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Apple- We care about the environment so we will quit including a charger and leather cases.
Also Apple- "but your 2-year-old iPhone that is plenty capable of handling AI with the chip won't get all of the features, go out and buy a new iPhone because who cares about the environment...."

Luckily Apple also supports devices for 6+ years with updates, sure you can't get every new feature on every device.. But you still get most new features and all security updates and base OS support.

On Android you'd be lucky if the device you buy will get one new major release. Or even that it will run the newest version of Android.
 
This isn't about driving new iPhone sales. This is about delivering an insanely great AI experience that aligns perfectly with Apple's core values and vision.
Sure.. Because the last how many years of software have been absolute *******? Apple hasn't delivered an "insanely great" experience for any of their products in years.
 
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Okay, I’m confused: given the general reaction of this thread it seems most people are freaking out their 1yo phone wont get a new major feature. But my understanding is the new feature is coming to all phones which current support 17 but it will just utilize services versus on-machine processing. Other than the privacy concerns, most user will probably not even notice right? So what’s the big deal?
 
Not a single android device supports on device AI. Even the S24 ultra doesn’t.

Wtf are y’all complaining. Apple is actually doing better than the other companies lol.
S24 supports Gemini Nano on-device AI.

The Honor Magic 6 Pro has on-device AI too

HONOR's expertise in on-device AI is demonstrated through the launch of MagicOS 8.0 at MWC, which fully integrated platform-level AI and the industry's first intent-based user interface (IUI). MagicOS 8.0 also boasts Magic Portal, an intent-based shortcut recommendation feature that lets users seamlessly switch and access services between apps with a single drag. It supports 100 major apps globally.

HONOR also partnered with Qualcomm to demonstrate the use of open-source Llama 2 on the new HONOR Magic6 Pro, showcasing the power of on-device AI even for offline use.



New to its operating system is MagicLM, the on-device large language model AI with seven billion parameters, granting it on-device AI abilities.
 
I won't need such advanced AI features, so I'll be fine with my iPhone SE 2. My brother has an iPhone SE 3, and he won't need to use said features either. It's only after Apple entirely drops new iOS support for the iPhone SE 2 when I'll finally upgrade to a new iPhone; a "regular" model and not the Plus or Pro versions.
 
This is different.
It will require a HELL of a good neural engine. Trust me, with larger language models, you don't want Siri to suddenly take 30s-1min to answer. You want it to be instant.

Or buy any Android phone with Gemini but your requests will all go online and you will be the product.

The M1 has less neural processing power than the A16 Bionic. Try again.
 
The M1 has less neural processing power than the A16 Bionic. Try again.
Oh I expect M1 will not support all AI features, at least not generated text and images and videos if Apple ever takes this route. It's too slow indeed. I've already tried.
 
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Apple- We care about the environment so we will quit including a charger and leather cases.
Also Apple- "but your 2-year-old iPhone that is plenty capable of handling AI with the chip won't get all of the features, go out and buy a new iPhone because who cares about the environment...."
Apple didn't allow Siri on the iPhone 4, only the 4S. Because it was too slow. Then jailbreakers were able to get the Siri running on the 4, saying it works on 4 and Apple is just forcing this limitation to sell more phones. Then people tried using it on the 4, and it was garbage, super slow, didn't respond, didn't have the power needed for a good experience. Just because some can run on older hardware doesn't mean it's good at running on older hardware.

Also with the recent AI device that were released that had horrible reviews, and made some companies go under because of them, I think Apple would rather limit the AI to the best hardware to avoid those reviews. Make lots of money be selling new hardware is just a bonus.
 
Okay, I’m confused: given the general reaction of this thread it seems most people are freaking out their 1yo phone wont get a new major feature. But my understanding is the new feature is coming to all phones which current support 17 but it will just utilize services versus on-machine processing. Other than the privacy concerns, most user will probably not even notice right? So what’s the big deal?
It is an Internet forum, what did you expect?

People complain that the iPad Pro M4 lacks a killer app that would justify its raw power, but at the same time lament that Apple is considering introducing new features that would require the latest and greatest!

Me, I am perfectly happy with my iPhone XS which may still run on iOS 18 (and get security updates for a couple of extra years). Try that with virtually any Android phone!
 
Okay, I’m confused: given the general reaction of this thread it seems most people are freaking out their 1yo phone wont get a new major feature. But my understanding is the new feature is coming to all phones which current support 17 but it will just utilize services versus on-machine processing. Other than the privacy concerns, most user will probably not even notice right? So what’s the big deal?
Well, privacy concerns are a big deal in themselves.

Meanwhile, anyone who made the transition from Intel-powered Macs to Apple silicon-powered Mac’s will remember that while the Intel devices continued to get the latest OS and security updates, there were a number of features they didn’t get because they were offered only on the devices with Apple processors. It sounds like this will be the case with AI. Which suits me just fine. But those who are freaking out over it should clam down and wait until the iOS 18 is actually released.
 
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However, given the many concerns about how AI functionality works (e.g. the upcoming Copilot+ functionality in Windows 11), if I update to iOS 18 before I get an iPhone 16 Plus, I won't worry about it. AI is still an immature technology and it may take several years to perfect it on a small device.
 
I’m confused. One line says M1 and newer iPad pros will be able to do on device functionality, and a few lines later it says anything older than 5th gen IPP won’t support it? I have an M2 IPP but it’s 4th gen…? 16 gbs of ram, tho…
which is it, M1 or must be the Oled pro?
Most likely they are referring to the 12.9”, while you have an 11”. The 12.9” 5th gen corresponds to the 11” 3rd gen, because the first two iPad Pro generations were 12.9”-only.
 
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Well, look on the bright side:

I didn’t want to need to turn off all these AI features on my phone, and now I won’t have to because they won’t work on it 😂
 
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