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Realityck

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If you update from 17.3.1, it is around 1.8 GB incremental update.
If you update from 17.4 RC, it is a full replacement, so the complete 6.x GB.
I know with the MacOS 14.4 RC seed, they continued to optimally select Safari and Darwin kernel versions with beta 5 to RC. Usually those versions are also part of the iOS public seed. So yeah depending on whats the final build encompasses you can have a much smaller update, or a full installer. Especially dependent on Darwin version changes.
 
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mattburley7

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maybe we will see the other updates today or no later then friday
would think the new macbook air ships with macOS 14.4 no?
 

gwhizkids

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I don’t think we’ll see any new betas until all other platforms have released either this week or at the start of next week.

I was going to add that that was why I said “possibly” rather than “probably “ but had to take a call.

I agree that later is more likely.
 

adrianlondon

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Nov 28, 2013
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Usually, the first beta release of a new "point" release (e.g. from 17.4 yo 17.5) is forked from one of the previous betas, not the RC or public version.

In other words, 17.5 b1 is likely to be based on one of the 17.4 betas.
 

Realityck

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17.5 beta 1 Thursday?
Its possible but perhaps Apple will just instead wait to next Tuesday 12th for doing the new beta's all at the same time again after releasing tvOS 17.4, MacOS 14.4, WatchOS 10.4, VisionOS 1.1 on Monday 11th.

There are some features likely to be added with 17.5 that weren't able to do because of all that EU requirements.
 
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