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eyespy03

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This is wild to me. I only wish. I was off the charger at 4:15am this morning at by 6:30am I was down to 90%.
There are too many variables with these types of comparisons: how many apps are running in the background, how much usage is occurring, and what kind of apps are used during that time. I know there are mornings when I get up and scroll on social media, and my battery drops quickly. If I am listening to a streaming podcast or something, it is far less. It will drop quickly if I use CarPlay, stream music, and use the GPS in a low cell area. We are all not Apples to Apples. But on any update, it takes a few days for things to settle down and for you to understand better. I have also listened to our boy @Pearsey, and I often will do a couple of hard reboots, which has resolved and smoothed out many of these software updates. I will back that up by having family do the same when they hit "bugs" in the software, and they, too, have found this resolves the issues (not a single one has ever needed to go to Apple or start over on a fresh install).

That's just my $0.02
 

MrRom92

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Sep 30, 2021
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If you’re having issues with IPSW, why don’t you try OTA instead?
Haven’t had any issues on my 13P besides the ones listed as bugs.
I really prefer wired updates as opposed to OTA - at least, as long as the wired update actually works, which they always did until iOS 18

Regardless of the fact that there’s an alternative, the primary method of updating should at the very least be functional and not brick devices. No excuses!!
 

kirbysmartsdawg

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Oct 2, 2024
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There are too many variables with these types of comparisons: how many apps are running in the background, how much usage is occurring, and what kind of apps are used during that time. I know there are mornings when I get up and scroll on social media, and my battery drops quickly. If I am listening to a streaming podcast or something, it is far less. It will drop quickly if I use CarPlay, stream music, and use the GPS in a low cell area. We are all not Apples to Apples. But on any update, it takes a few days for things to settle down and for you to understand better. I have also listened to our boy @Pearsey, and I often will do a couple of hard reboots, which has resolved and smoothed out many of these software updates. I will back that up by having family do the same when they hit "bugs" in the software, and they, too, have found this resolves the issues (not a single one has ever needed to go to Apple or start over on a fresh install).

That's just my $0.02
Yes, I completely agree with you. I've been participating in the iOS 18 battery life thread to address my issues. I've turned off almost everything, and I rarely use my phone. This morning, I used it for just 15 minutes and sent two messages, and it dropped to 90%.

I hope the battery life improves as we continue to use iOS 18. So far, my experience has not been good.
 

Tokenfreak

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Oct 31, 2011
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The multiple password app bug is still present in 18.1 RC. It’s even worst now that it shows 3 password apps instead of 2 like it did before.

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MrRom92

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OTA is the intended primary method though
OTA didn’t even exist at first, OTA updates were introduced years into the iOS ecosystem already being a thing, and it was introduced as an alternative. Maybe it is more popular now. That’s not my problem nor is it the point.
Primary or not, any official method Apple offers for completing routine device maintenance tasks should NOT be this broken.
 

d245770q

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Dec 9, 2009
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OTA didn’t even exist at first, OTA updates were introduced years into the iOS ecosystem already being a thing, and it was introduced as an alternative. Maybe it is more popular now. That’s not my problem nor is it the point.
Primary or not, any official method Apple offers for completing routine device maintenance tasks should NOT be this broken.
Maybe we should all just move on from this? 🧐
 

Pearsey

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Nov 12, 2016
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Yes, I completely agree with you. I've been participating in the iOS 18 battery life thread to address my issues. I've turned off almost everything, and I rarely use my phone. This morning, I used it for just 15 minutes and sent two messages, and it dropped to 90%.

I hope the battery life improves as we continue to use iOS 18. So far, my experience has not been good.

If it’s doing things like that on a new/ish phone and you haven’t got the screen up full brightness and updating 30 apps whilst on iMessage, then I would reinstall the iOS. Pretty confident that will sort out the issue. There’s a guide on the first page of this thread.
 

Fred Zed

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Aug 15, 2019
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Upstate NY . Was FL.
This is what I mentioned above: I’m wondering if the laxness that Apple showed during the beta about allowing users to switch regions will be going away with the public release.
I’m not sure I have put forward correctly what I was originally trying to say. I was merely saying that for me the my default voicemail greeting remains in US voice. Only was for me to change this to a UK voice is to change regional setting. I can however use UK voice elsewhere for siri when still having USA as my regional setting.
 

kirbysmartsdawg

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Oct 2, 2024
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If it’s doing things like that on a new/ish phone and you haven’t got the screen up full brightness and updating 30 apps whilst on iMessage, then I would reinstall the iOS. Pretty confident that will sort out the issue. There’s a guide on the first page of this thread.
It’s a brand new iPhone 16 Pro. This hasn’t been an 18.1 issue. The problems began after the first minor update that came out of the box. The version installed on the phone worked well initially, but that first update triggered all the issues. The same pattern occurred on my 14 Pro. It was great on the last beta of 18.0, but the RC and subsequent versions were terrible.

