as very odd that it's not been rereleased. I have to think if it's next week they skip beta 2 and go to 3 to keep things on schedule.
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IMHO I think Apple has withheld it because there are too many people that really shouldn't be accessing dev betas without backups and complaining if something happens IMHO.

In prior years of many past beta cycles we saw several instances of a dev beta never became a public beta because of some issue, and pubic testers just had to wait for the next release. :)
 
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Abthevolfan92 said:
are we expecting anything new this week. Is it going to be Beta 2,3 or RC?
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Well if going by last 2 years this short beta cycle only was 2 betas and a RC. So a lot of us are in sync with that using iOS 17.3 beta 2 that installed OK, so expecting a fixed beta 2 Monday for devs that encountered issues. As stated iOS was the only issue, MacRumors doesn’t even have any iPadOS beta threads that comment similar boot/update issues. Did anyone here have issues with iPadOS 17.3 beta 2?

So end of this week or next week some time the RC. So every other OS is running beta 2 fine it seems. IOS might see a RC2 maybe even before release.

Calling the fixed iOS 17.3 beta 2 as beta 3 will look funny with everything else only beta 2, but they still could do that possibly. Really Apple stalled on issuing a replacement by not issuing it last week. Weird way to start the year.
 
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Mark Germans take on 2024 and where iPhone/IOS ranks in their strategy

"Apple’s 2024 will be about moving beyond the iPhone."

www.bloomberg.com

Apple’s Biggest Challenges in 2024 Have Little to Do With the iPhone

Apple has a big year ahead for new products, but also faces challenges ranging from trying to catch up in AI to dealing with changes to the App Store. Also: Apple retail stores gear up for an imminent Vision Pro launch, plus what’s next in the Apple Watch sales ban saga.
www.bloomberg.com www.bloomberg.com

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  • There are already major concerns from Wall Street about iPhone sales this year — and those fears could be compounded in a few weeks if Apple reports that revenue in China came in below expectations.
  • The iPhone will take a back seat to Apple’s wearables business in 2024, with the Vision Pro, watch and AirPods getting more attention.
  • While the iPhone has been the center of the company’s product strategy for more than 15 years, the coming year will put the focus on...everything else.
  • While the iPhone 16 line won’t be a compelling upgrade over the current models when it is introduced in the fall, Apple’s marketers will figure out a way to make slightly bigger screens sound like the biggest innovation since the original iPhone.
  • But it will be the company’s wearables business — including the upcoming Vision Pro, AirPods and Apple Watch — that take center stage. The Vision Pro marks a new category for Apple, while the earbuds and smartwatch are poised to get some of their biggest upgrades ever.
  • The company’s current $179 earbuds — its third-generation, mid-tier model — have been somewhat of a dud with consumers.
  • biggest challenges
    • The company remains years behind the competition in generative artificial intelligence and risks missing out as Microsoft Corp., Amazon.com Inc., Samsung Electronics Co. and Alphabet Inc.’s Google actually ship new AI-centric hardware, software and services.
    • Its first new product category in nearly a decade, the Vision Pro headset, will show no signs of being a real revenue driver for at least the next year and more.
    • The iPad and Mac, two categories that have underperformed in recent quarters, must be revitalized.
    • Antitrust regulators will continue their scrutiny of the App Store, which will be forced to open up due to the Digital Markets Act in the European Union and possibly elsewhere.
  • But Apple has a solution: two new fourth-generation non-Pro models that have updated designs, redesigned cases and USB-C charging.
  • Apple also looks to breathe new life into the AirPods Max headphones. The cans don’t sell well enough for the company to invest in entirely new hardware or software features, but Apple is planning a model that trades in the Lightning charger for USB-C and potentially adds new colors.
  • In addition, Apple is readying a major software-based development: hearing aid functionality.
  • The AirPods momentum could continue in 2025, with the company planning an update to the AirPods Pro.
  • The Apple Watch is also due for a boost, with the company planning at least one model with a new look. More significantly, Apple is working on a pair of health features designed to take the smartwatch to new heights: hypertension and sleep apnea detection.
  • Vision Pro headset will certainly grab the spotlight in 2024 — even without bringing in much revenue. There are signs that the launch is approaching, with Apple inviting several hundred retail employees in January to learn how to use and sell the device.
  • The iPad is also due for major changes. The Pro version is getting revamped, and the Air will have the option of a larger screen. The iPad mini and entry-level model, meanwhile, are getting faster chips.
  • The Mac is due for big upgrades too, with the MacBook Air slated to gain the M3 chip soon. And new MacBook Pros, codenamed J614 and J616, are already in development.
  • The company plans to announce its offerings, as I’ve previously reported, at its Worldwide Developers Conference in June as part of iOS 18. The underlying work is being done on a large language model dubbed Ajax internally and the company has been testing it since early last year.
  • For developers, Apple is working on a new version of Xcode and other development tools that build in AI for code completion. And the company is building a new AI-based system to help AppleCare employees assist customers with troubleshooting.
  • Apple’s Vision Pro is fast approaching, and iOS 17.3 brings a new feature to deter iPhone thieves. If you need another indicator that the Vision Pro is coming sooner than later, look no further than the latest beta version of the device’s operating system, visionOS. The software’s build number now matches more closely with the numbers tied to production versions of operating systems. Though the new OS lacks major new features, the company has cleaned up bugs.
  • Long story short: I absolutely expect a release between the end of January and sometime in February. This isn’t a repeat of the “early 2015” Apple Watch that arrived at the end of April.
  • Use of Vision Pros by engineers at company buildings and even at home has skyrocketed, I’m told. My understanding is that they’re testing a more recent iteration of the operating system than the beta version.
 
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Aside from the boot issue with unknown origins for only iOS 17.3 beta 2, all the other four OS beta 2‘s are fine. Been running iOS 17.3 beta 2 without issues since Jan 3rd. Now it’s a question of just pushing some build out that even if it is RC that works for all iPhones dev testers. This is just a minor bug fix short cycle has nothing to do with Vision Pro launch.

As mentioned before I don’t know why Apple yanked iPadOS except it shares iOS code. There were no boot issue reports.
 
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Aside from the boot issue with unknown origins for only iOS 17.3 beta 2, all the other OS beta 2 are fine. Been running iOS 17.3 beta 2 without issues since Jan 3rd. Now it’s a question of just pushing some build out that even if it is RC that works. This is just a minor bug fix short cycle has nothing to do with Vision Pro launch.
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Zollo said it's not coming till the end of the month or early February so I doubt we get the RC this week
 
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Abthevolfan92 said:
Zollo said it's not coming till the end of the month or early February so I doubt we get the RC this week
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Aside for the internally tested stolen device protection and restored Apple Music playlists, iOS 17.3 has no SDK notes whatsoever. It’s not going to be four betas. We are already on beta 2 for all except the iOS seed being available again. Likely they are using different Darwin kernel version for that if stalled into this week. :)
 
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