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I’m really looking forward to some new visual design in iOS - Apple are usually quite good at UI design.

Might be the first year I don’t switch phones though. The benefits of upgrading the iPhone seem to get less each year. Hoping for a few useful new iOS features. It would be nice if they did a few new things with both the camera app and the photos app.

I’m quite happy with core iOS at the moment to be honest. It does everything I need quite well and I rarely see any bugs that I can think of barring tiny things that I actually can’t even remember.
 
Take Samsung, they also put their numbers by the release years and the current S line are S25.
And that’s the real reason. So Apple phones look “1 better” than Samsung phones. Same reason the second Xbox was called Xbox 360 so it sounded better when compared to PlayStation 3. This is all marketing BS and none of it matters.

Macworld used to be in January and software versions of iWork and iLife had the year on them. But iLife 08 came out in 2007. iLife 11 came out in 2010. Similarly, Microsoft has often got the years +1 for Office if the new version was ready in the summer or fall.

Nothing new here. Been happening for many years.
 
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It will still be four months until the end of 2025, though. Take Samsung, they also put their numbers by the release years and the current S line are S25.
Samsung's main devices come out at the end of January or beginning of February, so their entire life is basically in 2025, so for them it makes sense to use 25.
 
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I’m stoked to see what’s coming! I’ll be backing up my iPad today so I can install the iPadOS beta when it drops! 👍🏻. I’m really hoping to be able to watch the keynote live, but I don’t know yet if I will be too busy when it’s going or not. 🙁. Hopefully I’m not, and I’ll be able to see it live! 👍🏻
 
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It will still be four months until the end of 2025, though. Take Samsung, they also put their numbers by the release years and the current S line are S25.
In the car-business it is totally normal since like forever to indroduce the new model year after the summer holidays.
For example all Volkswagen Group models are model year 2026 from next month on.

My current car, a CUPRA Formentor (CUPRA is a spanish Volkswagen Group brand here in Europe) was manufactured on July 23rd 2024 - and it is model year 2025.
 
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In the car-business it is totally normal since like forever to indroduce the new model year after the summer holidays.
For example all Volkswagen Group models are model year 2026 from next month on.

My current car, a CUPRA Formentor (CUPRA is a spanish Volkswagen Group brand here in Europe) was manufactured on July 23rd 2024 - and it is model year 2025.

Well you don’t change a car every year, so this makes sense, as the name preserves its “freshness”. Apple’s main OS versions come out every single year, though, so it is not quite the same.
 
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I’m really looking forward to some new visual design in iOS - Apple are usually quite good at UI design.

Might be the first year I don’t switch phones though. The benefits of upgrading the iPhone seem to get less each year. Hoping for a few useful new iOS features. It would be nice if they did a few new things with both the camera app and the photos app.

I’m quite happy with core iOS at the moment to be honest. It does everything I need quite well and I rarely see any bugs that I can think of barring tiny things that I actually can’t even remember.
It’s been that way for quite a while now honestly. I think more people are finally catching on.
 
What I’m really interested in seeing in terms of the naming convention is whether or not Apple will utilize a minimalist landscape wallpaper like they have for macOS on all of the OSes. They could all use different parts of a scene, and when combined together in Apple’s promo graphics, show a full landscape. That would be pretty cool, not sure if it will happen, but it would be pretty cool if it does! 👍🏻. And maybe they could all share the Tahoe name?
If this glass-look comes to fruition it will be interesting to see if they have wallpaper to either match or at least bring out its elements best.
 
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And that’s the real reason. So Apple phones look “1 better” than Samsung phones. Same reason the second Xbox was called Xbox 360 so it sounded better when compared to PlayStation 3. This is all marketing BS and none of it matters.

Macworld used to be in January and software versions of iWork and iLife had the year on them. But iLife 08 came out in 2007. iLife 11 came out in 2010. Similarly, Microsoft has often got the years +1 for Office if the new version was ready in the summer or fall.

Nothing new here. Been happening for many years.
No different than how car models are named… the ‘26 models will be built and first released in ‘25, … yadda yadda yadda..

BUT it does do a good thing in syncing up the various OS’s across Apple’s products..
 
