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Tagbert

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I meant the App Library page which appears on swiping from right to left.
you show/hide it by swiping past your desktop. A lot of features are like that. The notifications screen is shown by swiping to past the first desktop screen. I don't think I understand the antipathy to that feature. I would like it be be better organized or customizable but it doesn't really get in the way of anything and is sort of like that closet that you stuff things into when guests arrive.
 

Kal Madda

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Yesterday I read this, and I’ve been thinking about it. I like the current Control Center, but I can think of several ways that it could be improved. For starters, it would be nice if the design language of the Control Center on MacOS and iPadOS/iOS merged, because currently they’re different in several ways from each other. So unifying the Mac Control Center and iOS/iPadOS Control Center would be really nice. It would also be nice if for things like the WiFi toggle, it also showed the name of the network it’s connected to without having to hold press the toggle. Another thing that could be useful would be the ability to add toggles for shortcuts from the Shortcuts app. This could be very useful. Also it would be nice if there were an API open and available for third party apps to be able to shortcuts to Control Center. These could serve the same functions as custom items added to the Menu Bar on MacOS, for example, the OneDrive app could add a OneDrive icon in the Control Center where you can tap it and it shows you a status menu of all the files it’s recently synced, and a progress bar to show the progress of any current uploads. This would be extremely useful. In fact, come to think of it, I almost wonder if that’s a reason why they added Control Center to macOS so that they could work out a system like that? 🤔. That would be a very very useful feature, and it would elevate the functionality of iPadOS’s Status Bar to be close to that of the macOS Menu Bar without really changing any established interaction paradigms in iPadOS and iOS. Another thing I’m hoping for in iPadOS eventually is an onscreen way to access the “File, Edit, View” menu for apps. It’s very convenient with a keyboard attached, but then when I remove my keyboard, it’s no longer available because it requires a hold press on the Command Key of the keyboard. I don’t know if this should be added as an icon in the left corner of the Status Bar that when pressed or swiped opens that Menu, or if it should be an option in Control Center. Either way, eventually it would be nice if something like that happened, because we already have the makings of a macOS Menu Bar, they just need to be refined and enhanced in a way that makes sense on the iPad. My biggest hope for the new Control Center is “Control Center Applets” like I described earlier, because that could be such a big improvement. I really like the macOS Menu Bar applets, and I think the Control Center could be a natural way to bring that functionality to iOS and iPadOS!
 

LockOn2B

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WE ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS!!!

When do you begin, or have you already started working at Apple? This reminds us of one of those well done jailbreak tweaks, we hope to see something exactly like this in iOS 17!

Have a great evening, our friend.
Sorry I saw this just now. Oh you are too kind. Thank you for your words. I’m honestly hoping someone at Apple sees all the messages in this thread. Great evening to you too. 😄
 
This is a neat concept. 👍🏻👎🏻?

Settings app Quick actions and shortcuts to the most used settings!

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JulianL

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One beneath-the-hood (for users, maybe also invisible for app developers depending on how it’s able to be implemented) that I would love to see is Apple extending the Pro down-to-1Hz screen refresh capability to third party apps. As I understand it based on stuff I have read here dropping the screen refresh rate down to 1Hz is reserved for the AOD. For those of us who look at a lot of static screen conten, e.g. I typically spend at least 2 hours a day reading ebooks in Kindle and a lot more than that if I’m travelling or on holiday, it could deliver a massive improvement to battery life if apps like Kindle could drop the refresh rate right down when They are not doing anything fancy like a page-turn. And it wouldn’t just be e-readers, at least for me quite a lot of my screen-on time is looking at mostly static content (news articles, looking up and trying to absorb some relatively complex information in Safari or Wikipedia, or even just reading a WhatsApp or iMessage plus the pause as I decide on my reply.

Would it be a totally invisible change? I suppose maybe some users might see (and I bet in some cases imagine) flicker so a global setting to disable the ability of 3rd party apps to drop the rate below 60Hz might be a good idea but beyond that at worst it would be a new API to allow third party developers to explicitly set the refresh rate and it might be possible for iOS to monitor how often the screen is being refreshed and intelligently switch refresh rates itself which would have the benefit of users not having to rely on app developers supporting optimised refresh rates. Whatever way it is done though I would love the power savings that it could give me if all of my hours of ebook reading were almost as if the device was still in standby all that time (I run in dark mode so the OLED screen has very few pixels active when displaying a page of text).
 
