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crashoverride77

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Not BS at all.Control Centre was working SMOOTHLY in 8.4.1.Spotlight Search animation was smooth as butter on 8.4.1.Both of these are lagging in iOS 9 and I cant even see any extra visual effects contributing to this performance degradation.Its clear as daylight


Xcode fps meter does not lie.The YouTube videos showing the performance comparison with 8.4.1 also dont lie.The performance loss is not noticeable to some but that doesnt mean its not there

and iOS 8 also stutters in places, try opening safari passwords in settings and see how smooth the keyboard pops up. What's your point?

This has nothing to do with planned obsolescence. It's just a stupid concept to begin with and makes zero sense.
 

SunnySharma__

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iOS 9.2 on my iPhone6 has been largely ok. The only set of issues I have faced includes settings screen still load with a jerk and then it opens with the normal view, flashing notification bar on unlocking the phone, blank settings on the app switcher and a slight stutter while opening the apps sometimes and on spot light search pull down (only rarely though). Also, I noticed a slight degrade of the battery. Any of those fixed?

I my self being a developer for a good 8 years understand how tricky it can be to get rid of the UI lags and stutters, but still I believe some of the bugs like the blank settings on the app switcher can be fixed without much of a fuss.
 

crashoverride77

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iOS 9.2 on my iPhone6 has been largely ok. The only set of issues I have faced includes settings screen still load with a jerk and then it opens with the normal view, flashing notification bar on unlocking the phone, blank settings on the app switcher and a slight stutter while opening the apps sometimes and on spot light search pull down (only rarely though). Also, I noticed a slight degrade of the battery. Any of those fixed?

I my self being a developer for a good 8 years understand how tricky it can be to get rid of the UI lags and stutters, but still I believe some of the bugs like the blank settings on the app switcher can be fixed without much of a fuss.

Of course, stuff can always be improved. However people claiming this stupid planned obsolescence stuff have no clue what they are talking about.

I wonder how the conversation at Apple goes.

Tim Cook: Hey iOS is too fast on older devices, please press the planned obsolescence button. Oh and it's too smooth here, can you make it stutter more.

Lmao.
 

Erdbeertorte

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Anyone know where I can download the 6S+ IPSW of 9.2.1?

Do you really need the ISPW if you can update your phone over the air in the settings or with iTunes if you just install the Public Beta Profile?

If yes, you have three options:

1. Pay for a developer account and login here: ;)

https://developer.apple.com/ios/download/

2. Register to the Public Beta Program, install the profile and use iTunes to update. I think it downloads the full ISPW before updating your phone and stores it somewhere in the Library (OS X) or anywhere else if you have Windows. :eek: Maybe you can manage to save it before your phone gets updated and the file will be deleted.

https://beta.apple.com/

3. Use a search engine of your choice and you will find some illegal download sources of it and pray it isn't a fake that makes your Computer and/or iPhone explode. :D
 
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SunnySharma__

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Of course, stuff can always be improved. However people claiming this stupid planned obsolescence stuff have no clue what they are talking about.

I wonder how the conversation at Apple goes.

Tim Cook: Hey iOS is too fast on older devices, please press the planned obsolescence button. Oh and it's too smooth here, can you make it stutter more.

Lmao.
To be very frank, I agree that no software can be flawless, however to have known about some of the very obvious bugs and not providing a fix can only be assumed to have two things - either it's very difficult to fix it or you are willing to ignore it despite a wide spread of the issues.
 

crashoverride77

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To be very frank, I agree that no software can be flawless, however to have known about some of the very obvious bugs and not providing a fix can only be assumed to have two things - either it's very difficult to fix it or you are willing to ignore it despite a wide spread of the issues.

Yeah totally agree, some bugs are so obvious, they should have been fixed ages ago. I guess tho that cosmetic bugs are less important to them at the moment. It's a shame.
 
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sbailey4

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Of course, stuff can always be improved. However people claiming this stupid planned obsolescence stuff have no clue what they are talking about.

I wonder how the conversation at Apple goes.

Tim Cook: Hey iOS is too fast on older devices, please press the planned obsolescence button. Oh and it's too smooth here, can you make it stutter more.
LOL I often wonder that myself. If these believers really think that the Apple engineers during their weekly meetings discuss ways to slow down and break their current iOS so as to make older devices not work so well. Then they can deal with the backlash of the press how their new iOS sux. Upper management discusses that if they make their current customers mad enough with their current devices they wont look for something else but come running back to buy their latest product thereby increasing sales. As a consumer, if I have a Chevy and its nothing but trouble my 1st thought is to buy a NEW Chevy not a Ford. Apple understands this concept. o_O
 
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TC03

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It doesn't really matter if it's on purpose or not. Fact: iOS 9 has worse performance than iOS 8.4.1, even though iOS 9 was meant to *improve* performance. Apple simply failed to deliver on that promise.
 
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TC03

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LOL I often wonder that myself. If these believers really think it through that the Apple engineers during their weekly meetings discuss ways to slow down and break their current iOS so as to make older devices not work so well. Then they can deal with the backlash of the press how their new iOS sux. Upper management discusses that if they make their current customers mad enough with their current devices they wont look for something else but come running back to buy their latest product thereby increasing sales. As a consumer, if I have a Chevy and its nothing but trouble my 1st thought is to buy a NEW Chevy not a Ford. Apple understands this concept. o_O
Stop being silly. Optimizing older devices requires effort and it is very reasonable to think that optimizing performance for older devices isn't their top priority. It's almost a fact really: the iPhone 4s is unaseble in 2015, no way it was like that in 2011. Is that to be expected? Yes, more or less. Does it mean iPhone 4s owners are imagining things? NO.