Edit: To add, I did the RC update using the IPSW.
 

MrRom92

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OK…. Looks like we aren’t moving on from this. Maybe you should write Tim a strongly worded email? Because repeating it over and over in here isn’t going to fix the issue that apparently only you are having!
It’s not me that’s only having the issue. There have been other reports of Apple Devices updates bricking other people’s devices as well. They are out there on this forum. But sure let’s just excuse the trillion dollar tech company and allow them to keep distributing broken software that’s putting people’s hardware and data at risk.


For all the back and forth that my simple post started, not one person has managed to actually answer the question: is it still broken? But there’s no shortage of people outright denying the issue or downplaying its severity.
 

jazzzyJeff

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It’s not me that’s only having the issue. There have been other reports of Apple Devices updates bricking other people’s devices as well. They are out there on this forum. But sure let’s just excuse the trillion dollar tech company and allow them to keep distributing broken software that’s putting people’s hardware and data at risk.
No one’s making any excuses.
You’re having an issue with updating and there’s a clear alternative that millions of us are using without any issues which you refuse to use but instead sticking to the other that your own “feeling” is telling you to don’t. And you’d rather keep discussing about it.


Now let’s focus on the issues and workarounds that those of us who actually updated are experiencing.
 

ManuCH

macrumors 68000
May 7, 2009
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Looks like the WatchOS 11.1 RC is out. I really wish Apple could make watch updates download at a decent pace.....

It is awful. But not near as bad as in the first few WatchOSes. It use to take multiple hours. Not sure why.

It is saying 688 MB and it is saying 30 to 45 mins. Horrible........

I actually found a trick to make it much faster: start the update normally, then make sure the Apple Watch is connected to your Wifi. After that, go to iPhone settings, then turn off Bluetooth (not from control center!).

That will force the Apple Watch to resume the download over Wifi. It will take only 5-10 minutes. Ignore the warning in the Watch app saying that the watch is disconnected, do not turn on Bluetooth.

Once the download has finished, you can turn on Bluetooth again.
 

Tech_Fan

macrumors member
Oct 19, 2024
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It’s not me that’s only having the issue. There have been other reports of Apple Devices updates bricking other people’s devices as well. They are out there on this forum. But sure let’s just excuse the trillion dollar tech company and allow them to keep distributing broken software that’s putting people’s hardware and data at risk.


For all the back and forth that my simple post started, not one person has managed to actually answer the question: is it still broken? But there’s no shortage of people outright denying the issue or downplaying its severity.

I don’t think anyone is discrediting those of you who are having issues with your iPhone and I don’t think anyone is trying to side with Apple. Having said that, how do you expect the people who aren’t experiencing any issues on their iPhone respond to the question, “Is it still broken?”

You can’t get mad at people who are informing you that they aren’t having any problems with their iPhones.
 

MrRom92

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Sep 30, 2021
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I don’t think anyone is discrediting those of you who are having issues with your iPhone and I don’t think anyone is trying to side with Apple. Having said that, how do you expect the people who aren’t experiencing any issues on their iPhone respond to the question, “Is it still broken?”

You can’t get mad at people who are informing you that they aren’t having any problems with their iPhones.
Well the people who are installing this update would fall into one of 3 camps, correct?

1. Updated OTA
2. Updated via IPSW on a Mac
3. Updated via IPSW on Windows “Apple Devices”

We have plenty of people chiming in that 1. Is functional
We even had one person upthread chiming in that 2 is functional

So, people in camp 3 are being very quiet. And I am asking because I genuinely want to know how it is going for these people. It is either still bricking devices or the problem has been fixed. There are only so many choices here.


“hi everyone! I updated via Apple Devices, and my iPhone is working! I’m on iOS 18.1 now!”

Or

“Hi everyone, I have bad news. I tried to update to iOS 18.1 in Apple Devices, and my iPhone is bricked now”


I’m asking because these people are not sharing their experiences unprompted. I’m only getting frustrated at those who are basically saying “who cares, I did things a different way and you can too”
 

Pearsey

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Nov 12, 2016
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It’s a brand new iPhone 16 Pro. This hasn’t been an 18.1 issue. The problems began after the first minor update that came out of the box. The version installed on the phone worked well initially, but that first update triggered all the issues. The same pattern occurred on my 14 Pro. It was great on the last beta of 18.0, but the RC and subsequent versions were terrible.

Edit: To add, I did the RC update using the IPSW.

