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gwhizkids

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how are we not sure the public release will be on the date of the apple event
We are never sure. But that has not been done before. Per ThinkyBits, the shortest time between the RC and the public release date was iOS 14 in 2020 at 1 day. And that probably had something to do with the pandemic.

Developers need time from when they can download the RC version of xCode to get their apps ready for submission to the app store. The best want their apps ready as soon as the new iOS launches. One day is not enough time to do that for most and many developers were very unhappy that Apple did that to them on iOS 14. So Apple is not likely to do this again absent very extenuating circumstances.
 

Sunsster1988

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Maybe it’s the first time that I don’t want to get a new beta today.

Everything works as expected, no new features expected in this cycle, so… I think I’m ok 😀
In iOS 17.1 apple should redesign the cc for that update because its been the sccds (same control centre different software).
 

Ansath

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In iOS 17.1 apple should redesign the cc for that update because its been the sccds (same control centre different software).
They shouldn’t redesign it for the sake of change. It should only be done if it’s going to improve things. Have you not heard the saying ‘if ain’t ain’t broke, don’t try and fix it’? lol.
 
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Ansath

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iOS RC after event

MacOS RC next day or Thursday?
MacOS releases later, late October based on last year. So, RC probably not until first or second week of October.

I think it will still be 2 weeks between betas, so maybe no new beta for MacOS until next week, as last one came last week.

Edit: looking at last year, didn’t go weekly until after beta 8 which came out 20th September, with Beta 9 on 27th September, with Beta 11 being the last one before RC.
 
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Ansath

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I think we See a lot new dynamic Island stuff when iOS 17 is released.

We’ve seen Shazam have new animation for Dynamic Island, but that’s about it, I think. So, not a lot.

They’re not adding any more in to iOS 17 other than what we’ve seen in the betas so far.
 
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Sunsster1988

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MacOS releases later, late October based on last year. So, RC probably not until first or second week of October.

I think it will still be 2 weeks between betas, so maybe no new beta for MacOS until next week, as last one came last week.

Edit: looking at last year, didn’t go weekly until after beta 8 which came out 20th September, with Beta 9 on 27th September, with Beta 11 being the last one before RC.
You're living in the past because the beta was weekly when iOS 17 beta 5 came out. So your wrong
 

upandown

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I agree with the probability of no new beta until the RC next week. However something I haven’t seen mentioned is the possibility of a re-release beta 8. We saw many re-releases this season to the point that we’ve had a beta almost every week for the later half. However with everything being so stable, I’d say low chance.
 

sbailey4

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Dec 5, 2011
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If it‘s the same build, you wont get any RC build pushed out. When B8 turns out to be the stable release, update servers push a config down to devices that turns off any beta logging and flags the build as stable removing beta build number parts.

It‘s what happened with 13b8 being RC.

Beta logging is not deleted as a functionality when you go stable, it‘s merely disabled and always exists on your device.
Dont think b8 was RC. In my list I have:

iOS 13.0 release (Thursday 9-19-19)
17A577

iOS 13.0 GM (Tuesday 9-10-19)
Build 17A577

iOS 13 Beta 8 (Wednesday 8-21-19)
17A5572a
 

sbailey4

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No professional in the software industry would abandon version control and assign the same build number to two different pieces of software.

Additionally iOS would not detect that an update was available.
You mean like this:

iOS 17.0 Beta 4 (Tuesday 7-25-23)
21A5291h
21A5291j revised (Monday 7-31-23)
 
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