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Realityck

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And what do you base this opinion on?

Just described as available in March.

Are people basing this on the following rumor:

Although it’s appealing the EU’s decision, Apple will still need to comply with the rules by March 6th while its appeal is processed, Bloomberg previously reported.
 
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gwhizkids

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Just described as available in March.

Are people basing this on the following rumor:

Right now, assuming a 2 week (likely 12 day) interval between beta 1 and 2 followed by 1 week release intervals, that works out to 4 betas + a release candidate before a public release on most likely March 4. I don’t see any reason why this would need to be pushed out any farther than that.

In this case, the European Union has set a deadline and it is exceedingly unlikely that Apple is going to thumb their nose at that and risk a large fine by missing that deadline by two weeks. They certainly aren’t going to do so because their beta schedule doesn’t meet the expectations of some poster on MacRumors forums.


Too many posters on this site rely on feelings and emotions when making predictions about the timing of future releases.

Stick with data. You won’t be sorry.
 

Realityck

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Right now, assuming a 2 week (likely 12 day) interval between beta 1 and 2 followed by 1 week release intervals, that works out to 4 betas + a release candidate before a public release on most likely March 4. I don’t see any reason why this would need to be pushed out any farther than that.
The only thought to go with that is devs have adequate time to learn, implement these new options available today. ;)
 

Abthevolfan92

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Right now, assuming a 2 week (likely 12 day) interval between beta 1 and 2 followed by 1 week release intervals, that works out to 4 betas + a release candidate before a public release on most likely March 4. I don’t see any reason why this would need to be pushed out any farther than that.

In this case, the European Union has set a deadline and it is exceedingly unlikely that Apple is going to thumb their nose at that and risk a large fine by missing that deadline by two weeks. They certainly aren’t going to do so because their beta schedule doesn’t meet the expectations of some poster on MacRumors forums.


Too many posters on this site rely on feelings and emotions when making predictions about the timing of future releases.

Stick with data. You won’t be sorry.
well then why was 16.4 released on the 27th last year? usually they try to keep their releases on the same timeline
 

17fox

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well then why was 16.4 released on the 27th last year? usually they try to keep their releases on the same timeline
One of the reasons is that they released the first beta of 16.4 almost a month late (around mid-February) when compared to the first beta of 17.4. Therefore, the schedule for the following beta and public releases also shifted.
Of course, there are likely even more reasons why they did it. As mentioned above by one of the forum users - stick with data. This year we are likely to get 17.4 on the 4th/5th of March.
 
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Realityck

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One of the reasons is that they released the first beta of 16.4 almost a month late (around mid-February) when compared to the first beta of 17.4. Therefore, the schedule for the following beta and public releases also shifted.
Of course, there are likely even more reasons why they did it. As mentioned above by one of the forum users - stick with data. This year we are likely to get 17.4 on the 4th/5th of March.
17.4 appears to be a major update shows next gen Carplay, gamer mode, some association with new upcoming iPad design. Apple says devs can now submit apps for game streaming services. That means Xbox Game Pass streaming and GeForce Now, for example, will no longer need to be accessed through frustrating progressive web apps. Other changes are podcast transcription and Siri translation changes so you can work with multiple languages messages you receive.


Note the size of the installer it was 6.42 Gb, and it was build 21e5184i. Note the higher end letter at the start. So we can guess this beta cycle might be at least 5 betas. This is based on additional features discovered after the side loading which by itself is a major change, along with being able to use different web browsers (non WebKit engines in EU).
 
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Realityck

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^ The option for worldwide streaming game services in iOS/IPadOS 17.4 beta also was because of a like Vision Pro/Vision OS beta cycle needing not to be constrained to only Apple Arcade vs Mac with several streaming services availability. We wouldn't want to hurt the VP sales would we? ;)
 

gwhizkids

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I love headlines like this one!

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StumpyBloke

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Realityck

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bigjnyc

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The same crap is peddled out every single year isn’t it? And each year it is just another iterative upgrade full of bugs!
Yup, every iphone is the "Best iphone yet" and every iOS release is the "Best release so far" But in reality its tiny incremental changes that Apple keeps feeding us to keep us on the hamster wheel.
 
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17fox

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Sorry to burst any bubbles, but...

...It might also just come in at 10 gigs, THE BIGGEST SOFTWARE UPDATE in iPhones history! and still be true to headline 🤣😆
Alternative idea. It might not only come at 10 gigs, but also drop support for iPhones starting from Xs to 13 Series and be the biggest device support drop in iPhone history🤣
 
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