If this glass-look comes to fruition it will be interesting to see if they have wallpaper to either match or at least bring out its elements best.
Solid.. probably pastel backgrounds would look best… help to bring out a “frosted” look..

Should be quite interesting to see the actual renders Monday afternoon..
 
If this glass-look comes to fruition it will be interesting to see if they have wallpaper to either match or at least bring out its elements best.
Yeah, I think a minimalist gradient water surface with sun reflecting on it (similar style to prior year macOS wallpapers) would bring out the translucent glass elements quite nicely. 👍🏻. This would also match with the rumored “Tahoe” name for macOS. 👍🏻. They could all either use the same wallpaper, or better, corresponding ones that make a bigger picture when the devices are aligned in Apple’s promo graphics. 👍🏻
 
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I think quality control is perfectly fine in iOS. Even running developer betas, I’ve rarely encountered any bugs. And they should release new features each year, it would be incredibly boring if they didn’t and we lost yearly releases…
I use the betas too usually.

Just because you and your use case might not encounter bugs doesn’t mean there aren’t any.

Siri on my iPad Pro M1 is actually worse than it was pre “AI”. At least before that I could usually summon it and it would answer instead of doing nothing.
Apple Music over the past year has increased in crashes, and freezes. Sometimes the lockscreen doesn’t even show the correct song or album information.

Yearly releases are garbage, 90% of the features because of this are marketing fluff or gimmicks because of this. QA sucks. I’ll die on this hill. And no I’m not in the minority.
 
I use the betas too usually.

Just because you and your use case might not encounter bugs doesn’t mean there aren’t any.

Siri on my iPad Pro M1 is actually worse than it was pre “AI”. At least before that I could usually summon it and it would answer instead of doing nothing.
Apple Music over the past year has increased in crashes, and freezes. Sometimes the lockscreen doesn’t even show the correct song or album information.

Yearly releases are garbage, 90% of the features because of this are marketing fluff or gimmicks because of this. QA sucks. I’ll die on this hill. And no I’m not in the minority.
My use-case is quite intensive, not only do I do professional graphic design work, but also 3D modeling/sculpting, all on my iPad, and I literally explore every aspect of the OS for my SubStack because I do software reviews and content. I’m not saying no one ever runs into bugs, but if there were these really major widespread bugs, I would be extremely likely to run into them since I press my system so hard, and explore it thoroughly and am constantly testing things out for my content…

Siri works perfectly fine on my M1 iPad Pro, I haven’t had any issues with it on iPadOS 18, and it returns better answers and provides more functionality than it did in iPadOS 17. Even with running the betas, I have never had any issues with Siri not working…

That’s nothing more than your opinion. Many of us actually like yearly releases. And citing one dude’s YouTube video to try to claim “I’m not in the minority” isn’t evidence for your claim. At best, it’s a faulty appeal to authority, and that’s being very charitable even calling some rando YouTuber an “authority”… The fact of the matter is, many people look forward to yearly releases, that’s why threads like this exist in the first place. Just because you don’t like them and managed to find one YouTuber who also doesn’t like them doesn’t mean diddly squat about anything…
 
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Yeah, I think a minimalist gradient water surface with sun reflecting on it (similar style to prior year macOS wallpapers) would bring out the translucent glass elements quite nicely. 👍🏻. This would also match with the rumored “Tahoe” name for macOS. 👍🏻. They could all either use the same wallpaper, or better, corresponding ones that make a bigger picture when the devices are aligned in Apple’s promo graphics. 👍🏻
@UpsideDownEclair why the laugh react? I’m just saying what I think would look nice for a wallpaper, you can use whatever wallpaper you want…
 
My use-case is quite intensive, not only do I do professional graphic design work, but also 3D modeling/sculpting, all on my iPad, and I literally explore every aspect of the OS for my SubStack because I do software reviews and content. I’m not saying no one ever runs into bugs, but if there were these really major widespread bugs, I would be extremely likely to run into them since I press my system so hard, and explore it thoroughly and am constantly testing things out for my content…

Siri works perfectly fine on my M1 iPad Pro, I haven’t had any issues with it on iPadOS 18, and it returns better answers and provides more functionality than it did in iPadOS 17. Even with running the betas, I have never had any issues with Siri not working…

That’s nothing more than your opinion. Many of us actually like yearly releases. And citing one dude’s YouTube video to try to claim “I’m not in the minority” isn’t evidence for your claim. At best, it’s a faulty appeal to authority, and that’s being very charitable even calling some rando YouTuber an “authority”… The fact of the matter is, many people look forward to yearly releases, that’s why threads like this exist in the first place. Just because you don’t like them and managed to find one YouTuber who also doesn’t like them doesn’t mean diddly squat about anything…
Had you watched that video you wouldn’t be saying that. He literally cites many people’s screenshots and issues that were sent in.

