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iOS 17 Speculation Thread
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Tim cook is heving fun with hide and seek tomorrowWhy not tomorrow?
There wasn’t a second RC here and as I said it happens occasionally but it’s the exception not the rule.
I am but also skeptical about what it might bring. Might not be much.
Unless you mean iOS 18. Then I am very excited.
Well Apple Classical partially worked v1.2 then a few hours later it was yanked, changed to v1.2.1 which disabled Carplay.
Either it’s just a Classical update in the future, or part of 17.4?
sounds like 17.4 is bringing the EU sideloading. So I guess that is a big feature
Even though they keep repeating EU only, with some other countries clamoring for that, it might be broader utilized?
Yeah, I have my doubts about the rumor that Apple will split the App Store into two separate versions with one being for the EU and the other for the rest of the world. That seems more expensive and difficult than just rolling it out globally and maybe losing a very small amount of revenue from some choosing to sideload some apps. And most who sideload will likely also use the App Store as well. I think the only reason Apple would limit app sideloading to the EU only is if there are security holes in the system that Apple hasn’t been able to adequately fill before the deadline, but I find that doubtful as well. I’m guessing that they’ll roll it out everywhere. This would be simpler than maintaining separate systems, and it would probably also reduce regulatory pressure on them. And I think that third-party payment support and RCS support coming globally could be a good sign for sideloading coming globally as well. I obviously don’t know for sure, but I think a global release makes the most sense. And either way, I’m definitely very skeptical about the idea that Apple would create and manage an entire separate App Store platform just for the EU, that seems pretty expensive and difficult. Hopefully we’ll see how Apple intends to roll out app sideloading soon! 👍🏻
Would even say usually it should be RC = final
RC2 and different builds for final are once in a while
It was
Apple Seeds Second iOS 17.1 Release Candidate for iPhone 15 Models
Apple today seeded a second release candidate (RC) version of iOS 17.1 to developers for testing purposes, with the software coming a few days after...
www.macrumors.com
The whole point of a Release Candidate is that it is just that: the firmware version that, absent any issues, is the version identified for release.
Yeah, I have my doubts about the rumor that Apple will split the App Store into two separate versions with one being for the EU and the other for the rest of the world. That seems more expensive and difficult than just rolling it out globally and maybe losing a very small amount of revenue from some choosing to sideload some apps. And most who sideload will likely also use the App Store as well. I think the only reason Apple would limit app sideloading to the EU only is if there are security holes in the system that Apple hasn’t been able to adequately fill before the deadline, but I find that doubtful as well. I’m guessing that they’ll roll it out everywhere. This would be simpler than maintaining separate systems, and it would probably also reduce regulatory pressure on them. And I think that third-party payment support and RCS support coming globally could be a good sign for sideloading coming globally as well. I obviously don’t know for sure, but I think a global release makes the most sense. And either way, I’m definitely very skeptical about the idea that Apple would create and manage an entire separate App Store platform just for the EU, that seems pretty expensive and difficult. Hopefully we’ll see how Apple intends to roll out app sideloading soon!
Have to disagree. I would be shocked if this happened. I think Apple will avoid doing this in any jurisdiction in which it is not required to do this. There are some very legitimate security reasons for not wanting to allow this.
I think we might get a new "App Store" app from Apple similar to TestFlight where you can manage everything "third party" related. That's just my guess.
That may be, maybe they will limit sideloading to the EU. But I think splitting the App Store into two separate platforms doesn’t make any sense. I doubt they’ll go about it that way, unless they’re adding something similar to TestFlight as @gank41 said. And I also think that if Apple does limit sideloading to the EU, it would be due to security concerns, not worries about revenue loss. 👍🏻
Agree…the app store is an “app”…and despite it being a PITA, that’s all it really is. Apple will have one for the EU and one for the rest of the world. Limiting apps to regions has been a thing since apps were invented.
This is an easy one for Apple to accomplish.
But that “app” also has a review process, rules, uses a single platform which costs quite a bit to maintain, etc. If Apple were to split the App Store into two separate platforms, they’d have to have a whole additional review process they’d have to maintain with a separate review team, a whole separate software to manage, etc. all just for one region of the world. It would be quite a lot of cost and effort to go to rather than just adding a setting buried in the Settings app that you can toggle on with a bunch of popup warnings. I think if Apple were to limit sideloading to the EU, the least likely and most convoluted way to do so would be splitting the App Store into two entirely separate platforms just to appease one region.
I rather see Apple utilize external 3rd party secure payment web site workaround for licensing apps for redeem code, and allow install from App Store with licensing redeem code. That way Apple could track costs and allow only installation from App Store. The thought of an another separate AppStore process for iOS/iPadOS seems overly complicated given so many developers, duplicate reviewing, documentation, dev information, and OS security. Other then that hopefully we learn more today or tomorrow with 17.4 beta seed.