I agree, people tend to forget about 16.6 betas going on simultaneously.
I guess it will be just a day difference between iOS 16 and iOS 17 betas, though.
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iOS 17 Speculation Thread
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I agree, people tend to forget about 16.6 betas going on simultaneously.
I guess it will be just a day difference between iOS 16 and iOS 17 betas, though.
Who's forgetting, we are just not posting about iOS 16.6 speculation in the iOS 17 speculation thread. You would think that be self evident.
iOS 16 Speculation Thread
It’s not though. I posted 3 examples from the last 4 years alone and I found at least 2 more which I didn’t bother to mention because I thought the evidence presented would suffice. Given the ever increasing number of point releases for each iteration of iOS it’s statistically likely to become even more common in the future.
You spoke in absolute terms. You said there’s always a day in between a holiday and a release which clearly isn’t true. All I’m suggesting is that having an less rigid world view might be more beneficial when discussing a subject for which none of us can truly know the answer
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So many betas/holidays in the last 4 years and you could only find a handful of instances which are more like anomalies than a pattern.It’s not though. I posted 3 examples from the last 4 years alone and I found at least 2 more which I didn’t bother to mention because I thought the evidence presented would suffice. Given the ever increasing number of point releases for each iteration of iOS it’s statistically likely to become even more common in the future.
You spoke in absolute terms. You said there’s always a day in between a holiday and a release which clearly isn’t true. All I’m suggesting is that having an less rigid world view might be more beneficial when discussing a subject for which none of us can truly know the answer
I go with the odds and it’s a speculation thread and I’m speculating. It’s not the end of the world if I miss.
Judging by local weather conditions with temps almost 3 digits Fahrenheit yesterday in Cupertino. Not very many are going to be rushing to work after the July 4th after multiple hot days of guzzling beer. Today 9AM it is already 77 degree F, hardly any cars on the road, people trying to enjoy the day before stuck inside again. So the day after the 4th, the odds are not favoring that at all.
Note Mark Gurman has suggested in todays newsletter that the company’s Wearables, Home and Accessories category will outpace both the iPad and Mac in sales growth, so expect to see more of those delayed features related to future AirPod Pro features involving hearing health and body-temperature.
So there are more features coming for iOS 17 not yet announced. I think its reasonably safe to say this years iOS 17 evolution will have many beta cycle increments.
15.6 beta 4 dropped last July 5th.
Apple releases iOS 15.6 beta 5 to developers - 9to5Mac
Apple is releasing iOS 15.6 beta 5 to developers a week after its fourth beta. This update comes two weeks...9to5mac.com
There is nothing special about the day after a holiday. There have been others, here’s a couple more:
15.4 Beta 4 released February 22 2022, the day after Presidents Day
Apple releases iOS 15.4 beta 4 and more to developers and public beta users - 9to5Mac
One week after releasing the third beta to developers, Apple is now rolling out iOS 15.4 beta 4 to developers...
12.1.3 Released January 22 2019 the day after MLK day.
Apple Releasing iOS 12.1.3 With Bug Fixes for HomePod, iPad Pro, CarPlay, Messages and More Today
Apple will today release iOS 12.1.3, the fifth update to the iOS 12 operating system since its September launch. iOS 12.1.3 is a minor update that follows iOS 12.1.2 (iPhone only), released back in December, and iOS 12.1.1, also released in December. The iOS 12.1.3 update will be available on...www.macrumors.com
Could be these days aren’t observed by Apple, but it shows that it can’t just be said Apple doesn’t release after a holiday
The ‘rules’ for x.0 betas are different to x.x betas. That makes your examples pretty irrelevant.
I’m going to go with Wednesday. Apple always knows when things will be released ahead of time. Whatever build we see this week has been done and ready for us already. Doesn’t have to be a day later because a holiday is on a Tuesday…
I’m going to postulate that there is even a 10-20% chance we see the next beta today. The little zero day thing with the X.x.1 releases a few weeks ago probably set Apple back by a day or so. And with the 4th falling on a Tuesday, that causes them to lose yet another day this week (at a minimum).
I’m sticking with beta 3 Thursday, that’s my 60% chance feeling, with Wednesday and Friday being 20% each in my guess.
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Happy Pre-4th of July. I don't think we are getting anything today.
I'm going to raise the stakes! I have a feeling we are getting iOS 17 Beta 3 on Thursday - 90% sure. Learning towards Wednesday only 10%. Regardless of the outcome, we are getting a new beta. I hope everyone is going to have a great week. Let's get it! 🔥
Happy Pre-4th of July. I don't think we are getting anything today.
I'm going to raise the stakes! I have a feeling we are getting iOS 17 Beta 3 on Thursday - 90% sure. Learning towards Wednesday only 10%. Regardless of the outcome, we are getting a new beta. I hope everyone is going to have a great week. Let's get it! 🔥
I’ll join the percentage game:
Today - 10% (I can dream!)
Wednesday - 20%
Thursday - 70%
Happy 4th!!
Today - 10% (I can dream!)
Wednesday - 20%
Thursday - 70%
Happy 4th!!
I still feel like others highest probability is Thursday the 6th. A lot of Cupertino campus employees are likely got Monday off for a long weekend after the heat we had along with July 4th falling on a Tuesday. The 5th there is a slight chance but less likely. Either way beta 3 is coming this week.
July 6, 2022 was a Wednesday after the holiday was a Monday. I'm still going with Wednesday this year, too.
Slim to none that it’ll be today.
There was a beta or a public release a few years ago that they released right before a holiday and it turned out to be a mess with devices unable to connect to cellular or something. So it makes sense to release it after a holiday.
Good morning my dear friend. I hope you are right, but I also hope that our family at Apple is being given an important time off with the holiday in this week. If I don’t get to tell you, I hope that you have a great 4th🇺🇸
Is it just me, or has the beta option tab disappeared from the Software Update page for both iOS and watchOS?
(With iOS 17 beta 2 and watchOS 10 beta 2 installed)
UPDATE: By GMT8 01:32AM
It's back but still unstable, no new beta tho (unlikely to see one today), keep waiting!
(With iOS 17 beta 2 and watchOS 10 beta 2 installed)
UPDATE: By GMT8 01:32AM
It's back but still unstable, no new beta tho (unlikely to see one today), keep waiting!
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Public beta site has been updated for the new OS's with coming soon so I'd say that's definitely coming this week.