Nowhere did I say a YouTuber is an authority, however when I’m scrolling through and I see 100+ videos that talk about issues like this it becomes a lot more than just one person. Which again, you obviously didn’t want it because it’s not just his experiences he’s talking about.

It’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. You haven’t had issues? Great. Consider yourself lucky. I used to constantly tell people on here that I thought they were nuts for having the issues they were having too, because it wasn’t happening to me.

Things work, most of the issues I have aren’t completely making my devices useless. But the fact they’re NOTICEABLE is a problem. WiFi calling hasn’t worked in months for example. I have a dual sim setup, which is uncommon. Maybe that’s the reason it doesn’t work for me anymore. Nonetheless, I can barely talk to anyone at my apartment unless it’s over FaceTime or some other Internet service like messenger. Actual phone calls either don’t complete or the other person can’t hear me.

Go watch a video on your iPad Pro and try to get Siri to do something while it’s playing. On mine, it is 100% recreatable when a video is being played. When summoned, the video pauses, I ask Siri to do something, then Siri disappears without doing what I’ve asked and the video continues playing. This a fact, not “mY oPiNiOn”. People with your attitude are why I strongly dislike posting outside of the PPC or early Intel forum🙄

An operating system should be released with ALL its features. Not in 18.1, not in 18.5.. if it was announced at WWDC, it need to be there and working in 18.0. That hasn’t happened in probably over a decade. And that’s going into a bigger issue because Apple isn’t the only one who does this unfortunately. And yeah you’re correct that most the NPCs look forward to the yearly releases. But a lot of people don’t, and there’s more people than you realize that wish they’d stop.

Even my Mac that’s on the latest OS does some weird crap.
Why was Snow Leopard so good? Because they took their time on it and it wasn’t rushed out just because it was a new year and time to push something out. The same can be said about Windows 7 or XP for that matter. Software was genuinely better when the developers took their time to make things work, and weren’t under orders to crap out a new version in 8 months with half-baked features.
The time is only half the problem, I’ve heard a lot of rumors that the communication between different teams at Apple is pretty bad which definitely can’t help.
 
Had you watched that video you wouldn’t be saying that. He literally cites many people’s screenshots and issues that were sent in.

Nowhere did I say a YouTuber is an authority, however when I’m scrolling through and I see 100+ videos that talk about issues like this it becomes a lot more than just one person. Which again, you obviously didn’t want it because it’s not just his experiences he’s talking about.

It’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. You haven’t had issues? Great. Consider yourself lucky. I used to constantly tell people on here that I thought they were nuts for having the issues they were having too, because it wasn’t happening to me.

Things work, most of the issues I have aren’t completely making my devices useless. But the fact they’re NOTICEABLE is a problem. WiFi calling hasn’t worked in months for example. I have a dual sim setup, which is uncommon. Maybe that’s the reason it doesn’t work for me anymore. Nonetheless, I can barely talk to anyone at my apartment unless it’s over FaceTime or some other Internet service like messenger. Actual phone calls either don’t complete or the other person can’t hear me.

Go watch a video on your iPad Pro and try to get Siri to do something while it’s playing. On mine, it is 100% recreatable when a video is being played. When summoned, the video pauses, I ask Siri to do something, then Siri disappears without doing what I’ve asked and the video continues playing. This a fact, not “mY oPiNiOn”. People with your attitude are why I strongly dislike posting outside of the PPC or early Intel forum🙄

An operating system should be released with ALL its features. Not in 18.1, not in 18.5.. if it was announced at WWDC, it need to be there and working in 18.0. That hasn’t happened in probably over a decade. And that’s going into a bigger issue because Apple isn’t the only one who does this unfortunately. And yeah you’re correct that most the NPCs look forward to the yearly releases. But a lot of people don’t, and there’s more people than you realize that wish they’d stop.

