I’m really stoked for iPadOS 17! 👍🏻. It’s so exciting that we already know that Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro are coming to the iPad, and I think that the decision to announce it early could be due to WWDC being packed. I’m hoping that iPadOS 17 will bring some refinements to Stage Manager such as a “clamshell” mode. Also, some improvements to the Files app would be nice. The Files app does just about everything it needs to right now, but I think it would be nice to have a proper “eject” option for external drives, perhaps when you right-click or long-press them in Files. Also, I’m wondering if while they’ve been developing FCP and LP for iPadOS, if they might have also been working on tools to port macOS apps over to iPadOS more automatically. Kind of like a Catalyst 2.0, which would allow Mac developers to easily port their apps to the iPad. I think Apple is definitely aiming for a unified software ecosystem, and this could help to accomplish that. I think iPadOS 16 put a lot of the things for macOS apps to work on iPadOS in place: multi-windowing, DriverKit support, VRAM, etc. I think Apple’s software story is becoming very clear, create one app that can run on all of their platforms, with automatic adjustments that allow the apps to take advantage of each platform’s unique functionality. I highly doubt that any serious developer at this point would make a macOS exclusive app now that it’s so easy to make one app that can hit the Mac and the iPad. I also think that Apple is working on making macOS more like a “Pro” version of iOS. At some point I think it will essentially be iOS with more system permissions and legacy bits bolted on. This makes a lot of sense, because currently every other Apple platform is based on iOS due to it’s flexibility. I think the future of software for Apple is one unified software ecosystem. You code an app, and it “just works” on every Apple platform with minimal to no effort required. I think we’re already very close to that future, and now we need to see if legacy Mac software will make the port over or not. I think that if Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro can port over to iPadOS, then plenty of other legacy software can as well. I think Apple is going to try to make it so that all apps that optimize for M1 and don’t required Rosetta to run will be able to take advantage of this unified ecosystem, but if some legacy software never bothers with optimization for the M-series chips, then eventually when Rosetta is discontinued, these apps will likely just die out.
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I’m really intrigued by the possibility of a new Control Center. I’m hoping they’ll create a new set of APIs for third-party apps to leverage for the Control Center as well. Something like Control Center Apps. Control Center Apps would be similar to macOS Menu Bar Apps, with the ability to serve as quick toggles for apps running in the background. They could be used to control Cloud-sync functionality in cloud storage apps, and several other applications. Also, with rumors of interactive widgets, perhaps these Control Center apps could even use similar APIs. On macOS, this could be implemented by the ability to move macOS Menu Bar apps into Control Center. This would make the two platforms more similar, and easier to transition between. It would be a win-win for both platforms, for iOS and iPadOS, it would add the awesomeness of Menu Bar apps in the form of Control Center apps, while on macOS it would allow users to clean up their Menu Bar. And, as said before, it would create greater familiarity between the two platforms.
Thank you, that tip is much appreciated. I’ll give it a go - and reserve my right to still bear a grudge against any app developer not offering the explicit light/dark/sys-default options in its settings 😀
IMHO they should just find a better way to manage the 'back' gesture. It's always different, not a universal system control as in Android, and it's often in the upper part of the screen, making it difficult to reach one-hand or on Max models. They should also fix the intentional 'lag' when touching things super fast. iOS let you give it a new command, sometimes, only when the fancy animation has finished. Pretty annoying. It doesn't happen on Android One UI 5.1. You can compulsively touch everywhere and it gets done even during animations. That said, I also hope they make widgets interactive, better home screen management with free apps positioning, and more.
You completely ignored the fact that iOS/IPadOS is locked down and MacOS is not allowing third parties to sell software via web sites as well as full cloud access for software. So comparing a full Unix to iOS/IPadOS is crazy if all your are interested in is writing programs once for the differences between the two. This is just posturing for a preference for IOS/IpadOS programming IMHO instead of understanding the consequences of two very different security examples.
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A. iOS and iPadOS are opening up in certain ways, and developer tools already exist to bridge some of the differences between the two automatically. B. macOS is NOT a full Linux, and it will likely become a lot more like iPadOS and iOS with legacy bits bolted on IMHO. It’s already starting to happen in certain ways. This would also make practical sense for Apple, because then they have one base code that all of their platforms run on, with certain refinements for the hardware platform they’re running on. I think this is pretty much inevitable, and I think it’s already happening in certain ways. And my opinion isn’t “posturing”, it’s my opinion. If you disagree, then that’s okay. Personally, I think it makes sense to make one app that can run on all of Apple’s platforms, attract more users, and make more money, than making an app that’s exclusive to only macOS, and hence attracts less users and makes less money. Even those who made macOS-exclusive software have come to realize they can be more profitable by taping into iOS and iPadOS, and so they develop a new mobile version. Why not just start with something that supports them all? Perhaps I was a bit harsh in saying I don’t think any “serious” developer would do x, that’s a broad-brush statement that errs in that it assumes that any “serious” developers primary objective is to hit as many platforms as possible. But personally, I do think it makes sense to put in one development cost into an app that can run on all of them, instead of releasing a macOS-exclusive software just to figure out you want to expand to iOS and iPadOS, and then have to write a new version for those. That’s just my opinion.
