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scjr

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I'm not much on polls but the survey on this thread is about 2-1 saying it is better performance !

I hope it's improving! It would benefit everyone.

I'm sure folks like yourself will be better able to see which areas fluidity has improved or hasn't. Looking forward to your feedback!
 
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I hope it's improving! It would benefit everyone.

I'm sure folks like yourself will be better able to see which areas fluidity has improved or hasn't. Looking forward to your feedback!

I can deal with the animation lag, it is the digitizer response that concerns me. IF they get that to 8.4.1 speed, I'll have almost no complaints with it and will move my 6 to 9.whatever. Looking forward to it.
 
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Take a look at this video from 3:10.

Watch at 720p60 or 1080p60 and you will clearly see the lag in Control Center, Notification Center, and Spotlight Search on both iPhone 5s'. This issue exists on any device that supports Metal, and is still present on 9.2.


And don't give me the "they are not 'freshly' restored iPhones, so that's why it's lagging" bs because they clearly are.
 
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I'm not much into polls but the survey on this thread is about 2-1 saying it is better performance !

Which wouldn't be surprising really. Now that 9.1 is out of the way (which the purpose of 9.1 was for Apple TV/iPad Pro support along with an update to the Unicode.) Now they can move onto long standing bugs and performance. Which judging by the lack of any big apparent changes or added features in 9.2 point to it being all about bugs and performance. Hopefully can make a big dent to fixing that area and end the constant posting about it. :)
 
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It's interesting people ask all the lag questions of other people when it has become pretty clear that everyone takes these things fairly differently and someone else saying there is or isn't lag somewhere doesn't mean that's how you'll end up perceiving it.
Really, what it comes down to is the same people asking others if they notice lag in every beta for every minor update. And they won't be happy with the answers they get until someone confirms that the lag is there.

I understand their frustrations, as I too notice the lag. I miss the fluidity of 8.4.1 and earlier... but it's also not the end of the world. Nothing to get upset over.
 
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Really, what it comes down to is the same people asking others if they notice lag in every beta for every minor update. And they won't be happy with the answers they get until someone confirms that the lag is there.

I understand their frustrations, as I too notice the lag. I miss the fluidity of 8.4.1 and earlier... but it's also not the end of the world. Nothing to get upset over.

its all relative whether to get upset or not, if you can always afford the latest and greatest, its not a big deal.. If you financially can only afford an upgrade every couple of years, than yes, I can see where some get upset if they upgraded their iOS to new version and are now stuck and unhappy.
 

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Take a look at this video from 3:10.

Watch at 720p60 or 1080p60 and you will clearly see the lag in Control Center, Notification Center, and Spotlight Search on both iPhone 5s'. This issue exists on any device that supports Metal, and is still present on 9.2.


And don't give me the "they are not 'freshly' restored iPhones, so that's why it's lagging" bs because they clearly are.

Oh no the tragedy, a few millisecond lag/a frame drop on a 2 generation old device now. :rolleyes:

I've never seen any official statement iOS9 guaranteed performance improvements across the entire iPhone lineup used out there- especially older devices. If you can't afford a device after 2 years then you deal with the few millisecond lag.

This is common sense with tech- the older stuff doesnt run as well. My old Dell XPS laptop from 5 years ago (top of the line then) runs nothing like the Yoga I bought in December- 10 times slower/laggy. I didnt throw a fit though, I knew it was old and outdated and wasnt going to run as smooth as a newer model. Yes I get it's older then a 6S to 5/5S, but same principle on a smaller scale of lag.

You're literally talking complaining about milliseconds of stuttering and a frame or 2 in a total fraction of a second animation in the scheme of the world here (STILL on a 2 year old model). life as we know it IS over. :rolleyes:

This lag complaining has just gotten to be way too much around here. When I see a REAL issue like really bad hanging/freezing then I will be concerned.
 
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Take a look at this video from 3:10.

Watch at 720p60 or 1080p60 and you will clearly see the lag in Control Center, Notification Center, and Spotlight Search on both iPhone 5s'. This issue exists on any device that supports Metal, and is still present on 9.2.


And don't give me the "they are not 'freshly' restored iPhones, so that's why it's lagging" bs because they clearly are.

Now sure how whoever made that video can say 9.2 isn't focused on speed improvements at the end when 99% of all the apps launched (animated into) quicker on the 9.2 phone. I'm not saying it was super smooth but it's pretty apparent that 9.2 is making strides to fix that. And it's only the first build.
 
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its all relative whether to get upset or not, if you can always afford the latest and greatest, its not a big deal.. If you financially can only afford an upgrade every couple of years, than yes, I can see where some get upset if they upgraded their iOS to new version and are now stuck and unhappy.
I would normally agree, but the issue here is entirely due to software optimization. The lag in question is present on the 6s and 6s Plus as well. New hardware doesn't fix this issue, Apple simply needs to prioritize fixing the frame rate drops.
 

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I would normally agree, but the issue here is entirely due to software optimization. The lag in question is present on the 6s and 6s Plus as well. New hardware doesn't fix this issue, Apple simply needs to prioritize fixing the frame rate drops.

lets hope so ! not sure how soon they get hands on prototype models, but shouldn't have that been fixed out the gate?
 

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A settings bug on the iPod Touch 6 that has not been fixed in iOS 9.2,
Podcast name list in Manage Storage is mushed up with the size of each podcast.
(Don't have this problem on my iPads.)
 
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gordon1234

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Yes. Also new downloading indicator icons.