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My wants for 17 is quick themeing. They gave us the ability to change icons in a back handed kind of way. Just allow theme packs for iOS. It's time. People want to make their phone their own. Also the app dock/drawer or whatever it's called, please stop making it fluid. My app catagories and folders keep moving around so I have to always hunt for apps instead of them being in the same spot consistently. That is all I want really.
 

Thedarwin

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It's a safe bet that the obligation imposed by Europe to open third-party stores for applications will push Apple to react against its habits by increasingly facilitating access to PWA Apps.
I'm surprised no one is talking about it.

It is likely that by facilitating access to these technologies (opening features from the manifest, facilitating the download of native PWA apps from safari with a dedicated prompt, etc.) it will push the devs to do more development in this direction (easier). It could greatly reduce native app development and uncontrolled distribution and thus ensure better security by remaining in the webkit containment controlled by Apple.

I would therefore not be surprised to see Apple make a big U-turn by bringing a lot of new features in this direction. They have also recently made a nice improvement on 16.4 with the arrival of notifications in PWA.

What do you think ?
 
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It's a safe bet that the obligation imposed by Europe to open third-party stores for applications will push Apple to react against its habits by increasingly facilitating access to PWA Apps.
I'm surprised no one is talking about it.

It is likely that by facilitating access to these technologies (opening features from the manifest, facilitating the download of native PWA apps from safari with a dedicated prompt, etc.) it will push the devs to do more development in this direction (easier). It could greatly reduce native app development and uncontrolled distribution and thus ensure better security by remaining in the webkit containment controlled by Apple.

I would therefore not be surprised to see Apple make a big U-turn by bringing a lot of new features in this direction. They have also recently made a nice improvement on 16.4 with the arrival of notifications in PWA.

What do you think ?
That's a fair assumption, however I think apple will be apple and only implement changes in the countries affected by the law.
 

Cunir

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I'd just like a couple of simple things: to be able to arrange two windows half-and-half, but without having to go full screen. I still want the menu bar showing.
And to be able to reset my gamecenter stats, or delete a load of old games off it that I no longer play.
 
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Tagbert

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I'd just like a couple of simple things: to be able to arrange two windows half-and-half, but without having to go full screen. I still want the menu bar showing.
And to be able to reset my gamecenter stats, or delete a load of old games off it that I no longer play.
I use a window manager like Rectangle or BetterSnapTool to do that. They are much more flexible for different kinds of layout and don’t use that stupid full screen trick like the Apple solution. (I hate full screen mode)
 

Kal Madda

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I use a window manager like Rectangle or BetterSnapTool to do that. They are much more flexible for different kinds of layout and don’t use that stupid full screen trick like the Apple solution. (I hate full screen mode)
That works for macOS, but this thread is for speculation about iOS 17, and those apps aren’t available on iOS. Maybe iOS 17 will be able to support apps like that? 🤷🏼‍♂️
 

Tagbert

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That works for macOS, but this thread is for speculation about iOS 17, and those apps aren’t available on iOS. Maybe iOS 17 will be able to support apps like that? 🤷🏼‍♂️
Ah, got lost in which thread is which. I was thrown off by mention of seeing the menu bar.

I do wish that iOS would allow a vertically spilt screen for two apps at once
 

Realityck

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From April 16th Mark Gurman newsletter (speculative)


Altogether, the company is planning to unveil:
The updated versions of iOS and iPadOS aren’t likely to offer major new features — unlike last year’s software, which ushered in a new lock screen. But they should satisfy a checklist of user requests with more minor improvements. I’m also not expecting major macOS or tvOS changes. The new Apple Watch operating system, however, will bring bigger enhancements, including an updated interface.

Moreover, the WWDC announcements should set the stage for hardware releases coming later:

  • The watchOS update will tell you most of what you need to know about the Apple Watch in 2023. That’s because hardware changes are expected to be minimal, so the operating system upgrade will be the focus.
  • Apple’s iPadOS 17 will lay the software groundwork for revamped iPad Pro models coming next year with OLED displays.
  • And iOS 17 will cause some noise beyond WWDC itself. Apple is working to overhaul the software to open up the iPhone to sideloading — the downloading of apps outside of its official store — to comply with new European regulations by next year.
 

gank41

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Apple’s iPadOS 17 will lay the software groundwork for revamped iPad Pro models coming next year with OLED displays.
So, in other words, still no new changes to bring iPadOS up to speed with all the changes to iOS. And with the varying rumors about which models are supported, sounds like yet another very boring year for iPads, only to be told wait ‘till next year. And I’m sure that’s when they’ll cut off some of the older iPads.
 
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