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Hard to believe! But it’s about to get real..
Only 3 weeks! I’m so stoked! 👍🏻
Ok I tried and tried but I just can’t do it anymore…
You’ll have to freeze me too, thaw me out in 20 days!!!!
I feel they have to bring the level of customization from the lock screen to the homescreen, at least.
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I’m still praying for Split screen on iPhone Every year
I was thinking that in 10 days we’ll be in June, so roughly two weeks remaining!! It’s so close! And I still feel like it’s months away, interesting 🤔
Those icons are gorgeous. And even tho I prefer the Files icon over the Finder one, those neumorphic icons are just great, and I wish Apple put them on the upcoming operating system.
Definitely. At least allowing us to replace icons without the need of using shortcuts.
I would have replied to you “what a nonsense” if we were in 2017. But in 2023 I think it would be a great idea to give users the option of using the top half of the screen for an app, and the bottom half for another. Obviously the user could enable or disable this multitasking from settings.
That part might not be a sure thing. You still can't turn off "multi-tasking" on an iPad. it is much too easy for my elder parents to accidentally drag a window and put things side by side or in slide over and not know how to get out of it. I used to keep that turned off on their iPads but when they redid the multi-tasking a couple of years ago, the got rid of the option to turn it off.
Then, maybe that’s the reason Apple is implementing the new Accessibility UI on iOS 17, which will come in handy for people like our parents. But still, I think there should be a toggle. We’ll see.
I agree, I’m really hoping for the macOS neumorphic app icons on iOS and iPadOS 17. Though I don’t think Files needs the smiley face Finder icon. I understand that the smiley face icon has nostalgia for long-term MacOS users, but honestly, I’ve never understood why a file management app has a smiley face for the icon. The Files app’s folder icon is far more intuitive in my opinion, and at times I wonder if it might not be better to use that or a similar icon for Finder as well. But I definitely am hoping for the neumorphic icons! 👍🏻
For iPadOS 17 I’m really hoping for some refinements to Stage Manager such as a “clamshell mode” that allows the external monitor to work without the iPad display powered on, and the ability to use Control Center on the external monitor instead of it appearing on the iPad’s display. Other than that, I’m pretty happy with how Stage Manager currently works. I also can’t help but be obsessed about the idea of what I call “Control Center Apps”. These would replace macOS Menu Bar apps, and would work on macOS, iPadOS, and iOS. Instead of little applets populating the Menu Bar, they would populate a space within Control Center. On macOS they could still be used on the Menu Bar if the user preferred to use them that way, or they could all be neatly pulled into Control Center. They would generally have the same capabilities as Menu Bar apps, only they would all use a standard API that would be compatible with iOS and iPadOS. Perhaps existing ones could even be ported over to this new format. This would unlock half of the macOS Menu Bar’s functionality on iPadOS and iOS as well. And on iPadOS, the other File, Edit menu half already exists with a keyboard shortcut, though I’d really like this to be accessible without the keyboard shortcut as well.
I guess it's still down to Apple showing tab view exploded as multiple small representations such as for Safari example. Then you compare iPadOS allowance for split screens before the Pro models such as with Air or Mini. You have the increased resolution but they don't provide really any more split screen options at all. It really comes down to Apple has judged each OS implementation as thats it based on screen size of devices, want something else, use a larger Apple device as far as split screen. This after the IOS14/15/16 changes where it was suggested all the time.
It takes a couple of steps but you can do it natively.
- Open a new note in Notes
- Touch the Camera icon and then choose Scan Docments.
- Scan one or more pages and then touch Done.
- Share to Print.
- When you see the preview use two fingers to zoom into the preview.
- Touch the “v” icon on the upper right and choose Save to Files.
- When you save the file, it will be a PDF.
You can also do it from the Files App. Enter the Files App, Explore, and tap the three dots in a circle icon. There, from that menu, you can select “scan documents” and it will save it as a PDF on the Files app, or even in iCloud directly, whichever is on screen in that moment.
I didn’t know this feature, but someone on this forum shared it and I learned it.
Omg thank you! Even Apple’s support doc doesn’t have that. They suggest using Notes.