Hmm, 16 Pro user and had solid battery from launch day phone on 18.1 betas.

Thats annoying for you. My next steps would be to determine if its hardware or something in my backup. If you’ve checked the obvious in battery settings to see if its a rouge app then…

… This is a pain, but a positive step to figuring out the problems, so do a full encrypted back up to your Mac or back up to iCloud. Then I’d factory reset the phone to new. When jumping through the splash screens on install don’t use your back up, set up a fresh phone. Then see if you get drain.

If you don’t, it’s something in your back up, an app that needs an update or reinstall or just an old back up that’s got buggy. Happened to me when I had my 12. Had to do a fresh install of apps and settings, deleted my iCloud back up to start from fresh and everything was fine. If you still have battery drain, as you haven’t uploaded your back up, it’s pointing more likely to hardware, a guess would be your cellular receiver or Bluetooth, something over running potentially that’s at fault and you can take it to Apple for a check up.

That’s just what I would do to try and get to the bottom of it. As my iPhone 16 Pro has had solid battery I can’t seem to find why it would be the iOS and get fixed with an update. Lots of things in your situation could clash with what I’ve suggested, but you catch my drift of what your trying to achieve.
 

d245770q

macrumors regular
Dec 9, 2009
179
172
London
Well the people who are installing this update would fall into one of 3 camps, correct?

1. Updated OTA
2. Updated via IPSW on a Mac
3. Updated via IPSW on Windows “Apple Devices”

We have plenty of people chiming in that 1. Is functional
We even had one person upthread chiming in that 2 is functional

So, people in camp 3 are being very quiet. And I am asking because I genuinely want to know how it is going for these people. It is either still bricking devices or the problem has been fixed. There are only so many choices here.


“hi everyone! I updated via Apple Devices, and my iPhone is working! I’m on iOS 18.1 now!”

Or

“Hi everyone, I have bad news. I tried to update to iOS 18.1 in Apple Devices, and my iPhone is bricked now”


I’m asking because these people are not sharing their experiences unprompted. I’m only getting frustrated at those who are basically saying “who cares, I did things a different way and you can too”
Clearly, nobody on here has the answer for you.
 

Roctavious

macrumors newbie
Nov 22, 2017
7
9
Well the people who are installing this update would fall into one of 3 camps, correct?

1. Updated OTA
2. Updated via IPSW on a Mac
3. Updated via IPSW on Windows “Apple Devices”

We have plenty of people chiming in that 1. Is functional
We even had one person upthread chiming in that 2 is functional

So, people in camp 3 are being very quiet. And I am asking because I genuinely want to know how it is going for these people. It is either still bricking devices or the problem has been fixed. There are only so many choices here.


“hi everyone! I updated via Apple Devices, and my iPhone is working! I’m on iOS 18.1 now!”

Or

“Hi everyone, I have bad news. I tried to update to iOS 18.1 in Apple Devices, and my iPhone is bricked now”


I’m asking because these people are not sharing their experiences unprompted. I’m only getting frustrated at those who are basically saying “who cares, I did things a different way and you can too”
Maybe no news is good news...
 

Tech_Fan

macrumors member
Oct 19, 2024
87
59
Florida
Well the people who are installing this update would fall into one of 3 camps, correct?

1. Updated OTA
2. Updated via IPSW on a Mac
3. Updated via IPSW on Windows “Apple Devices”

We have plenty of people chiming in that 1. Is functional
We even had one person upthread chiming in that 2 is functional

So, people in camp 3 are being very quiet. And I am asking because I genuinely want to know how it is going for these people. It is either still bricking devices or the problem has been fixed. There are only so many choices here.


“hi everyone! I updated via Apple Devices, and my iPhone is working! I’m on iOS 18.1 now!”

Or

“Hi everyone, I have bad news. I tried to update to iOS 18.1 in Apple Devices, and my iPhone is bricked now”


I’m asking because these people are not sharing their experiences unprompted. I’m only getting frustrated at those who are basically saying “who cares, I did things a different way and you can too”

I can understand that. I really can, and it’s unfortunate that some people are having issues and others aren’t. If someone is literally saying, “who cares?” then ignore that person and go on to the next post.

To those who are saying, “I installed via _____ and it has worked out great”, They are basically trying to help by providing you with an alternative method to try. They don’t know whether or not you’ve tried that method.

I know “Me”. If I were experiencing issues and found that others weren’t, I’d be trying all of their suggestions until I got it resolved.

Finally, when I hear someone say their iPhone is bricked, I am skeptical and I end up asking for their definition of ‘bricked’. In my experience, if the phone powers on and I can see something on the screen, it’s not bricked. It may have crashed, but the device/software is fixable.
 
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