Even my Mac that’s on the latest OS does some weird crap.
Why was Snow Leopard so good? Because they took their time on it and it wasn’t rushed out just because it was a new year and time to push something out. The same can be said about Windows 7 or XP for that matter. Software was genuinely better when the developers took their time to make things work, and weren’t under orders to crap out a new version in 8 months with half-baked features.
The time is only half the problem, I’ve heard a lot of rumors that the communication between different teams at Apple is pretty bad which definitely can’t help.
I did watch part of the video (didn’t have time or interest to watch the whole thing), and as I said before, I have never argued that nobody ever runs into bugs. Citing a dozen cases of people running into bugs doesn’t make it some big widespread problem that like 50% or more users run into. No OS is “bug free”… That’s an impossible standard.

I didn’t say it was only one person. I said a minority of people run into most of these bugs in my opinion. I have yet to see any evidence that any of these bugs are very widespread and common for most people outside of niche forums like this…

It’s merely your opinion that yearly releases are “garbage”, or that new yearly releases should come with all features on day one. Those are merely opinions and not facts. Many people expect that not all features announced at WWDC will be available on day one, and many people prefer yearly OS releases… And no, I’ve never run into the problem you claim with Siri and YouTube, nor do I expect that would be a very common way people would use Siri anyways…

I respect that some like you don’t like yearly updates, but many do, this is literally a thread for those who are anticipating this year’s yearly update. Calling such people as myself and most of the people in this thread “NPCs” is a disrespectful “attitude”…
 
Had you watched that video you wouldn’t be saying that. He literally cites many people’s screenshots and issues that were sent in.

Nowhere did I say a YouTuber is an authority, however when I’m scrolling through and I see 100+ videos that talk about issues like this it becomes a lot more than just one person. Which again, you obviously didn’t want it because it’s not just his experiences he’s talking about.

It’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. You haven’t had issues? Great. Consider yourself lucky. I used to constantly tell people on here that I thought they were nuts for having the issues they were having too, because it wasn’t happening to me.

Things work, most of the issues I have aren’t completely making my devices useless. But the fact they’re NOTICEABLE is a problem. WiFi calling hasn’t worked in months for example. I have a dual sim setup, which is uncommon. Maybe that’s the reason it doesn’t work for me anymore. Nonetheless, I can barely talk to anyone at my apartment unless it’s over FaceTime or some other Internet service like messenger. Actual phone calls either don’t complete or the other person can’t hear me.

Go watch a video on your iPad Pro and try to get Siri to do something while it’s playing. On mine, it is 100% recreatable when a video is being played. When summoned, the video pauses, I ask Siri to do something, then Siri disappears without doing what I’ve asked and the video continues playing. This a fact, not “mY oPiNiOn”. People with your attitude are why I strongly dislike posting outside of the PPC or early Intel forum🙄

An operating system should be released with ALL its features. Not in 18.1, not in 18.5.. if it was announced at WWDC, it need to be there and working in 18.0. That hasn’t happened in probably over a decade. And that’s going into a bigger issue because Apple isn’t the only one who does this unfortunately. And yeah you’re correct that most the NPCs look forward to the yearly releases. But a lot of people don’t, and there’s more people than you realize that wish they’d stop.

Even my Mac that’s on the latest OS does some weird crap.
Why was Snow Leopard so good? Because they took their time on it and it wasn’t rushed out just because it was a new year and time to push something out. The same can be said about Windows 7 or XP for that matter. Software was genuinely better when the developers took their time to make things work, and weren’t under orders to crap out a new version in 8 months with half-baked features.
The time is only half the problem, I’ve heard a lot of rumors that the communication between different teams at Apple is pretty bad which definitely can’t help.
I understand some of your points but not all. For example, "They shouldn't make yearly updates" and "all features need to be there and working in an x.0 release" seem contradictory. I think it's good for Apple to stagger and work on features until they're ready instead of rushing them out for a specific major version each year.
 
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