To summarize:
- It is a FACT that iOS 9 performs worse than iOS 8
- This does not neccesarily mean Apple did this on purpose.
 

C DM

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It doesn't really matter if it's on purpose or not. Fact: iOS 9 has worse performance than iOS 8.4.1, even though iOS 9 was meant to *improve* performance. Apple simply failed to deliver on that promise.
Seems like https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ios-9-vs-ios-8-4-1-unresponsiveness.1942001/ or various other similar threads are good places to discuss all of that (not counting the fact that that discussion already happened a dozen times over in each one of those threads).
 
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Shark5150

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Regarding 9.2.1 we can conclude that it's basically a quick fix release for enterprise MDM issues. That's because of the .x.1 release and being released one week after the 9.2 full build. They made this beta for sysadmins to test in their infrastructure and if it's ok, there'll be a 9.2.1 full release soon, or a .x.2 beta.

But I don't expect them to release 9.3 beta this year.

Here are your iOS 9 Metal performance gains in action :


Before any troll utters "it's a beta", this also occurs in 9.2 full stable release. On a 2015 flagship Apple device.
Wtf
 

TC03

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Seems like https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ios-9-vs-ios-8-4-1-unresponsiveness.1942001/ or various other similar threads are good places to discuss all of that (not counting the fact that that discussion already happened a dozen times over in each one of those threads).
As long as Apple doesn't fix it, it will return. iOS 9 was promised to smooth things up, it only makes sense to wait for that promise.

Btw: dismissing issues other people have that have been documented thoroughly as "it's in your head" doesn't really help anyone.

I agree that it doesn't make sense to respeat the same discussion over and over, but that's only because some users can't understand that lots of people have real issues that are *not* in their head.
 
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TC03

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Because MacRumors is a discussion forum and if we prevent people from creating threads, it defeats the purpose of existing. If you don't like what they post, then please move on.

If you have an issue with people creating threads, please take that up with the admins via the https://forums.macrumors.com/misc/contact/ link. The moderators uphold the rules, we don't make the rules.
Are you incapable of noticing sarcasm?

Serious question.
 

John Mcgregor

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Regarding 9.2.1 we can conclude that it's basically a quick fix release for enterprise MDM issues. That's because of the .x.1 release and being released one week after the 9.2 full build. They made this beta for sysadmins to test in their infrastructure and if it's ok, there'll be a 9.2.1 full release soon, or a .x.2 beta.

But I don't expect them to release 9.3 beta this year.

Here are your iOS 9 Metal performance gains in action :


Before any troll utters "it's a beta", this also occurs in 9.2 full stable release. On a 2015 flagship Apple device.

I saw people complaining about that 3D touch lag, but until i saw this video i had no idea it's so bad. I also have 6S Plus and i don't see anything like that. This leads me to think that it's probably related to hardware. Maybe it has a component from a different supplier?
 

Radon87000

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Of course, stuff can always be improved. However people claiming this stupid planned obsolescence stuff have no clue what they are talking about.

I wonder how the conversation at Apple goes.

Tim Cook: Hey iOS is too fast on older devices, please press the planned obsolescence button. Oh and it's too smooth here, can you make it stutter more.

Lmao.
No need for all that.All they have to do is to NOT optimise the release for older devices.Problem solved
 

C DM

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No need for all that.All they have to do is to NOT optimise the release for older devices.Problem solved
Is that why people with older devices that don't support Metal seem to not have lag and stutters that some of those with Metal see with iOS 9 based on various reports?
 
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ZEEN0j

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Is that why people with older devices that don't support Metal seem to not have lag and stutters that some of those with Metal see with iOS 9 based on various reports?

Well everything worked before metal right?
 

Erdbeertorte

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I saw people complaining about that 3D touch lag, but until i saw this video i had no idea it's so bad. I also have 6S Plus and i don't see anything like that. This leads me to think that it's probably related to hardware. Maybe it has a component from a different supplier?

I don't see that too on my 6S Plus. There is no difference and no lag in both modes. I tried it with 9.2 and 9.2.1.
 

Act3

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AGAIN some of us have lives and simply dont care about 2 frames dropped in Xcode. We want to come to an update thread and ACTUALLY READ ABOUT THE UPDATE IF ITS GOOD TO INSTALL OR BUGGY.

Give it up already. We get you're hard on for lag and cannot possibly drop the topic, it's really just old to to listen to now.

Speaking of giving it up, If you don't care, simply scroll past the post. You obviously care a bit to continue to debate it.
 

minato21

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Do you really need the ISPW if you can update your phone over the air in the settings or with iTunes if you just install the Public Beta Profile?

If yes, you have three options:

1. Pay for a developer account and login here: ;)

https://developer.apple.com/ios/download/

2. Register to the Public Beta Program, install the profile and use iTunes to update. I think it downloads the full ISPW before updating your phone and stores it somewhere in the Library (OS X) or anywhere else if you have Windows. :eek: Maybe you can manage to save it before your phone gets updated and the file will be deleted.

https://beta.apple.com/

3. Use a search engine of your choice and you will find some illegal download sources of it and pray it isn't a fake that makes your Computer and/or iPhone explode. :D
Beta profile installed, ITunes on Windows doesn't detect a beta ipsw to download ):
 

The Doctor11

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Now videos continue to play in the background when you pull down Notification Center, Control Center, or a notification banner. I'm not sure if it's a bug or intended but I hope it's intended. I've always wanted this.
 
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