I would love to see someone try to download a ton of music for offline use (You can create a smart playlist in iTunes that includes ALL your music – see below). This is something that has, never, ever worked properly since Apple first introduced iTunes Match years ago. Downloading a few songs at a time or a short playlist usually works, but download hundreds or thousands of songs always fails horribly - half the songs get stuck attempting to download and never finish, songs download and later disappear from the device, you get frequent download error popups, etc. I've just given up and gone back to syncing via USB, even though I subscribe to iTunes Match. Every time Apple changes the Music app, I hope they'll work on this issue, but nothing ever happens. If some brave soul feels like trying to download their entire music library, that would be infinitely appreciated.

all_music_playlist.png
 

TL24

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Is 3D Touch still lagging at 30fps on the 6S Plus? I hate the fact that the 6S is so much smoother when you know damn well the A9 CPU, 2GB of LPDDR4 Ram and the PowerVR GT7600 should be able to handle the UI at a steady 60fps @ 1080p.

I seriously don't understand what Apple is doing, you can't advertise such a feature only to have it lag behind the smaller 6S.
 
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I would normally agree, but the issue here is entirely due to software optimization. The lag in question is present on the 6s and 6s Plus as well. New hardware doesn't fix this issue, Apple simply needs to prioritize fixing the frame rate drops.

People will complain no matter what. Would you rather have features and big bug fixes or fixing the 1 frame drop in a 1/10 of a second animation than should bother anyone THAT much unless you're OCD. Priorities

There's simply WAY too much OCD around here that it's become really annoying with every other post lag this or that.
 

CupertinoSlave

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its all relative whether to get upset or not, if you can always afford the latest and greatest, its not a big deal.. If you financially can only afford an upgrade every couple of years, than yes, I can see where some get upset if they upgraded their iOS to new version and are now stuck and unhappy.
How about those with the iPhone 6S+? Its the latest and greatest and still has more from drops than the iPhone 6?
 

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People will complain no matter what. Would you rather have features and big bug fixes or fixing the 1 frame drop in a 1/10 of a second animation than should bother anyone THAT much unless you're OCD. Priorities

There's simply WAY too much OCD around here that it's become really annoying with every other post lag this or that.

so now we have a iOS 9 lag thread in this forum that is 40+ pages long of OCD people? Thanks for calling us out.
 

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so now we have a iOS 9 lag thread in this forum that is 40+ pages long of OCD people? Thanks for calling us out.

Or people with nothing better to do frankly. And now I will go back to real life instead of hours upon hours discussing the milliseconds of lag in my iphone that seems to ruin some people's sad lives.
 

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lets hope so ! not sure how soon they get hands on prototype models, but shouldn't have that been fixed out the gate?

Really and truly, the lag should have been fixed by the public release of 9.0. There is no reason why fluidity took such a huge step backwards. Of course, 9.0 also brought with it improvements like a much more stable Safari, so it's not as if Apple was sitting on their hands and whistling throughout the summer. For whatever reason (many will endlessly speculate and pontificate), Apple chose to let fluidity sit on the back burner.

People will complain no matter what. Would you rather have features and big bug fixes or fixing the 1 frame drop in a 1/10 of a second animation than should bother anyone THAT much unless you're OCD. Priorities

There's simply WAY too much OCD around here that it's become really annoying with every other post lag this or that.

I mean, it's completely understandable to bring it up and discuss it. But I agree that it appears to be affecting some people to an extreme level.
 

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I mean, it's completely understandable to bring it up and discuss it. But I agree that it appears to be affecting some people to an extreme level.

There's frame drops and lag, but the extremes some users here take it to is simply baffling, as if it's ruining their lives and they have to spend hours on the internet finding videos to prove or disprove it. Nothing is every 100% perfect.

If truthfully a few milliseconds of lag or frame drops ruins someone's life as much as people make it sound, and spend their time on here, then they have much larger problems than anyone else here can help with.

The lag one experiences in a whole year is probably less time than posting their few posts complaining about it here
 

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There's frame drops and lag, but the extremes some users here take it to is simply baffling, as if it's ruining their lives and they have to spend hours on the internet finding videos to prove or disprove it. Nothing is every 100% perfect.

If truthfully a few milliseconds of lag or frame drops ruins someone's life as much as people make it sound, and spend their time on here, then they have much larger problems than anyone else here can help with.

The lag one experiences in a whole year is probably less time than posting their few posts complaining about it here
If you get a brand new car that has a scratch on it, that stands out to YOU, would you ignore it?
 
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People will complain no matter what. Would you rather have features and big bug fixes or fixing the 1 frame drop in a 1/10 of a second animation than should bother anyone THAT much unless you're OCD. Priorities

There's simply WAY too much OCD around here that it's become really annoying with every other post lag this or that.
I take it you don't have a 6s Plus. Learn what you're trying to talk about and watch this video in 60 FPS.

 

Tubamajuba

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If you get a brand new car and has a scratch on it, that stands out to YOU, would you ignore it?
You show the dealer before you drive off the lot, and they'll take care of it. You get a scratched iPhone out of the box, the Apple Store takes care of it. This isn't a cosmetic defect, this is a software issue without a quick fix. I've already said that the lag is puzzling, but there's no other option right now except to live with it or get a different phone.
 
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If you get a brand new car and has a scratch on it, that stands out to YOU, would you ignore it?

The level of obsession with "lag" and "stutter" exhibited here goes well beyond that. It would be more like getting a brand-new car and freaking out because the sound it makes when it accelerates isn't quite to your liking, or the texture of the temperature knob vs the texture of the fan control knob is just slightly different.
 
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